What am I missing???

[Premium gTLD]

Okay, so I know I'm a "newbie" with "no experience" but I gotta ask, what am I missing?

For the price of a single, random NLLLL.com (in this case P3798.com), I instead purchased the following premium .guide domains:

• Truck.guide
• Drone.guide
• SUV.guide
• ATV.guide
• Art.guide

Can anyone honestly say with a straight face that a random LNNNN.com would be a better investment than a single one of the .guide domains above, let alone all five of them?

 

[thetruman]

No they won't im afraid...come back in 2 years and say that

I have to agree with giles truck.guide? I rather prefer truckguide.com . I have (solid) domains regged with the new extension but is more a like a "wait and hope" investment

 

[Premium gTLD]

1.LNNNN.coms DO NOT sell(actually most of them are available, examples:
p1112.com, p1121.com, p1123.com, p1125.com, p1126.com)

2.The domains you listed cost more than $300/yr since art.guide and truck.guide alone cost $220/yr and $70/yr respectively.

Personally I like new gtlds, so I'm not saying that you can't make money with the ones you bought, just don't compare a $8 reg fee with $300+ a year in renewals.

We're not talking about buying a virgin .COM for $8 that will appreciate dramatically. They no longer exist. That's the whole point for investing BRAND NEW DOMAINS.

And yes, with Art.guide it's $220 per year, which for a three digit domain whose key word is searched more than 673,000 times per month, and for which there literally thousands of variant "Artguide" domains, it's a steal.

 

[Kostas]

We're not talking about buying a virgin .COM for $8 that will appreciate dramatically. They no longer exist. That's the whole point for investing BRAND NEW DOMAINS.

And yes, with Art.guide it's $220 per year, which for a three digit domain whose key word is searched more than 673,000 times per month, and for which there literally thousands of variant "Artguide" domains, it's a steal.

I'm not the one who compares them, you are. You compare a random LNNNN that can be bought with $8 with domains that can be bought with $300+ and you ask which is more valuable.

 

[Premium gTLD]

I have to agree with giles truck.guide? I rather prefer truckguide.com . I have (solid) domains regged with the new extension but is more a like a "wait and hope" investment

I'm not the one who compares them, you are. You compare a random LNNNN that can be bought with $8 with domains that can be bought with $300+ and you ask which is more valuable.

That specific "random" .COM I mentioned is actually for sale and they are asking several hundred dollars for it.

 

[Kostas]

What's your point? I can buy a random .top and ask millions.

 

[Argentum]

Just stay away from new tlds as there was advised before. Even Google purchased abc.xyz is still not launched as fully functional website as they are still looking for better alternative in .com

 

[Premium gTLD]

What's your point? I can buy a random .top and ask millions.

The point is right now "investors" are actually buying random .com domains and they could instead be purchasing exact-match, premium gTLD domains with that same money.

Again premium gTLD's that 'make sense' with lots of upside vs. non-sense .com's that have very limited upside.

Not a tough choice. I'll buy the as many of the one word, exact-match, highly brandable gTLD's as I can, not leftover .com's at inflated valuations.

 

[John Abay]

drone.guide best for earning cash in future because currently drone use in most of the place in war and in future its also use for giving delievery of goods.

yes m agree this domain may get high profit in future.

 

[ikehook]

We're not talking about buying a virgin .COM for $8 that will appreciate dramatically. They no longer exist. That's the whole point for investing BRAND NEW DOMAINS.

And yes, with Art.guide it's $220 per year, which for a three digit domain whose key word is searched more than 673,000 times per month, and for which there literally thousands of variant "Artguide" domains, it's a steal.

A whole lot of people just made a shit load of money the last few months with "virgin" .coms, that appreciated rapidly.

 

[Premium gTLD]

A whole lot of people just made a sh*t load of money the last few months with "virgin" .coms, that appreciated rapidly.

And that's the point. That's the definition of a bubble. Just hope you're not the one trying to flip those names when the bubble pops.

 

[gilescoley]

I don't have to come back in 2 years. I've already sold multiple premium domains where I've made more than 50X's my original investment, in one case it's 136X the original investment.

What sort of names have you sold, Im more curious as to the type and quality of keywords you had, if you sold premium keywords then thats different as most are not available to the average domainer on here who is investing in these names

 

[Premium gTLD]

What sort of names have you sold, Im more curious as to the type and quality of keywords you had, if you sold premium keywords then thats different as most are not available to the average domainer on here who is investing in these names

My target buyer are specific end users, not other domainers. Check out SearchTerm.Domains to see the type of names I'm working with.

 

[gilescoley]

My target buyer are specific end users, not other domainers. Check out SearchTerm.Domains to see the type of names I'm working with.

Im curious about the names you sold, not really names you own now

 

[Eckhart]

Im curious about the names you sold

He posted earlier in the thread the link to some of what he sold, I went and saw it the xyz domain for 5k.. won't post for him but it's a nice sale.

 

[gilescoley]

I checked and the links didn't work, this was the other link

http://searchterm.domains/

I was curious to see all the sales

 

[JB Lions]

Just for you JB, posted "specifics" on that thread for $3K .city sale. Kind of hope you don't start paying attention until the rest of us 'newbies' acquire all the single word premium gTLD's.

Right now it's more like a $250 sale, since you're on a 12 month plan with the buyer who doesn't have a lot of upfront money. Just read about your directory sale, another 12 month plan. People tight on money, don't always complete. Good thing is if they don't, you still have the domain at least. I do hope it goes thru for you tho.

I just noticed lexingtoncity.com is available for less, $2,695, and they have a payment plan as well, which is less per month as well.

 

[frank-germany]

to answer your question
I would buy any of those

 

[Kate]

We're not talking about buying a virgin .COM for $8 that will appreciate dramatically. They no longer exist. That's the whole point for investing BRAND NEW DOMAINS.

Not completely true, but they are rare.
However, you can still buy domains for $88 and sell them for $888, or even buy for $888 and sell for $8888.

But it's already hard enough to sell good .com. Nonetheless I'm happy that you are having success, I don't think a lot of persons have such a positive experience with new extensions. The layman hardly knows they even exist.

And yes, with Art.guide it's $220 per year, which for a three digit domain whose key word is searched more than 673,000 times per month, and for which there literally thousands of variant "Artguide" domains, it's a steal.

It's a steal I agree :D

The problem is not paying an inflated renewal fee, something that most end users still wouldn't understand, because a .com costs roughly $10 at nodaddy, and most people think that no domain should be worth more than that. The problem is when there is no price control, and the registry can jack up the price at will, possibly price you out, making the foundations of your business shaky.

A land ownership title is just a worthless piece of paper when you've built real estate on shifting sands.

 

[thetruman]

a big company wouldn t care paying 100 or 10 for their domain

 

[DU]

The problem is not paying an inflated renewal fee, something that most end users still wouldn't understand, because a .com costs roughly $10 at nodaddy, and most people think that no domain should be worth more than that. The problem is when there is no price control, and the registry can jack up the price at will, possibly price you out, making the foundations of your business shaky.
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Price shifts in the real world happen all the time - the price of oil, the price of fertilizer, the price of advertising, the price of employees, the price of beer and pajamas for those that work at home.

That said - the rules are that renewals have to be consistent so they cannot simply jack the price up to any that they want unless they do it for ALL registrants with sufficient notice. The premium renewal is an exception because the registrant explicitly accepted those terms at registration. This idea that you can have a domain that suddenly goes from $10 to $1000 dollars is largely flawed and not allowed as that would be the renewal to ALL their registrants. The net loss > net gain so it won't happen.

Furthermore, the .com contract is changing 2018 and price increases will mostly be allowed. There's no point to the premium structure when those names are gone... you can't expect an increase from $8 to $100 because the lost registrations would be enormous.. however, if you knew you could raise prices 20% to about $10 on 100 million names+ and it results only in a 10 million drops you'd think about it too.

ALSO any initial reg can be done for up to 10 years so pretty much no shift there

The "moving sands" is quite misleading. Most domainers are worried about something like a shift from $10 to $100 but that's because their inventory cost grows considerably. A business with 2-3 names doesn't care nearly as much. People with 30,000 names might not be amused {It will happen, imho}

It's a great com is king argument though, isn't it.

The one true issue for domainers that exists already is more around registrar rebates and discounts that aren't renewed. This is an issue for the .TV crowd where you see 10.99 specials that disappear.