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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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Pretty sure this whole thread was about the morality of it, and people disagreed
Then here at the end, you say "Duh it was morally fine" as if you're the arbiter of all things
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A sign of the times. When someone on the right of politics disagrees with someone on the left, the left calls it "immoral" and further "scandelous."

That doesn't make it true or correct.
 
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A sign of the times. When someone on the right of politics disagrees with someone on the left, the left calls it "immoral" and further "scandelous."

That doesn't make it true or correct.
I don't rmember this thread being starte because of a left-right political disagreement
 
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I don't rmember this thread being starte because of a left-right political disagreement
Your right, this thread was started by unfair and libelous accusations against a person who has opinions different than others. Since then, the thread has morphed into displaying political differences that those on the left are unjustly calling a scandal.
 
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Your right, this thread was started by unfair and libelous accusations against a person who has opinions different than others. Since then, the thread has morphed into displaying political differences that those on the left are unjustly calling a scandal.

Are you interviewing for a job or something?

Elsewhere I posted -
Maybe you should go run some more interference in some threads, cough cough.

And here you go again.

So what is the deal exactly?

People noticed in the Escrow thread, where people were asking Rob direct questions about it, you were the one responding. I was wondering if you were an Epik employee or Spokesperson, it's how you came across.

Or in this thread you went on and on about the word "hoax" just like you're going on and on again about the word "scandal".

Or sometimes when Rob makes a post, you're literally the only one liking the post.

Then Rob mentioned earlier, you guys had a phone call before all of this.

So, are you an Epik Brand Ambassador or just hoping to get hired?

I will agree here. There was an outrage. And to some, the action of challenging a narrative is scandalous. I stand firmly by the notion that humanity has been tremendously deceived, and that free speech is the only true antidote to the propaganda that has enabled it, and now wants to sear minds once and for all.

It was never about the right to free speech. Again, something that was gone over to death. It was about what was said, passed on etc. That's it.

Funny, it reminds me again of Internet.Domains, pretending to be a free speech warrior, when somebody pointed out he was the one who started the Retarded.com thread about a GoDaddy auction, he didn't want that to happen. Maybe his issues are with GoDaddy and not really a believer in free speech?
 
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A sign of the times.

Yes, indeed: Partisans are so eager to castigate people they regard as their opponents that they will distort and re-define even basic English words in order to willfully misread what others have said.

This was silly from the beginning and should have been dropped right away. However, since you're pressing the issue, post after post, I will try once more to educate you on the meaning of this word "scandal".

Here are examples:
  • Years ago, Barak Obama caused a scandal by wearing a brown suit.
  • At the premier of George Bernard Shaw's play "Pygmalion", hearing the word "bloody" spoken on stage for the first time was a London scandal in 1914.
  • In hidebound families, interracial marriage of a son or daughter can be a scandal.
  • Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" caused a scandal โ€“ indeed a riot โ€“ when it premiered in 1913.
Using the word "scandal" as I have done does not imply that it is immoral / illegal to (A) wear a brown suit; (B) say "bloody" in a play; (C) marry someone of another ethnicity; (D) listen to Stravinsky.

"Scandal" doesn't imply that these things are wrong โ€“ nor even that I think they're wrong. (Clearly I think they're all fine.) "Scandal" only means that some group of people saw something as shocking or improper.

End of story.
 
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adjective: scandalous
causing general public outrage by a perceived offense against morality or law.
 
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Are you interviewing for a job or something?
No, not interviewing for a job. If I agreed with some of your views it would be no different.

Oh, regarding the R word. I find it to be an issue of respect vs. free speech. There is a difference, for clarity.
 
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No, not interviewing for a job. If I agreed with some of your views it would be no different.

Oh, regarding the R word. I find it to be an issue of respect vs. free speech. There is a difference, for clarity.

Actually, there isn't a difference. It seemed like that word was a more personal issue for you. You're either down with it or not. Should be across the board.

There is no need to elaborate as I feel I was precise. If you wish to counter, that is your perogative.

If somebody just asked you for details and you reply without actually giving details, that's not precise. That's the opposite of precise and dodging.
 
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Actually, there isn't a difference. It seemed like that word was a more personal issue for you. You're either down with it or not. Should be across the board.



If somebody just asked you for details and you reply without actually giving details, that's not precise. That's the opposite of precise and dodging.
Are you offering me a job JB?......(y):xf.grin:
 
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This thread was started with libel, but I can't tell you why it's libel
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If really is libelous, then people should be willing to retract what they said
So go ahead and say which part is libelous so people can apologize...
 
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This thread was started with libel, but I can't tell you why it's libel
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If really is libelous, then people should be willing to retract what they said
So go ahead and say which part is libelous so people can apologize...
If you don't see it there is nothing I can do or say that will change that. What I will say is:

โ€œdo unto others as you would have them do unto youโ€
 
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So you're making claims without evidence
Sounds familiar
 
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So you're making claims without evidence
Sounds familiar
The evidence is all there. Pages of it. Your denial of the evidence is not my concern.

Edit: I'll bite. Here is an excerpt from the original blog post that started the call for exile:

"The racial hate that is flowing through using the assets of Rob Monster will eternally hurt more than any amount of stolen money will ever hurt."

This statement is libelous by the accusation of racism and in conjunction with trying to cause financial harm.

Your right when you say there are people who should retract their statements.
 
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but it's not an accusation of racism?
A few people probably didn't like that epik reached out to gab, where "racial hate" flows freely
Some people think that was not a problem
Some people noticed the shooting video that was linked publicly was through epik's services- the link said "anonymize.com"
some people don't care
Some people saw that "@EPIK" posted the manifesto to gab and they advertised some weird file thing
Some people don't care
Oh and bitmitigate reached out to daily stormer to get noticed

Isn't it just that guy's opinion that "racial hate flowing through" them is a problem... Even if you think that is exaggerated or whatever
 
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A few years ago I used to listen to Alex Jones radio show, I found it interesting, sometimes comical, other times true. I think it was more of an misunderstanding as to why Alex got banned from YouTube IMO

Although I donโ€™t agree with sites like GAB, I do understand their reasoning for their existence and donโ€™t oppose their mere existence, just some of the bad apples that go over the top.

Racism is alive and well, it never went anywhere, the tones are different today, some relations are better why other relations are worse.

We all have our beliefs, things we like, things we donโ€™t like. That is just human nature. We have ways of trying to convince others that our beliefs are right, again, purely human nature.

Free speech is a form of transparency of what our beliefs are and why we feel strongly about our beliefs. It is a Freedom in the US that must remain in its natural statue despite forms of hate speech that cause separation and sometimes lead to actual violence. Free speech is part of the foundation of America.

As is freedom of religion

I donโ€™t know Rob Monster and have never registered a name at Epic.

But I do see that Rob Monster does stand up for what he believes in and defends his beliefs with much transparency, which is a good thing IMO, it shows honesty without sugar coating beliefs to appease others who disagree with the beliefs. I can respect that, I can respect that far better than a person who sways their beliefs to appease others.

We all are right, wrong and indifferent.

Only God is perfect

Me, non denominational Christian

White male, happily married to a black female.

Like to smoke pot

Use smokeless tobacco daily

So see, a lot of shit I do and who I am many many many people just here at NamePros alone probably have negative opinions about the above, which is to be expected, that is human nature.
 
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A few years ago I used to listen to Alex Jones radio show, I found it interesting, sometimes comical, other times true. I think it was more of an misunderstanding as to why Alex got banned from YouTube IMO

Although I donโ€™t agree with sites like GAB, I do understand their reasoning for their existence and donโ€™t oppose their mere existence, just some of the bad apples that go over the top.

Racism is alive and well, it never went anywhere, the tones are different today, some relations are better why other relations are worse.

We all have our beliefs, things we like, things we donโ€™t like. That is just human nature. We have ways of trying to convince others that our beliefs are right, again, purely human nature.

Free speech is a form of transparency of what our beliefs are and why we feel strongly about our beliefs. It is a Freedom in the US that must remain in its natural statue despite forms of hate speech that cause separation and sometimes lead to actual violence. Free speech is part of the foundation of America.

As is freedom of religion

I donโ€™t know Rob Monster and have never registered a name at Epic.

But I do see that Rob Monster does stand up for what he believes in and defends his beliefs with much transparency, which is a good thing IMO, it shows honesty without sugar coating beliefs to appease others who disagree with the beliefs. I can respect that, I can respect that far better than a person who sways their beliefs to appease others.

We all are right, wrong and indifferent.

Only God is perfect

Me, non denominational Christian

White male, happily married to a black female.

Like to smoke pot

Use smokeless tobacco daily

So see, a lot of sh*t I do and who I am many many many people just here at NamePros alone probably have negative opinions about the above, which is to be expected, that is human nature.

That is a great comment. Thank you for that.

From your profile, I believe you are 56 years old -- as such you are older than most here, and apparently wiser too. Personally I don't smoke, and rarely drink but judge nobody. I do know for sure that Jesus drank wine and that there will be wine in eternity, both at the wedding supper and likely long after.

As for this thread, I experienced something remarkable today. I spoke to the son of one of the only living survivors of Operation Dominic and Operation Fish Bowl. The naval personnel that were stationed at Johnson Island have since all died, but, miraculously, not this guy. And his son is a NP member! Wow.

The Internet is here for a reason. It is exposing thousands of years of secrets as vast libraries of private knowledge are being opened to the public. People around the world are poring over them and connecting dots in the search for incontrovertible truth. This is setting people free in vast numbers. See Daniel 12:4.

Satan has a little time left to deceive as many people as possible before the great hour of temptation, which I do believe is absolutely at the door. The stage is set which is why there has been a surge of gender confusion, pornography, broken families, addiction, persecution, ridicule and now censorship.

It is absolutely imperative that folks search for truth. It is not a luxury even though people treat it as such. It is a necessity. Those who have not yet contemplated eternity are ignorantly deluding their mortal selves. If the censors and book-burners have it their way you will have missed your window.

As for whether folks use Epik for their domains and hosting, I hope they do. I imagine there are people who won't eat at Chick-Fil-A because a Christian owns it. This seems irrational to me but so be it. If folks condemn me for enabling the search for truth, so be it, just remember, I am looking out for your soul.
 
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We all are right, wrong and indifferent.

Another view of "We all are right, wrong":

We all are right, based on what we know and think we know.
But we all could be wrong, based on what we think we know and don't know.

Edward de Bono discusses something along those lines in his book I Am Right You Are Wrong
 
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Another view of "We all are right, wrong":

We all are right, based on what we know and think we know.
But we all could be wrong, based on what we think we know and don't know.

Edward de Bono discusses something along those lines in his book I Am Right You Are Wrong

The Internet lets you share your truth and put it alongside the truth of others. I am all for that. Do you advocate that others should not have the opportunity to present their truth?

As for Edward de Bono, it is funny that you mention him. He is a Rhodes Scholar. I was recently studying the legacy of Cecil Rhodes. Cecil left 7 wills, 5 of which included his Confession of Faith. Here is a copy:

https://mikemcclaughry.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/rhodes-confession-of-faith.pdf

As you can see, Cecil was inspired by the Jesuits and the Freemasons. He set about to build his own Secret Society, aligned with the British Empire.

I offer this not by way of judgment as to whether de Bono is a force for good, but as context for who sponsored him to get to where he is, and what their objectives were. Perhaps of interest.
 
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