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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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Why was this necessary? This thread has nothing to do with GoDaddy, I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to drag us into it.

Paul - for the record, the main reason why Epik got into the registrar business in 2011 is because of this exact event -- Godaddy being unreasonable:

https://www.epik.com/blog/bob-parsons-tear-down-your-privacy-wall.html

I have a positive sentiment towards the many lovely people who work at Godaddy.

I believe your policies for waiving 60-day transfer locks are anti-competitive. The comment specifically referred to that topic and I stand by it, and will double down on it.

The idea of [email protected] for reviewing a 60-day lock is a good one. However, if the answer is always no, then it is nonsense, and likely yet another anti-competitive tactic used by a de facto Monopolist.

You can rebut that Godaddy, as a policy-making entity, is methodically anti-competitive. I am confident that my facts would incontrovertibly prove otherwise.
 
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Why was this necessary? This thread has nothing to do with GoDaddy, I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to drag us into it.

This was such an immature comment by RM that I completely glanced over it and ignored it. He has a pattern of attacking and insulting companies he tries to compete with or that refuse to do business with him. It's come to the point I developed a blind spot for it.

I believe your policies for waiving 60-day transfer locks are anti-competitive. The comment specifically referred to that topic and I stand by it, and will double down on it.

@Rob Monster, stick to creating a competitive business. Don't start a pissing match. Leave religion, politics, and conspiracy theories at the door. That's for family dinners.

Let people decide what company they want to deal with without you trying to poison their minds.
 
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I care about this community. That is the real impetus of my posts. I came from very humble roots. I have been a first-hand witness to what a real insurrection looks like. An insurrection against a real oppressive power that silenced people and took their freedom of speech away. That's why the public discourse happening right now in the US seems so bewildering and petty. The people so inflamed with romanticizing about recreating the 1770's insurrection don't understand what real oppression looks like. But that is besides the point and not appropriate to discuss in this thread.

The statements I "deemed" as "offensive" where not "deemed" as such by me alone. They were called out by the online community in large numbers. They were indeed offensive. You can call someone a derogatory term or lie about them and then say it was your expression of free speech. But it cannot be denied it was offensive irrespective.



Free speech is a very broad term and means different things to different people. Some believe you have to exercise free speech that is balanced with ethics and morality. Others believe you can simply spout anything off the top of your head and it should be ok. But if you look at regimes that truly suppressed and punished free speech it was speech that criticized the powers in control at the time. This is not the atmosphere existing in the US or other Western countries. If someone criticizes what you say, they are not infringing on your free speech. They are exercising their free speech. If you are sued or criminally charged for libel, defamatory speech, slander, saying fire in theater, or bomb on a plane, inciting people to commit suicide or other acts of violence free speech is not being curtailed.

I agree there is real civil unrest being stoked right now. America was born out of a revolution, and the founders were careful to put as many barriers against a potential overreach by the federal government, which they deemed the biggest threat to individual liberty. Not going to rehash it endlessly, but the whole US Constitution is about limiting the power of the government. That is still a dominant thought on the minds of America's citizenry, and the reason for the 2nd Amendment, and why it is part of today's culture. The history of America might not be very long but is rich in lessons and worth a study.

What is offensive to you might not be offensive to someone else. People pay the price for speaking their minds and speaking out. The price is being judged by others and especially in the course of doing business it might be an economic loss. That is how it works in practice.
My point is that if you want to advocate for shaming someone, for example, and getting some of this community to join in, you are free to do so. But by doing so, I believe you are doing long term damage to society and the culture of free speech on this forum. Just because you drive something off from the public thread doesn't mean it just disappears. But the culture changes, and rather than being out in the open for all to be discussed and criticized, you create a culture where people are unwilling to talk openly. This is not a positive achievement, even if it brings temporary satisfaction.

Some who value individual freedom are no fans of where the modern left is pushing culture and ideas on free speech. Modern leftist ideology has captured at least the Democratic party, Mainstream Media, Big Tech, Academia and higher learning, Entertainment industry and Hollywood. Cancel culture and censorship are coming down on everyone who does not submit. Leftist organizations like Antifa and BLM and tolerated and encouraged and aided by lack of prosecution, immediate release, or fundraisers for bail.
And things are just starting:)

What are you other areas of activism?
 
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I was trying to put it mildly what our little cancel culture does on this thread and because I don't know Tom K. But please don't explain, that tune has been overplayed and I'm not a fan.

Tom runs a site called DNPlaybook.com. The entire site has 149 indexed pages according to Google:

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Of those 149 pages, a whopping 83 of them have some reference to Epik:

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You can infer from that what you like.
 
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Not going to rehash it endlessly, but the whole US Constitution is about limiting the power of the government.

Completely agree. However, the overwhelming addiction to and magnetism of power does not escape any person staring it in the face. No matter what their political position may be. Perhaps someone may be elected that has enough life experience and wisdom to have good intentions. But the pull of power and powerful lobbyists is extremely strong. The architects of the constitution had good intentions, after just escaping the oppression of a world power. They wanted their newly formed sovereignty to not come under another oppressive monarchy. From within or without. They had noble intent and created a document that has been respected for over 200 years and looked to as the guide to an ideal society.

Today, although those ideals may be elevated by political personalities with an agenda, this is only talk to attract people to their side. The burden is on each person to discern the genuineness and authenticity of each claim. The easy thing to do is to fall into a camp and let group mentality control our thinking. Because then we don't have to do our own thinking. Just follow the crowd.
 
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Tom runs a site called DNPlaybook.com. The entire site has 149 indexed pages according to Google:

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Of those 149 pages, a whopping 83 of them have some reference to Epik:

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You can infer from that what you like.

@Rob Monster, I doubt very much there are that many pages about Epik. Maybe 5 or 6. You have to keep in mind that G indexes tags, categories, comments and images. So, likely, the majority of the results are duplicates.
 
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One person's hate speech is another person's basedness.

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One person's hate speech is another person's basedness.

Basedness.com

Do you mean one-basedness, biasedness, baseness? What is your intention with this post? Can you expound. Personally, I don't like cryptic posts. I'm sure you had an idea in your mind. Looks like a promotion for a domain.
 
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Do you mean one-basedness, biasedness, baseness? What is your intention with this post? Can you expound. Personally, I don't like cryptic posts. I'm sure you had an idea in your mind. Looks like a promotion for a domain.
Sure.

To some truth is the only relevancy and there are no stones that will be left unturned on the grounds of them having statements or representations that some will find reprehensible.

An indifference to what others may think is based.

A true posturing of inquiry and exploration behooves one to be humble before history and the unknown. There is no room for emotional spoilage to get in the way of humility and parsing endless depths and prisms (subjects eg biology, Evolutionary Psychology) to view and understand.
 
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Sure.

To some truth is the only relevancy and there are no stones that will be left unturned on the grounds of them having statements or representations that some will find reprehensible.

An indifference to what others may think is based.

A true posturing of inquiry and exploration behooves one to be humble before history and the unknown. There is no room for emotional spoilage to get in the way of humility and parsing endless depths and prisms (subjects eg biology, Evolutionary Psychology) to view and understand.
As far as I understand the human condition,

Many live with a subconscious utopian inclination and ideal (building heaven on earth, one big human family etc). Their ignorance of the battle of group selection, ethnic cleansing and genocide in 2021 is too hot to handle and a far cry from their tribeless state of mind seeking the brotherhood of humankind.
 
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To some truth is the only relevancy and there are no stones that will be left unturned on the grounds of them having statements or representations that some will find reprehensible.

All I can say that is coherent (I hope) is that TRUTH is not something we can attain completely. It is something we should constantly strive for. It is a never ending process. As we can move closer to truth, so we can also move further away from it. Having the right heart, an open mind, and willingness to work hard for it goes a long way. Dig for the truth as for hidden treasures, as for silver. Why not as for gold? Because you have to dig deeper to find silver. Don't be satisfied with what you know today. ;)
 
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All I can say that is coherent (I hope) is that TRUTH is not something we can attain completely. It is something we should constantly strive for. It is a never ending process. As we can move closer to truth, so we can also move further away from it. Having the right heart, an open minded, and willingness to work hard for it goes a long way. Dig for the truth as for hidden treasures, as for silver. Why not as for gold? Because you have to dig deeper to find silver. Don't be satisfied with what you know today. ;)
Sure but so few are free agents, or I could say, assume their free agency - to engage on that discovery process.

It is the relationship of the individual to the collective. A prosocial species, like bees, humans are often the byproduct of synthesis and exposure to dogmas and ideologies of their environment.

To be high in disagreeableness, curiosity, precociousness to seek out different information also requires life circumstances to be able to do so. Fortunately, the internet is that space to democratize and make everything accessible to all.

Therefore, my take on hate speech is that no person should have fear for their safety by way of threats - explicit/ implied. And that is pretty much it.
 
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Those who engage in hateful and deceptive speech and those who support them basically want to suppress other peopleโ€™s opinions and points of view through intimidation, personal attacks, and foul language so that they can force the kind of manufactured version of the truth on to others that serves their own misguided interests and agendas.

The last thing that people who hate want is for the real truth to come out. If they donโ€™t like the message about the truth they simply create the kind of profile for the messenger that is meant to justify all their attacks on him or her to their own followers.

IMO
 
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Sure but so few are free agents, or I could say, assume their free agency - to engage on that discovery process.

It is the relationship of the individual to the collective. A prosocial species, like bees, humans are often the byproduct of synthesis and exposure to dogmas and ideologies of their environment.

What you write here is very true. But you do not have to be a victim of your environment if you don't want to. I believe that if you can unlock yourself from the collective, which is a challenge, I agree, you will experience true freedom. Your thinking will truly become yours. You will not be swept away like the waves of the sea by the "saveur de jour".

Therefore, my take on hate speech is that no person should have fear for their safety by way of threats - explicit/ implied. And that is pretty much it.

I agree here too. But why does "hate speech" come across with such retaliatory backlash? Is it because it incites strong emotions? Likely. We need to try to understand each other and communicate in a way to reach each other. "Hate speech" is labeled as such because it doesn't serve any purpose other than to incite hate. Then you get into a lot of complicated mess. But violence and threats are never the answer. Unfortunately you will find crazies out there.
 
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Although I respect everyone's right to express their opinions and points view, but sometimes I wonder if we can have a true intellectual debate between those who have ascended to a higher state of mind and freed themselves of the collective thinking that is injected into everyone's mind from childhood and those who are still enslaved to their political, religious, and racial loyalties and affiliations and that all the arguments that they set forward are only to protect the interest of their masters regardless of what is right or wrong for the future of Humanity and our Home Planet.

These people who seem to have no mind of their own and only seem to be able to repeat what someone else has said in a book or meme hide behind the veneer of civility only as long as things are going their way, but ultimately resort to intimidation and violence once their interests and agendas are threatened by a formidable opponent that they cannot control or bend to their will.

We are seeing this happening all over the World right now as activists and journalists are being killed by the status quo collectives.

IMO
 
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This thread has become absolutely pointless.
 
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Hi

you guys have went.... where not many other NP members have went before
ya'll went aqua boogie deep

but so few are free agents,

yes, this is very evident in many discussion threads

to engage on that discovery process.
so many fear to go here. some don't want to know the truth

It is the relationship of the individual to the collective.
yes... here at NP, it's all about the cliques` and likes
the associations and the loyalties.

To be high in disagreeableness, curiosity, precociousness to seek out different information also requires life circumstances to be able to do so
agree, one had to be raised that way, to be inquisitive, to question the questionable, regardless to status, position, etc.

if you can unlock yourself from the collective, which is a challenge, I agree, you will experience true freedom.

for sure, as an independent thinker, your opinions may have more weight than the consensus of agreeables' and flagwavers'.

Your thinking will truly become yours. You will not be swept away like the waves of the sea by the "saveur de jour".

once the rose colored glasses are removed, clarity will be seen

But why does "hate speech" come across with such retaliatory backlash? Is it because it incites strong emotions?

Hi

all the hate speakers weren't born that way
so, they had to learn, to hate
be trained, to discriminate.

imo...
 
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This thread has become absolutely pointless.

It's not completely pointless if it helps to put an end to all the hate, animosities, intimidations, and deceptive tactics that are going on around us.

If left unchecked the status quo and all its elements are going to take us on the verge of another World War.

IMO
 
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