What's going on with Epik and Rob Monster?

[MapleDots]

I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

 

[.X.]

That is a great comment. Thank you for that.

From your profile, I believe you are 56 years old -- as such you are older than most here, and apparently wiser too. Personally I don't smoke, and rarely drink but judge nobody. I do know for sure that Jesus drank wine and that there will be wine in eternity, both at the wedding supper and likely long after.

As for this thread, I experienced something remarkable today. I spoke to the son of one of the only living survivors of Operation Dominic and Operation Fish Bowl. The naval personnel that were stationed at Johnson Island have since all died, but, miraculously, not this guy. And his son is a NP member! Wow.

The Internet is here for a reason. It is exposing thousands of years of secrets as vast libraries of private knowledge are being opened to the public. People around the world are poring over them and connecting dots in the search for incontrovertible truth. This is setting people free in vast numbers. See Daniel 12:4.

Satan has a little time left to deceive as many people as possible before the great hour of temptation, which I do believe is absolutely at the door. The stage is set which is why there has been a surge of gender confusion, pornography, broken families, addiction, persecution, ridicule and now censorship.

It is absolutely imperative that folks search for truth. It is not a luxury even though people treat it as such. It is a necessity. Those who have not yet contemplated eternity are ignorantly deluding their mortal selves. If the censors and book-burners have it their way you will have missed your window.

As for whether folks use Epik for their domains and hosting, I hope they do. I imagine there are people who won't eat at Chick-Fil-A because a Christian owns it. This seems irrational to me but so be it. If folks condemn me for enabling the search for truth, so be it, just remember, I am looking out for your soul.

Quote]The Internet is here for a reason. It is exposing thousands of years of secrets as vast libraries of private knowledge are being opened to the public. People around the world are poring over them and connecting dots in the search for incontrovertible truth. This is setting people free in vast numbers. See Daniel 12:4.]Quote

Agree 110%, The internet has and does bring so much insight and truth of secrets we had no idea of. I believe these are blessings of guidance for Christians for both knowledge and protection against satans deception and false prophets IMO.

You are right IMO, Satan knows he is on very borrowed time, We are very close to the return of Jesus Christ IMO

 

[TCK]

I think we need to acknowledge that there is a difference between free speech and truth and facts. That free speech is not automatically a virtue and free speech can certainly be used for evil means. Free speech is only a virtue when it has truth and facts as its backers.

There can only be one truth and one set of facts.

 

[Rob Monster]

I think we need to acknowledge that there is a difference between free speech and truth and facts. That free speech is not automatically a virtue and free speech can certainly be used for evil means. Free speech is only a virtue when it has truth and facts as its backers.

There is only one truth and one set of facts.

We can agree there. Truth IS absolute. Our awareness and understanding is dynamic.

Here is a good example of people with different views able to have a sensible conversation about why the world is the way that is without having to make absolute statements about thinks that they don't know for sure, while at the same time contemplating that there is more than you have been told.

Enjoy:

I don't follow his channel but he has 21 million followers and kids like him.

 

[TCK]

I don't follow his channel but he has 21 million followers and kids like him.

If you don't follow his channel, why do you repost the video? Are you 100% in agreement with him? If not, why do you repost his video?

 

[TCK]

We can agree there. Truth IS absolute. Our awareness and understanding is dynamic.

Here is a good example of people with different views able to have a sensible conversation about why the world is the way that is without having to make absolute statements about thinks that they don't know for sure, while at the same time contemplating that there is more than you have been told.

Additionally, if you cannot make absolute statements about something then you don't have enough facts and information and therefore do not have the truth. Taking a stance on inconclusive opinions can be and is dangerous.

When you have people making uncertain and indefinite statements on events and known facts then you get an infinite number of opinions and none will be the truth. The end result is utter confusion. This is why there is no end to conspiracy theories. And conspiracy theories will always stay as theories and never as truth.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Taking a stance on inconclusive opinions can be and is dangerous.

No, taking a stance on opinions, which can be argued inconclusive or not, is not dangerous. What is dangerous is attacking or harming those with opinions.

 

[TCK]

No, taking a stance on opinions, which can be argued inconclusive or not, is not dangerous. What is dangerous is attacking or harming those with opinions.

Forming strong opinions without having all the facts is dangerous any day. Sorry. You are simply wrong. Attacking those opinions with truth and facts is the right thing to do. Unless you want to live in a made-up world. That's your right too.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Forming strong opinions without having all the facts is dangerous any day.

You seem to have a strong opinion. Is it dangerous?

 

[TCK]

You seem to have a strong opinion. Is it dangerous?

Which opinion are you referring to?

 

[Internet.Domains]

Which opinion are you referring to?

You said, "Additionally, if you cannot make absolute statements about something then you don't have enough facts and information and therefore do not have the truth. Taking a stance on inconclusive opinions can be and is dangerous."

Clearly that is your opinion. It's also fair for everyone to form opinions based on the information they choose. What I disagree with is "opinions can be and is dangerous" as you stated.

My question is: Is your opinion dangerous? Or, are only those opinions you disagree with dangerous?

 

[TCK]

You said, "Additionally, if you cannot make absolute statements about something then you don't have enough facts and information and therefore do not have the truth. Taking a stance on inconclusive opinions can be and is dangerous."

Clearly that is your opinion. It's also fair for everyone to form opinions based on the information they choose. What I disagree with is "opinions can be and is dangerous" as you stated.

My question is: Is your opinion dangerous? Or, are only those opinions you disagree with dangerous?

So you believe that if you don't have all the facts, and yet form an opinion, there is no problem with that?

 

[Rob Monster]

If you don't follow his channel, why do you repost the video? Are you 100% in agreement with him? If not, why do you repost his video?

I happened to come across it and think it aligned with your sentiment. It is a conversation where the statements are not absolute but there is context. The guy being interviewed is tatted and makes reference to DMT, neither of which are for me, but he gives himself license to ask questions and seek answers.

Also, I have heard kids mention him so I thought it was interesting. While he is not PewDiePie, the fact that there are a growing number of youth that are openly considering whether or not to believe propaganda is a massive shift from even just 10 years ago.

As for absolute statements, I do absolutely believe that NASA has never been to the moon. I also know for sure that the Bible describes a fixed, non-moving earth. There is an abundance of evidence that shows that this is indeed true even though it conflicts terribly with indoctrination.

I would ask you if you were a Jesuit, but there is no point in asking that since, if you are, the Jesuit oath would make that a pretty pointless exercise:

http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html

The Jesuits have been primary agents for more than 400 years in the exercise to convince humanity that the earth is an insignificant speck in a vast and expanding universe hurdling through space at 66,600 miles per hour with the the earth is tilted at 66.6% (90 - 23.4 = 66.6).

 

[Internet.Domains]

So you believe that if you don't have all the facts, and yet form an opinion, there is no problem with that?

No, I feel it is within everyone's right to form an opinion. Further, when those opinions are attacked with intentional harm that is what is dangerous. The opinion is not dangerous, although the reaction to the opinion can be dangerous.

 

[TCK]

As for absolute statements, I do absolutely believe that NASA has never been to the moon. I also know for sure that the Bible describes a fixed, non-moving earth. There is an abundance of evidence that shows that this is indeed true even though it conflicts terribly with indoctrination.

Well, then you need to back this up with facts. Not videos of other deniers raising questions. But hard facts. Facts are facts and truth is the truth. There are no two ways about it.

 

[NameLlama]

Example:'It is my opinion that most vaccines are unnecessary and are foisted on us by people with evil agendas' ( so I will not vaccinate my children ) ( and I may try to convince other people to believe this BS. then they will not vaccinate their children )

Not dangerous? OK

 

[TCK]

No, I feel it is within everyone's right to form an opinion. Further, when those opinions are attacked with intentional harm that is what is dangerous. The opinion is not dangerous, although the reaction to the opinion can be dangerous.

You can have your opinions. Everyone has that right. But if you publish those opinions and promote them as an alternative to the known facts, then you better have a sold backing. And, darn right, it is dangerous if the Internet permeates with wrong information that is passed on as facts.

 

[Rob Monster]

Well, then you need to back this up with facts. Not videos of other deniers raising questions. But hard facts. Facts are facts and truth is the truth. There are no two ways about it.

Aha, you think you control the narrative but you are just a pawn on the chessboard. I will take the opportunity to REPEAT the video that you wanted to move off this page.

Also, congratulations for helping to make this thread the #1 Lights-out most popular thread on all of NamePros for the MONTH:

Well done!

 

[Internet.Domains]

Well, then you need to back this up with facts. Not videos of other deniers raising questions. But hard facts. Facts are facts and truth is the truth. There are no two ways about it.

What you accept as truth is different than what others accept as truth. We are all free to form an opinion. It is dangerous to attack those with different opinions.

If I disagree with your opinions, does that make you dangerous?

What you are saying is far from being tolerant when the roles are reversed.

 

[TCK]

Aha, you think you control the narrative but you are just a pawn on the chessboard. I will take the opportunity to REPEAT the video that you wanted to move off this page.

Also, congratulations for helping to make this thread the #1 Lights-out most popular thread on all of NamePros for the MONTH:

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Well done!

You're welcome. I don't want your post or videos removed. Just want you to back up your claims with actual facts.

 

[TCK]

What you accept as truth is different than what others accept as truth. We are all free to form an opinion. It is dangerous to attack those with different opinions.

If I disagree with your opinions, does that make you dangerous?

What you are saying is far from being tolerant when the roles are reversed.

I guess we have a different definition of what is "truth". To me truth is like, "the sky is blue", "the grass is green". Truth is indisputable, whereas opinions clearly are. There can only be one truth.

However, if you question the truth, you better have solid facts supporting you.