What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[TCK]

Like it or not, Rob Monster is a separate person from me. I don't work for him. And his worldview has little in common with mine.

Yeah. Whatever, man. Who cares. Don’t respond to my posts anymore. Time to move on.

 

[NameLlama]

Again and again, you pretend that the only farther step you could take would be murdering religious people. But that's ridiculous. Society could implement many much milder repressions, which would curtail religion. For example: Why should society permit people who are mentally ill, who are suffering from a dangerous infectious disease, to be teachers or professors? The risk of contamination in the classroom is unacceptable.

Society could use a questionnaire to exclude religious people from teaching biology or history. Why not? We already exclude people who are mentally ill or infectious from the classroom, if they pose a danger. And you do believe that religion poses a danger to society, do you not? In that case, why not apply the normal standard for dealing with dangerous disease, mental illness, etc.?

Most people seem capable of being a teacher and keeping their religiious views out of it, so there would just be a rule for that

Did anyone even say that religious people are ACtUALLy menttally ill
It's a point to say why should I treat your belief in those invisible beings as normal, if it would otherwise appear you are mentally ill
It's not such a debilitating problem of hteir mind that they can't be a teacher who keeps it separate, unless they are a really weird obsessive person

'infectious disease' doesn't mean easily contagious

 

[NameLlama]

No, that isn't your position. You didn't say that religion was simply wrong. You called all religion "Poison". And that is why I cornered you about the logical conclusion of your opinion – which should be concentration camps or forced re-education or laws making poisonous ideas illegal. Rationally, that is the next step. If you're not prepared to take it, then you don't have the courage of your convictions.

Again and again, you pretend that the only farther step you could take would be murdering religious people. But that's ridiculous. Society could implement many much milder repressions, which would curtail religion. For example: Why should society permit people who are mentally ill, who are suffering from a dangerous infectious disease, to be teachers or professors? The risk of contamination in the classroom is unacceptable.

Society could use a questionnaire to exclude religious people from teaching biology or history. Why not? We already exclude people who are mentally ill or infectious from the classroom, if they pose a danger. And you do believe that religion poses a danger to society, do you not? In that case, why not apply the normal standard for dealing with dangerous disease, mental illness, etc.?

First the so-called logical conclusion is 'concentration camps' or 'forced re-educaiton' or making religion illegal, because by the word poison it was inferred that this is an extremely dangerous thing that will destroy society if you don't take these actions

Then later, it can be 'milder' to just 'curtail' religion. Restricting religious people from teaching

These are the only ways to respond to religion apparently

Just like the only way to respond to a pseudoscience that teaches eugenics as the only way to a good human race..is to silence it, force re-education, or make it illegal to believe, or make camps, or ask all teachers if they believe in these bad eugenics ideas and block them all from being teachers

 

[NameLlama]

You can have a religion that only says a few things, things that people would agree are fine, like always try to do good to other people, and that's it
That religion isn't poison
'Religion' is poison in the sense that religions often have no good basis for their claims.... and yet they want to go around telling other people what is true.... and want to tell other people they are being good or bad without any argument but my god and his book says so. So it makes divisions in society based on nothing but old books and gods. If I think the divisions or potential for division by faith and religion is bad enough, I can call it poison.... As I can call anyone who goes around with bullshit conspiracy theories and is growing their following a poison to society.... Because their theories could lead to dangerous divisiveness

 

[NameLlama]

But the LOGICUL CONCLOOSSION is that you want to interrogate all teachers to test for their extreme conspiracy theory views, or put them in concentration camps or whatever shit

 

[frank-germany]

Look at what extreme liberalism and extreme feminism has done to women.

I'm sure they don't mean
You

 

[frank-germany]

My continuing bet is that conventional domains can be made resilient against censorship, thereby avoiding the need for trustless alternatives. That is the essence of Epik's resilient domain initiative.

promoting Epik in this thread???????

 

[frank-germany]

.. For example, in case not aware, I was raised in a secular household. I came to Christ as an adult based on a diligent, unbiased and objective search for truth...

sometimes you hit
sometime you miss

nothing to blame you for

I found it all to be nonsense
so what

but the problem starts when you try to promote that BS

 

[Rob Monster]

I'm sure they don't mean
You

Google the term about babies as parasites. I think you will be amazed by the depravity of the active campaign to convince women that unborn babies are parasites. It is a classic strategy to re-frame the conversation. After all, people take antibiotics for infections. And indeed, there are people who are dumb enough to believe and promote this reframing of the conversation about abortion is not only acceptable but desirable. You are old enough to see how far we have come in 50 years. Welcome to crazytown.

 

[Truespin Domains]

Did anyone even say that religious people are ACtUALLy menttally ill

It matters not to @Slanted

He'll debate it anyway.

 

[frank-germany]

The irony of a few articulate atheists debating religion is pretty thick. For the casual observers trying to make sense of this intellectual "rap battle", just remember to not throw out the baby with bathwater!

Show attachment 119953

thats a good one


but actually not quite supporting your position...

in fact ...

 

[frank-germany]

Anyone who knows Joseph knows that his pen is mighty, and that he has zero tolerance for fools. Best not to wind him up.

oops
who would have thought...
we have something in common ...

 

[Rob Monster]

thats a good one


but actually not quite supporting your position...

in fact ...

You might have to look a bit deeper. It does.

It would all be comically funny, if the matter was not so serious, as nobody is promised tomorrow.

However, for each his own -- liberty and free will within the bounds of the law.

Anyway, welcome back to thread. Nobody actually seems to leave it. They try.

 

[MapleDots]

oops
who would have thought...
we have something in common ...

HeHe

Man I wish I could double like this post

 

[frank-germany]

You might have to look a bit deeper. It does.

It would all be comically funny, if the matter was not so serious, as nobody is promised tomorrow.

However, for each his own -- liberty and free will within the bounds of the law.

Anyway, welcome back to thread. Nobody actually seems to leave it. They try.

so you don't see the boat is sinking as well?
so why then should there be people outside of the boat?

 

[frank-germany]

I hope the folks in the US had a good Memorial Day.

Personally, I have never served in the military nor has my wife, or any of our 3 sons or 2 daughters. I am a Dutch-American -- the oldest child and oldest grandchild on both sides of the family. As I was born in the US to Dutch parents, I have both a Dutch passport and a US passport. As for core values, while there are Dutch traditions that I greatly appreciate, in terms of national identity, my values are decidedly American.

This short Ronald Reagan speech is a reminder of what it recently meant to be a patriotic American.

However, in the bigger picture, I don't actually believe these are American values per se. I think they are sovereign rights.

Although there are rumors of wars currently, I believe nobody should feel compelled to go to war to kill someone else's father or mother. I hope and pray that war can be avoided and that cooler heads prevail.

In the meantime, I believe our job as Netizens of the World, is to promote communication, cross-cultural understanding, empathy, prosperity and philanthropy. I think we can do all of this better.

As for the folks who want to use this fascinating NamePros thread to engage in intellectual jousting and one-upmanship, I think it is a poor use of their obvious intellect.

At the end of the day, I believe the real battle is not going to be in threads like this one. The real battle is enabling all of humanity the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

what was the "issue of the whole struggle"
he had to die for?


wars are not for the people but for the
EGOs of the leaders of the nations

if you believe in a loving god
who made all humans equally
of his image

how can you think of a justified war?

its all human sick mind made BS

religion
same
as war "issues"

nobody wants to die
for whatever reason
in a war

they were all forced
by law
and society

same is true for their "enemies"

 

[frank-germany]

Google the term about babies as parasites. I think you will be amazed by the depravity of the active campaign to convince women that unborn babies are parasites. It is a classic strategy to re-frame the conversation. After all, people take antibiotics for infections. And indeed, there are people who are dumb enough to believe and promote this reframing of the conversation about abortion is not only acceptable but desirable. You are old enough to see how far we have come in 50 years. Welcome to crazytown.

as we all know there are a lot of sick minded people around

I see no reason to give them a forum
like you do

 

[frank-germany]

I hope the folks in the US had a good Memorial Day.

Personally, I have never served in the military nor has my wife, or any of our 3 sons or 2 daughters. I am a Dutch-American -- the oldest child and oldest grandchild on both sides of the family. As I was born in the US to Dutch parents, I have both a Dutch passport and a US passport. As for core values, while there are Dutch traditions that I greatly appreciate, in terms of national identity, my values are decidedly American.

This short Ronald Reagan speech is a reminder of what it recently meant to be a patriotic American.

However, in the bigger picture, I don't actually believe these are American values per se. I think they are sovereign rights.

Although there are rumors of wars currently, I believe nobody should feel compelled to go to war to kill someone else's father or mother. I hope and pray that war can be avoided and that cooler heads prevail.

In the meantime, I believe our job as Netizens of the World, is to promote communication, cross-cultural understanding, empathy, prosperity and philanthropy. I think we can do all of this better.

As for the folks who want to use this fascinating NamePros thread to engage in intellectual jousting and one-upmanship, I think it is a poor use of their obvious intellect.

At the end of the day, I believe the real battle is not going to be in threads like this one. The real battle is enabling all of humanity the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

you are utilizing the speech of a former US president

who is utilizing the idealism of a young American man
who was killed in a superfluous war
being killed as a victim of a stupid ego manic king ( the German king )
who started this war out of EGO issues

to promote your stuff
your position
your being
and your company epik

 

[Slanted]

Yeah. Whatever, man. Who cares. Don’t respond to my posts anymore. Time to move on.

Practice what you preach.

 

[mr-x]

...

However, in the bigger picture, I don't actually believe these are American values per se. I think they are sovereign rights.

Pure value statements; Nature's God, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights.

The difference between the American revolution and the disaster of the "enlightened" French revolution. IMO.

Bill of Rights:
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
We hold this right