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What are your '.best' domain names?

Labeled as new gtlds in gTLD Discussion, started by BabayS, Mar 4, 2019

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  1. Cyril.Best

    Cyril.Best Established Member .Best Staff

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    Hi,

    @Dynadot just answered me.

    It should be "just" a technical (EPP) problem between Dynadot and our back end operator to get the right pricing on .best premiums. @Dynadot team is already working on it to fix it.

    Don't forget to send us the list of your .best domains by email : [email protected] so that the .best team can follow your specific case and make the necessary double check to keep you posted once the pb is fixed @Dynadot.

    Best,

    CF
     
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  2. Cyril.Best

    Cyril.Best Established Member .Best Staff

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    The premium problem has been fixed now @Dynadot.

    Wish you the .Best for your renewals.

    CF
     
  3. karthick55

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    Psychiatrist.best
     
  4. ArielT

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    Streaming dot best
     
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  5. bmugford

    bmugford www.DataCube.com PRO VIP ICA Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Well, it has been 2+ years since this thread was started.

    There is still no aftermarket. NameBio shows (2) .best sales in 2021 for $309 total dollars.

    The extension is losing registrations.

    Add it to the long list of extensions that over-promised and under-delivered. It clearly did not live up to the hype.

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  6. Jurgen Wolf

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    Zero support/participation from GoDaddy.
    That's why.
     
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  7. xynames

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  8. xynames

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    Indeed, if you go to hotels dot best there are clues that it is nothing more than a blog created by the OP , Cyril dot best himself. And hotel dot best resolves to nothing. Neither clearly sold at all, let alone for “about a million.”
     
  9. Cyril.Best

    Cyril.Best Established Member .Best Staff

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    Thanks Brad for the input.

    Please allow me the opportunity to provide an update about the .Best for namepros.

    First, regarding .Best live domains, your extract from ntldstats is totally right.

    I can even tell that is fully part of our Best strategy to go « just down » to 50k live domains by the end of 2021. (FYI : down to 50K a registry has lower annual ICANN fees)

    Why ?

    1. The Best app is now live in stores and as explained here before, we are now fully focusing on the usage of our .Best domains (not #regs). To download the Best app : https://app.best/
    2. To clean the .Best registry of prior/old/abusive brand/trademark registrations,
    3. To liberate few names for new .Best end-users & domainers,

    How ?

    Since 1.1.2021, we have decided to increase our « 1st year promo wholesale reg price » from $1 to almost $4 with all our .Best registrars in promotion.

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    Where I do not agree with you is about the hype.

    First, I do not really like the « hype » term, because it doesn’t really mean anything in terms of marketing and registry success (unless you compare the hype to a real KPI).

    For a registry, the « success », if this is what you would like to mention, is something that you don’t measure from « live domains » but from « domain renewals ».

    A registry success is not having 7M live domains (in china). Doesn’t mean anything to sell cheap domains in China if you don’t renew them. Ask .icu, .xyz, or .loan about it 😉

    So, as we are here talking about success, let me please share the .Best renewal evolution chart of the .best registry since 3 years :

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    As you see now, it’s not about a registry hype : It’s all about a registry success build on a real and long-term usage strategy of .Best domains through the Best app!

    Now, I perfectly get that the success of the .Best registry doesn’t mean the success of .Best domain investors.

    History shown that (success) difference between registries and domainers is all about Time.

    Time to recruit/acquire enough end-users (=potential domain buyers) to make the market liquid enough for domain investors.

    Let me just remind here to people why most ngtlds domainers failed and will continue to fail investing in ngtld if they learn from people asking for hype or short-term return on investment.

    1. you will fail if you listen people telling you that there is a possible aftermarket without a prior end-user market : It’s simply impossible.

    2. Secondly, there is no overnight success : It tooks about 10Y to the .com and most cctlds to create a solid aftermarket.

    And it’s about the same for almost every digital asset : Bitcoin was created in 2009 and the big ramp-up for investors was : 2020 (11Years later!)

    Now, I am not sayin that because value needs time, nothing happened or will happen in the next years but if you are not able to wait and renew your ngtlds domains on the long-term, then please save your money.

    As for the .Best, to answer your question, don’t worry, I will not report here all our .Best premium sales but if you follow us on twitter, you might already know that we sold more premium names in the past year than we did from the beginning : site.best, bestofthe.best, party.best, human.best, 365.best, whatis.best, makeup.best, highest.best, native.best, orlando.best, vps.best, roi.best, fragrance.best, trading.best, ride.best, escrow.best, red.best, bali.best, …

    But once again, please save your money if you still believe that people will run/chase after you because you have a great .Best domain in hand in the next weeks. It's not gonna happened like that.

    Last week, I received a call from a .Best domainer that bought missouri.best in 2018 and was upset because he received a great buying proposal on sedo while he did not renew the domain.

    Of course that’s domainer life but if you work and plan your roi on ngtld on the short term, you will fail and /or be disappointed at the end.

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    Lastly, as for the Best app, I just want to mention that the Best app in now live in all app stores : https://app.best/

    And talking about the hype (as you might like it) :

    1. the .Best is now the first and unique registry to sell domains directly from Apple and Google !

    2. A .Best domain gives you now instant access to a free website through the Best app.

    So you can now get either your .Best domain :

    a) Directly from your favorite registrars (starting $4 for the first year)

    b) Directly from Apple or Google through the Best app (for less than $0.99 / month)

    We started the onboarding process from private invitations to allow Best Brands, official trademarks and social media influencers/creators to register first but if you want to get your private invitation register here : https://app.best/register/

    Ex of .Best domains already connected to the Best app : https://show.best/ , https://joao.best/ , https://pizzas.best/ , https://sonia.best/, https://miami.best/ , https://vegas.best/ , https://artist.best/ , https://money.best/ , https://monsieur.best/ , https://music.best/ , https://laptops.best/ , https://mickael.best/ , https://cars.best/ , https://restaurants.best/ , https://heloise.best/ , https://confitures.best/ , https://wines.best/ , https://design.best/ , https://fashionista.best/ , https://luxury.best/ , https://chillout.best/ , …

    All the Best

    CF
     
  10. Jurgen Wolf

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    GoDaddy is absent completely.
    Other registrars don't matter at all, in terms of aftermarket results.
     
  11. Cyril.Best

    Cyril.Best Established Member .Best Staff

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    It's not about GoDaddy (Amazing 20M users) - it's about Apple and Google (4B social media users).

    We call it disruption ;)

    Classic Process (100M TAM Worldwide) : End-User -> Registrars -> Registry

    Best Process : (4B TAM Worldwide) : End-User -> Apple/Google -> Best App -> .Best Registrars -> .Best Registry

    So basically Godaddy, as all our .Best registrars are now strategic partners (= both clients/suppliers).

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  12. Joe N

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    Hi Cyril,

    I think Brad was referencing posts that extolled the virtues of .best and built excitement for the extension by providing information and statistics that don't paint a complete picture.

    Examples:
    • Producing a graph showing increase in renewals without including any numbers.
    • Listing names using the best app platform, but not providing total number of users, details on whether that meets targets, or future projections linked to real data.
    • Sharing vague stats with a positive spin, like the comparison of GoDaddy sales/users to Apple and Google app store sales/users.
    Generally, your posts have had a lot of positive energy, but have been very text heavy and light on information that allows investors to make a balanced and informed choice. That's hype. You don't have to like the word to do it. ;)

    Good luck with the extension!
     
  13. Jurgen Wolf

    Jurgen Wolf Top Contributor VIP ★★★★★★★★★★

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    And again, in terms of aftermarket - there the same silence like in .TOP
    Both TLDs are ignored by GoDaddy.
     
  14. Cyril.Best

    Cyril.Best Established Member .Best Staff

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    Hi Joe,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    About .Best numbers: all numbers about all registries (including .Best) are opened data from ICANN CZDS so we have nothing to hide.

    You can get most infos about the .Best from many stats platforms such as ntldstats.com, namestat.org, ...

    We just do not disclose the prices we sold our premium names coz it could affect the buyer (in a case of domain resell for instance and, some end-users also asked us to keep that info confidential).

    About the Best app, like I said, we just started the Best onboarding invitation process. We have also launched beginning June 2021 the Best app sunrise period for brand and trademarks owners to protect them before our marketing launch.

    Our future projections on app downloads, registered users, .Best domains and even business/marketing/sales strategy are confidential datas that we only disclose to our investors - I think that you can easily get it.

    But if you have any questions about the Best app in terms of value for the end-users, for brands or whatever unclear that you want to know, please don't hesitate and I will answer them.

    About Go Daddy vs Apple/Google: I just wanted to point the fact that we have a different strategy of most existing ngtlds on the market. Not a bad thing for the others - plus, godaddy has an amazing user base and is also reselling .Best domains, - but we simply do not target the same market, and most importantly, we will not distribute our .Best domains the same way too.

    I can say that our Best business model is closer to a Pinterest/Wix/Shopify mix rather than Verisign for instance.

    Once more, we are not here to sell .Best domain to domain investors: that's not our business strategy.

    Our Best strategy is to sell .Best domain and other value-added services (advertising, trademark protection, social commerce features, ....) to social media end-users and brands to help them promote their Best content/products/services through the Best app and .Best domains.

    We believe that it is the right path to create first a solid end-user market and then a liquid aftermarket for .Best domain names. The aftermarket will be a positive collateral effect of our Best app success - not the opposite.

    But I can totally understand that people can be reticent or simply do not like our Best approach as this industry has lacked of innovation since the ngtld program launch and as a result is now concentrating because none really took care of the value for the end-users since 2012.

    And once more, as a domainer, if you target short-term ROI, then save your money.

    Don't hesitate if you have any questions about the .Best or the Best app.

    All the Best!

    CF
     
  15. Joe N

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    Thanks Cyril. It's a novel approach for sure. I don't knock it, and I wish you the best of luck. Just wanted to help clarify why some might feel that the extension has been "hyped" here.
     
  16. Cyril.Best

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    Thanks Joe. No problem, I like when people challenge us in a constructive way as it helps to clarify things with the community.

    Have a nice WE.

    Best,
    CF
     
  17. Jurgen Wolf

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    .TOP is even stronger.
    I sold 2 .TOPs for 850 USD and 350 EUR.

    In .BEST - no any inquiries, even lowball inquiries.
     

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