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I'm catching the tail end of this, seems to be some kind of controversy...

https://domaingang.com/domain-news/rob-monster-off-twitter-after-christchurch-massacre-controversy/

Must be something odd to evoke this type of a response from one of our members.

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I saw the gab thing, and by choice not on Gab or communicate on social media.

"What other extensions would you like to see introduced?"

I don't know how to describe the architecture, but since you are an inventor and innovator-
.... if there were a way to use blockchain and peer to peer technologies to allow valid websites to be resolved- to supplement and potentionally eliminate GOOGLE from being the central control of search- it seems like that would be an extension:

Indexing search of websites based on extension, certified like DMOZ used to do. To eliminate the b.s. search results and gaming.

The company without advertising can be found. The power and money does not necessarily rise to the top. Eliminate all the SEO b.s. too.

If you are familiar with Thomas Register, it was THE go-to guide before the internet to find odd ball physical things, materials and processes, distributors and suppliers and anything to do with commerce in industry.

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They had 4 ft. stack of printed books on everything to build just about anything o-rings to laser cutting
to whatever. Right now, you search and Amazon comes up, who might not sell the best quality but
the cheapest imported O-rings from china.

As an example:
You want to buy a Laser Printer, so:
LaserPrinter.Search
HomesSeattle.Search
ElephantRides.Search
BusinessCards.Search

I think a network of vertical search engine makes a ton of sense.

Many folks here may be familiar with DuckDuckGo. It is growing fast as an alternative search engine around the promise of privacy. The back-end is simply a Bing API and not a ton more. We have experimented with the Bing API and the model is replicable but the challenge is that the Azure API economics are not that attractive. It really requires a special arrangement with Microsoft and they do not move fast! :)

However, I agree with your concept here around "bounded search", whereby a search term can become more accurate by virtue of having a defined of field of search that is semantic relevance. In theory anyone could then build a search engine that is curated. I can imagine being able to register a .SEARCH that is pre-loaded with elastic search (or similar), a great high performance web crawler, AI optimization tools, and some traffic monetization tools. That could be useful!

Specific to .SEARCH, Google already owns it, but it could be done with a .SEEK or .FIND. The .SEEK is actually a live TLD but not being used much.
 
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to build competition to google
that's a great idea

as we see duck.com is doing fine

as long as you are busy with that plan
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I am glad that you are active again on NPs @Rob Monster. It is brave to face all the criticism and I commend you with how you are handling it. I think the domain industry needs the forward thinking way that you and Epik approach things, and your vigilance for the rights of domain investors for due process in decisions and protection from arbitrary loss of platforms. As I said earlier in this thread, and as I said in person when we talked at NamesCon, I have been truly impressed with the way you reach out to help individuals.

@MapleDots a few posts above summarized thinking similar to my own. As I said in my long post early in this thread, I know you to be a helpful, generous, positive and kind person. I think sometimes on NPs we are far too quick to judge people and companies. Certainly one should never judge only on the basis of a single tweet. That is not to say that I agree with the (assumed) content of the tweet, and it is clear that @Slanted has said the same and I believe above you are agreeing that the tweet was wrong.

While an advocate of free speech, as I said in the thread on that topic I think that freedom of speech much always be balanced agains harm that freedom might lead to. I personally do not see why there is a need for every random person to have access to documents by those who have caused violence, and I see grave danger in giving their statements oxygen. While most will use the access responsibly or ignore it, it only takes one person to be incited by it to make the world more dangerous. I hope that Epik will have a serious discussion of the balance between freedom of speech and the harm that might come with access to certain forms of free speech.

While some called them excuses, I think @Slanted comments re echo chamber provides a context that is important in understanding the situation. By that I mean both for us to understand but also for you to understand. Even when you feel so abused by one of the polarized extremes that your country finds itself in, I think it is critical not to listen mainly to voices in the opposite polarized camp. Truly listening to diverse voices can give all of us deeper understanding of complex issues.

Take care,

Bob
 
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@Rob Monster

Still waiting for an answer to the question you posed on your Twitter feed:

@Rob Monster You wrote in the Twitter post linking to the killer's video, "maybe discerning eyes will dicypher the use of symbols and runes".

Can you enlighten us as to what those symbols and runes mean?

Was this anywhere expounded upon?
 
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As this thread winds down to a more level headed discussion with emotions more balanced, I feel it is important for people to be TOLERANT of those views they disagree with.

People can and will disagree, always been that way. Although, in today's culture we continue to see intolerance manifest into extremism. We don't need to go down that path if we respect opposite views and remain tolerant.
 
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As this thread winds down to a more level headed discussion with emotions more balanced, I feel it is important for people to be TOLERANT of those views they disagree with.

People can and will disagree, always been that way. Although, in today's culture we continue to see intolerance manifest into extremism. We don't need to go down that path if we respect opposite views and remain tolerant.


the source meaning of "tolerant" deludes from the Latin word "tolerare"
which originally means "to suffer"

a lot of tolerance is needed these days
 
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As this thread winds down to a more level headed discussion with emotions more balanced, I feel it is important for people to be TOLERANT of those views they disagree with.

People can and will disagree, always been that way. Although, in today's culture we continue to see intolerance manifest into extremism. We don't need to go down that path if we respect opposite views and remain tolerant.

It's interesting how every time @Rob Monster is faced with an uncomfortable question, @Internet.Domains becomes active in his defense.
 
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It's interesting how every time @Rob Monster is faced with an uncomfortable question, @Internet.Domains becomes active in his defense.
What's even more interesting is when I make an unbiased peaceful comment that mentions no name I am attacked.

I will practice what I preached and be TOLERANT of your views.

Peace to you brother.
 
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there is neither Satan nor God
its only existing in human brains

no-where else

this image doesn't justify anything

I suggest you don't make it worse for yourself with every reply

@frank-germany

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The thing is that even if you don't believe in God, most Americans do, at least according to the latest study by Pew Trust.

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I do realize that Europe is post-Christian. My Dutch relatives tell me this regularly. So, I completely get where you are coming from. I will respectfully disagree and still love you the same.

The other reason to care about this topic is that there is compelling evidence that there are persons in extreme positions of power who believe in Satan and worship him.

You are perhaps familiar with Freemasonry. At the 32nd degree of the Scottish Rite, you learn that the God of Masonry is Lucifer. It is in their handbook, Morals and Dogma. I am no Mason but have a copy.

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In case not aware, child sacrifice and Satanic Ritual Abuse have been around for thousands of year. You can research it or not, but it is real and is common in Europe too. Listen to a Dutchman.

One of the things about free speech is that people have the opportunity to learn about the occult, witchcraft, magic and other dark arts. I don't recommend it, but it is out there and it is real.

</sermon>
 
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Many folks here may be familiar with DuckDuckGo.

It is a great idea (privacy) for them to operate the way they do. I've heard rumors for nearly a couple of years that an extremely well funded group has been working on a new/next gen search engine. Hopefully it will not carry the bias some of the big boy search engines have.
 
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What's even more interesting is when I make an unbiased peaceful comment that mentions no name I am attacked.

I will practice what I preached and be TOLERANT of your views.

Peace to you brother.

You were not very tolerant of XYZ. In fact you encouraged people to attack them. So "practice what I preach"?
 
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@frank-germany

<sermon>
In case not aware, child sacrifice and Satanic Ritual Abuse have been around for thousands of year. You can research it or not, but it is real and is common in Europe too. Listen to a Dutchman.

One of the things about free speech is that people have the opportunity to learn about the occult, witchcraft, magic and other dark arts. I don't recommend it, but it is out there and it is real.

</sermon>


Rob you start to scare me more with every post

just because there are a lot of people believing in something
that doesn't make it real



and when you think:
"child sacrifice and Satanic Ritual Abuse "

should be available to the public
because of "free speech"


then I think to myself
>obviously I have misunderstood something<

hopefully
 
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What's even more interesting is when I make an unbiased peaceful comment that mentions no name I am attacked.

I will practice what I preached and be TOLERANT of your views.

Peace to you brother.

@Internet.Domains and I spoke once on the phone in December while I was on a Mexican holiday. I respect that he is not bullied into silence. Other than that, there is no sign of any pro-Rob brigading going on here.

I also appreciate those who extended me the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt. I do plan to answer folks' questions in due course in between some other more pressing tasks!
 
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I also appreciate those who extended me the courtesy of the benefit of the doubt. I do plan to answer folks' questions in due course in between some other more pressing tasks!

You had time to post about elephants, @Rob Monster. I would appreciate you take time to answer the more important questions.
 
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Rob you start to scare me more with every post

just because there are a lot of people believing in something
that doesn't make it real



and when you think:
"child sacrifice and Satanic Ritual Abuse "

should be available to the public
because of "free speech"


then I think to myself
>obviously I have misunderstood something<

hopefully

I think I made it clear that I believe all lives are precious, and that especially includes children and the unborn. Whether or not you want to accept that children go missing for nefarious reasons is entirely up to you. I am not going to use this thread to persuade you or debate you.
 
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I think I made it clear that I believe all lives are precious, and that especially includes children and the unborn. Whether or not you want to accept that children go missing for nefarious reasons is entirely up to you. I am not going to use this thread to persuade you or debate you.


you just said:

"In case not aware, child sacrifice and Satanic Ritual Abuse have been around for thousands of year. You can research it or not, but it is real and is common in Europe too. Listen to a Dutchman.

One of the things about free speech is that people have the opportunity to learn about the occult, witchcraft, magic and other dark arts. I don't recommend it, but it is out there and it is real."


so I understand you want these things to be available to the public

and the reason is "free speech"

??

did I get that right?
 
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I think I made it clear that I believe all lives are precious, and that especially includes children and the unborn. Whether or not you want to accept that children go missing for nefarious reasons is entirely up to you. I am not going to use this thread to persuade you or debate you.

@Rob Monster. You have made it clear about the unborn. But your posts in connection with the NZ Killer and insistence that it is right because it is "free speech" begs the debate whether you find ALL lives precious. In fact, your anonymize platform still has the video live for all to "analyze".
 
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Deleting account, much better than seeing an Account Suspended message. I read Twitter were suspending accounts that were passing it along.

Networking events - marketing, networking. That's the point. Sometimes all it takes is a chat and a hat.

Not sure why people keep saying it was 1 thing. I guess people don't read.

"The thing is that even if you don't believe in God, most Americans do"

Same site:
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/

That has been dropping over the years. From 71% to 63% from 2007 to 2014. We have more information today, so that's expected.
 
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I am glad that you are active again on NPs @Rob Monster. It is brave to face all the criticism and I commend you with how you are handling it. I think the domain industry needs the forward thinking way that you and Epik approach things, and your vigilance for the rights of domain investors for due process in decisions and protection from arbitrary loss of platforms. As I said earlier in this thread, and as I said in person when we talked at NamesCon, I have been truly impressed with the way you reach out to help individuals.

@MapleDots a few posts above summarized thinking similar to my own. As I said in my long post early in this thread, I know you to be a helpful, generous, positive and kind person. I think sometimes on NPs we are far too quick to judge people and companies. Certainly one should never judge only on the basis of a single tweet. That is not to say that I agree with the (assumed) content of the tweet, and it is clear that @Slanted has said the same and I believe above you are agreeing that the tweet was wrong.

While an advocate of free speech, as I said in the thread on that topic I think that freedom of speech much always be balanced agains harm that freedom might lead to. I personally do not see why there is a need for every random person to have access to documents by those who have caused violence, and I see grave danger in giving their statements oxygen. While most will use the access responsibly or ignore it, it only takes one person to be incited by it to make the world more dangerous. I hope that Epik will have a serious discussion of the balance between freedom of speech and the harm that might come with access to certain forms of free speech.

While some called them excuses, I think @Slanted comments re echo chamber provides a context that is important in understanding the situation. By that I mean both for us to understand but also for you to understand. Even when you feel so abused by one of the polarized extremes that your country finds itself in, I think it is critical not to listen mainly to voices in the opposite polarized camp. Truly listening to diverse voices can give all of us deeper understanding of complex issues.

Take care,

Bob

Thanks Bob. Your balanced commentary has been helpful.

Quick followups:

- I did shut down my personal Twitter. If it comes back online, I will review it for content.

- I did remove the IPFS link from my Gab post.

- I have no interest in being an activist for free speech. We want to cater to the mainstream.

- I remain vigilant to misanthropes. If they cannot be defused, they should not be amplified.

- I remain convinced that violence is never the answer as all lives are precious.

As for @Slanted, I think it is clear that I did not surround myself with sycophants or yes-men at Epik. In fact, Joseph is about as strong-willed a guy as you will find in this industry. It should be apparent that we disagree about some really important things, and yet we are still working together, and on most days like each other and I think have mutual respect in spite of our differences.
 
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Deleting account, much better than seeing an Account Suspended message. I read Twitter were suspending accounts that were passing it along.

My question is what was it about the account that justified deleting it in the first place. Most people would just delete the few offending tweets and that's it. Unless the account was filled with condemning tweets and it would take too long to delete them one by one.
 
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@Rob Monster. You have made it clear about the unborn. But your posts in connection with the NZ Killer and insistence that it is right because it is "free speech" begs the debate whether you find ALL lives precious. In fact, your anonymize platform still has the video live for all to "analyze".

I gave the order this morning to retire that IPFS gateway. We support IPFS as a censorship-resistant file format but it does not belong on Anonymize. When that gateway comes down, those links will stop working.
 
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Deleting account, much better than seeing an Account Suspended message. I read Twitter were suspending accounts that were passing it along.

Networking events - marketing, networking. That's the point. Sometimes all it takes is a chat and a hat.

Not sure why people keep saying it was 1 thing. I guess people don't read.

"The thing is that even if you don't believe in God, most Americans do"

Same site:
https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/belief-in-god/

That has been dropping over the years. From 71% to 63% from 2007 to 2014. We have more information today, so that's expected.

It is not knowledge, it is apostasy, and it was all prophesied nearly 2,000 years ago:

Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? - Luke 18:8

For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
- 2 Timothy 3:3-5

However, you are certainly right, JB, America is following the European example and becoming more Godless. I think has less to do with information and more to do with propaganda and distraction. After all it is pretty hard for someone to be thinking about God after a porn session.

Nevertheless, you can be fully assured that a faithful remnant will remain. Lord-willing, I will be one of them and hopefully you can accept that and we can just go back to the business side of domaining as I think many here have now made their positions clear on the matter.
 
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I gave the order this morning to retire that IPFS gateway. We support IPFS as a censorship-resistant file format but it does not belong on Anonymize. When that gateway comes down, those links will stop working.

@Rob Monster. Thanks for that detail. Now, could you please answer this question below? You rose it and it deserves an answer.

@Rob Monster You wrote in the Twitter post linking to the killer's video, "maybe discerning eyes will dicypher the use of symbols and runes".

Can you enlighten us as to what those symbols and runes mean?

Was this anywhere expounded upon?
 
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@Rob MonsterIn fact, your anonymize platform still has the video live for all to "analyze".

In France Facebook and Youtube are being sued for showing that video.
https://www.lemonde.fr/pixels/artic...ntre-facebook-et-youtube_5440972_4408996.html

In the UK there is a criminal offence of "glorifying terrorism." It is not well defined so it could be applied very broadly.

I noticed in some of the Gab stuff that Epik was providing services of some kind to a Tommy Robinson, in the UK - who has been convicted of several criminal offences and promotes hate speech credited with causing attacks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist).

Solicitors representing the victim are pursuing legal action against the social media firm on the basis Facebook was responsible for Robinson's posts as it had given him "special treatment [that] seems to be financially driven".[84] However, on 26 February 2019, Facebook announced that it had banned Robinson from the service for violating Facebook community standards and "posting material that uses dehumanizing language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims." They also cited violations of policies concerning "organized hate"

Tommy Robinson is a pseudonym, the real name is Julian Yaxley-Lennon. Perhaps he chose his pseudonym as a homage to gay rights activist Tom Robinson:
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