.tv What are you expecting will happen to .tv space when TOOLS and Premiums available

[equity78]

I think this a good are to discuss to get people feelings about what is going to happen when TOOLS and Premiums available.

I think some think an immediate increase in value for their domains



I think some will then ask a lot more for their .tv domains because now the tools are out and Demand Media is marketing the .tv extension



I think some think .tv sales will be increased 5 to 10 fold


Personally I don't think there will be an immediate noticeable difference for values I think it will take some time

Brand visibility I think will pick up immediately benefitting developers


Opinions

 

[TheBulldog]

Until we see what happens at the release, it is only speculation. I do, however, think that the names that MAY increase will only be the ones that fit the extension.

NewsChannel.tv? Large increase in value
Loans.tv? Just think, you can watch videos of some lawyer reading a real estate contract. Big viewers there....

TV will and should be pushed as a media extension. Values will be set by the hype.

 

[RogueWriter]

I would like to see myspace/youtube styled scripts, that would be nifty.

 

[Disintegration]

I think that usability will play a key role. If it's easy enough to upload your videos and customize your own site, then the average joe and masses of teens from myspace will get involved. I don't know how to develop or program anything but if I have a template, then its easy for hobby enthusiasts. The young generation is a huge demographic for these advertisers too and if the tools are easy enough, I see the value going up really fast IMO...

 

[domainacrobat]

My opinion is that they will make an online WYSIWYG website editor with the ability to integrate a youtube style system via drag and drop for .tv only. This will allow them to make an infinate youtube style sites with a distinctively different look for eachone. You can plug in your ad code just about anywher you want to monetize it! That would be my dream!
:notme:

 

[equity78]

Not the tools the overall market

 

[domainacrobat]

err um I saw tools and got over zealous! Yes this should increase the overall demand, when demand is up prices go up too! I think the overall .tv market will explode. One reason why, many companies are starting to push .tv on tv. Everday I see at least one ad using .tv and Im in Hawaii with basic cable! People love thinking they are on TV or associated with TV. Its appealing to everyone.

 

[antonis12]

I think the effect will NOT be immediate, just a gradual improvement month-by-month, year-over-year.

People have to remain patient. .tv is going to take 2-4 years to get solidly established in people's mind and browsing behavior

 

[DomainBuyerBroker]

Depends just how big the Demand Media launch is. If they build a good cross domain buzz or even a buzz out to the movie industry like I think they will, then the re-launch could be seen as a new launch of .tv.

However, this time, all the domains are registered so the secondary market and premium names are the only sources for good .tv domains.

So, supply and demand. We and enom.tv own the supply and so an increase in demand means an increase in prices.

I have high expectations for this re-launch and I think Rosenblatt does too.

I just hope that the hype is done right and not cheesy. If the .tv re-launch comes across as a get-rich-quick scheme then the extension will be tainted and the re-launch will be the beginning of the end.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

Theres too much money involved, it wont be cheezy,
even if it starts cheezy or has a few cheezy bumps, there is too much money being thrown at TV on the internet for it to be cheezy, this is going to go, but the question is how big.

If CNBC start talking about rosenblatt and how some of these names are being sold for high value, people will pay attention.

You put one .TV ad up on myspace and youtube for a month, telling people they can build there own tv channel, and you will see a large amount of sites develop.

Plus, companies are always looking for new ways to market, and also to keep up, if a few big firms add .TV they all will want to.

 

[RogueWriter]

I think acceptance will come sooner than many think, for the simple reason that mass media is adopting this extension as their own, and when they make use of a ".TV", it is seen by tens, hundreds of millions of people instantly, worldwide - unlike the typical .com from a non media related company, which may take months/years to seep into the global conscience.

The companies pushing .TV have a potential daily global audience of, say, a BILLION people.

Perhaps I am overstating it, and overstating it by a lot. Lord knows there are a lot smarter people in here than me ( actually, just about everyone! ) : but my bet's on sooner rather than later.

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

What did it take YouTube two years?

It is really time to tighten your portfolio's.

 

[eyedomainous]

The "tools" are out there now and have been for nearly 2 years. The fact that the (new) .TV site is finally getting them (vid upload, soc-networking and user channels) is too little too late to have any real impact on the market. IMO.

Same goes for "Premium" domains... they are out there now... on other extensions. The fact that .TV premmies are back on the table... no real market impact. IMO.

DM's .TV "ChannelMe "marketing reminds me of "Vanity Plate" marketing. And will garner about the same % of the market as vanity plates do in the license plate "market.

Premium .TV's will attract some major corps, who lost out on the .com premmies, seeking to leap-frog the comp with online TV branding. But corps. and "change horses in the middle of the stream" marketing schemes take sometime to hatch.

That's where the .TV market, top to bottom, seems to be heading. IMHO.

 

[MillersCrossing]

The "tools" are out there now and have been for nearly 2 years. The fact that the (new) .TV site is finally getting them (vid upload, soc-networking and user channels) is too little too late to have any real impact on the market. IMO.

Same goes for "Premium" domains... they are out there now... on other extensions. The fact that .TV premmies are back on the table... no real market impact. IMO.

DM's .TV "ChannelMe "marketing reminds me of "Vanity Plate" marketing. And will garner about the same % of the market as vanity plates do in the license plate "market.

Premium .TV's will attract some major corps, who lost out on the .com premmies, seeking to leap-frog the comp with online TV branding. But corps. and "change horses in the middle of the stream" marketing schemes take sometime to hatch.

That's where the .TV market, top to bottom, seems to be heading. IMHO.

Powerful and rather depressing argument.

My counter argument as follows: There will always be the vanity plate market looking for that trophy name - they are in addition to not the main component of the mainstream potential market out there.

According to what you are saying .TV will have little impact because they have bought out the tools two years too late is incorrect - granted the tools are arriving late on the scene, but .TV has still grown enourmously between the years 2005 - 2007 as compared to between 2000 - 2005..(which was a domainers market almost completely.).....the tools are a nice add on for the consumer market, companies though have never needed these tools and have not waited for them......as you will see by doing a google check for all websites ending in .TV.........currently 2.65 million results show up.....so then, 2005 - 2007 are the early bird years, companies that see the future of tv/video and internet merging and are staking their place now and want to be rewarded in 2009 with a brand name that is 4 years old as opposed to one or two years old.

The marketing push by DM will be timely, but the ultimate push for .tv will not be coming from any company but from the technology that is but a short distance away, when JOOST is no longer in a BETA testing phase, offering short clips on a laptop in full screen mode, when NETFLIX contains more than a handful of titles that subscribers can watch from their laptop in full screen mode without ordering it through the mail , but through a selection on their screen.....when broadband speeds are so much faster than they are now, when APPLE releases a fifth version of its APPLE.TV model - the one which allows you to watch anything from your LAPTOP on TV and VICE VERSA..........

Mr Gates has said in numerous articles that 2010 will be the year that the technological breakthroughs will take place.

I believe that this is when the same mass appeal for the .TV extention will reach its zenith of popular appeal........

 

[equity78]

Good points Millers and the tools have nothing to do with the acceptance for the .tv ext No major company will be using enom's tools to make my space sites. Sports.tv could care less about enom's tools, Concert.tv could care less, ripe.tv could care less same for TNT MLB HG and 1000's others and like in any extension those that have good domains will do well witht hose domains. Plenty of people on here ,dnf etc have .coms that suck and they are making no money and developing nothing.

What I always said the best thig about .tv was that it allowed you to get great names coupled withte most recognized acronym in the world. Nothing has come to late but whatever you have to tell yourself

2 years ago the net was not even ready for broadband and IPTV on this kind of major scale

 

[eyedomainous]

Powerful and rather depressing argument.

My counter argument as follows: There will always be the vanity plate market looking for that trophy name - they are in addition to not the main component of the mainstream potential market out there.

The marketing push by DM will be timely, but the ultimate push for .tv will not be coming from any company but from the technology that is but a short distance away... Mr Gates has said in numerous articles that 2010 will be the year that the technological breakthroughs will take place.

I believe that this is when the same mass appeal for the .TV extention will reach its zenith of popular appeal........

Obviously (future) technology will play role... but the IPTV technology of today is good enough to determine that its role in the popularity and market value of .TV domains is Not a determining factor... especially since any domain extension can play videos.

Technology is not the key, to the "mainstream", economics is! I believe, at this stage of the online tv / domain game, that if a person could buy a .TV at the same price as a .com ... they would choose the .TV half the time. Its just a cooler modernity at this point (and "modernity" is a key driving force in buying a doman and putting-up a website).

I think the "Channel Me" marketing push has a serious disconnect. I postures itself as a domain/channel for "everyman" then wants to charge much more than the everyman's domain, .com. Sure some will buy-in, but most will not... when they can save money.

TV is the media of the "common experience". Its embedded in the cultural psyche as the every-day-man's medium. Many feel as if TV is a right (and in the information age, I agree). Folks have a relationship with TV... we need to let them express it, and themselves, by pricing .TV domains for "everyman".

The funny thing is when you lower prices, on high inventory items, you make more money. Its called supply and demand. .coms sell for about the lowest price of any ext. yet they resell for the highest... because the supply has been sold and the demand cannot be met.

Which raises the question... if the demand for .TV's is lower than for .coms why is the price higher? With a higher price, and with all extensions being video able/equal, why would there be a high demand for .tv? (The usual answer is that because its .TV ... and that's worth about 20 points)

Now, don't get me wrong, I am very pro .TV - I just think we .TV domainers have been, and will continue to be, "successful" despite the .TV registars we have had. Again, don't get me wrong... I like the Demand Media energy, and I have my hopes. I just think they see the big picture but have chosen the wrong path to get to where we ALL want to go (to online TV heaven)!

 

[MillersCrossing]

Wrong My Friend!!!

Your argument is working against you!!!

Obviously (future) technology will play role... but the IPTV technology of today is good enough to determine that its role in the popularity and market value of .TV domains is Not a determining factor... especially since any domain extension can play videos.

Sorry, but 2007 pricing for .TV is more expensive than it was in 2001.

Technology is not the key, to the "mainstream", economics is!

CORRECT, now, how much does mortgage.com cost and how much does mortgage .tv cost?? Economics will do two things here. Eradicate Mortgage.Com as an option for 99% of the population. Mortgage.TV becomes an option for alot of companies. Which price will be more affected by this. The.COM price which is already sky high and unaffordable to allmost everyone or the .TV price, affordable to many companies and is an extention that is making sense more and more every day?????

I believe, at this stage of the online tv / domain game, that if a person could buy a .TV at the same price as a .com ... they would choose the .TV half the time.

CORRECT. But can they? No. Next to noone can buy the generic .com, so that 50% jumps to 99%......What happens when so many people (99%) of the population now only have .TV as a viable option?????????? Does the price go up or down???????

Which raises the question... if the demand for .TV's is lower than for .coms why is the price higher? With a higher price, and with all extensions being video able/equal, why would there be a high demand for .tv? (The usual answer is that because its .TV ... and that's worth about 20 points)

I will give you the correct answer...although it is starting to get boring......the reason why is that the .TV will buy them a better quality of name dollar for dollar than the .com ever could. Perversely, the very popularity of the .com is the reason why the reg fee price of the .TV is more expensive......because you are getting more quality for what you are buying aswell as the bonus feature of the cool extention.....

 

[eyedomainous]

Your argument is working against you!!!
... Sorry, but 2007 pricing for .TV is more expensive than it was in 2001.

Really? .TV corp charged $50 a reg in 2001, we are paying $24 now, 2007, at Enom.

Price down / Sales Up. This is the case for virually every biz on the planet. If I'm wrong on this there is no WalMart.

 

[MillersCrossing]

Really? .TV corp charged $50 a reg in 2001, we are paying $24 now, 2007, at Enom.

Price down / Sales Up. This is the case for virually every biz on the planet. If I'm wrong on this there is no WalMart.

Sorry, I was refering to resale market and the fact that $50 coukd have bought you DALLAS.TV in 2000, and now has a 10k price tag......ask Elequa how many of his renewals cost more than $50 a year......each one of his is a superpremium name

 

[equity78]

If it is about price for the everyman and .com cheaper than .tv so that why .com is their domain? than .info would be the number 1 ext if we are talking about price. .99 or free and the everyman can get .net for $4.75 vs $6.75 for .com at Fabulous

Secondly the intuitive anture for the Channel Me crowd the .tv works. There are two different things going on. DemanD media is going after the myspace crwod with channel me and those people will put out $25 for something that they really want to have $25 is no big deal

Premiums are after another market not the everyman but the Corporation.