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It seems as though most on here like HostGator for their hosting but I can't stand cPanel. I will go with HostGator if it's clearly the best of the bunch but if there's something as good which doesn't use cPanel, I'd like to hear about it first. I really like Plesk as I use that with Precision Effect, but they can't compete with the deals that HostGator and others like them offer.

I really don't need a big package. Just something inexpensive for putting up a blog and doing affiliate business with that can grow in time.
 
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I have heard very good words about precision effect and you will be the first one to say HG is better than them.
HG is an overseller and PE is a premium host. So they will be much more costlier than the Hg but you will get for what you pay.
If you are looking for an overseller, you will be able to see much cheaper plans offering much more than HG.
 
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CrazyTech said:
Several of the big boys offer their own panels, you may want to look at:

http://www.jaguarhost.com/ (custom)
http://www.unitedhosting.com/ (Ensim)

There are others out there as well.

Let me ask you, do you really need the kind of space and bandwidth that HG offers?

Good question. I'm not sure if I do or not. Like I said, I am planning on starting up small affiliate sites and a blog.

I guess my questions are:
1. How much bandwidth and space do I need for such sites?
2. When would I want to use a premium host with a private server as opposed to a shared server like HostGator and vice-versa?
 
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Xymox said:
1. How much bandwidth and space do I need for such sites?
Start small, most decent hosts will let you upgrade your plan as your needs grow anyway. You could certainly start on the precision effect level 1 with 200mb diskspace ( e.g. approximately enough for 40 seperate wordpress installations according to my calculations )
One problem you may find with precision effect is that they only allow unlimited "domain pointers" - i'm not sure if they mean that each domain has it's own webroot, or if they are just basic parked domains ( all pointing to the same site ). I'm going to ask them.


Xymox said:
2. When would I want to use a premium host with a private server as opposed to a shared server like HostGator and vice-versa?
There are lots of reasons, here's a couple:
- When you have a resource intensive application that will likely use more cpu / memory than a shared host will let you use
- When you need to configure a webserver to your exact needs
 
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The average website - and I'd say this definitely can be extended to an affiliate type website - takes up roughly 50-100MB of space and 1-5GB of transfer. Most cases being at about 1-2 GB of transfer. In example, I have a 1600 member forum that just reached over the 5GB plateau for the first time last month.

I like to think of a premium host as mission critical. If every second of downtime costs you money, then you want a premium host. (Now, I don't mean every second of downtime annoys you or a complaint or two makes it to your inbox.) Obviously, a shared environment doesn't go down all the time otherwise the service would be useless, but in a shared environment you are sharing services with other users. These thousands of GBs hosts have put anywhere from 100+ people all thinking they have those 300GB of space (consider the size of the largest hd's that run 1TB) and 3000 GB of transfer (3000x100=300,000GB of transfer). Do you really think there's a profit to be made if you are using anywhere from 100k to 300k of transfer a month for a $595 profit (100x5.95/mo)? Even at $0.05/GB cost that comes to $15k/month in bandwidth costs for them.

They're hedging their bets that 1.) You'll never use that 300GB/3000GB (and you won't) and 2.) That even if you start to, CPU/RAM usage will cause you to be forced to upgrade to a server long before then.

There's a reason you see hosts selling dedicated servers for 10x the cost but at 1/2, 1/3, or less of the resources available. Overselling...which is what this process is called...is not necessarily a bad thing because it reduces costs on you in the end. However, it becomes a bad thing because when taken to the extreme it becomes highly misleading and ultimately it can be argued that they're marketing a lie.
 
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36 hours later, no response from Precision Effect, and their live chat hasn't been online any of the times I've checked.
Maybe they're only a monday-friday outfit. I'm a bit disappointed, they seemed to have a lot of good features for a good price.
 
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I believe PE uses directadmin now (a customized skin version), as they moved away from Plesk
 
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I suggest you use: ixwebhosting.com
They use their own panel for manage.
 
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yphanh2002 said:
I suggest you use: ixwebhosting.com
They use their own panel for manage.

There are thousand of companies use custom panels.
:)
 
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PE got back to me - their shared hosting packages are one domain only ( unlimited parked domains though), hosting for additional domains is $1.95 per month for each additional domain.

That could really push up the cost if you're thinking of creating multiple affiliate sites - though you could get around it by using a cms which supports multiple sites with one webroot e.g. drupal.
 
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I think that any web hosting company allow you to use your own panel on your shared account. ;)
BTW what panels are you interested in at all?
 
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you can choose from cpanel, plesk, ensim or helm
http://www.theplanet.com/promotions/

Xymox said:
It seems as though most on here like HostGator for their hosting but I can't stand cPanel. I will go with HostGator if it's clearly the best of the bunch but if there's something as good which doesn't use cPanel, I'd like to hear about it first. I really like Plesk as I use that with Precision Effect, but they can't compete with the deals that HostGator and others like them offer.

I really don't need a big package. Just something inexpensive for putting up a blog and doing affiliate business with that can grow in time.
 
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