other Vetting procedure for sales threads

[NickB]

Can Namepros look into getting sales listings vetted?

I just looked at a thread that has been bumped for 20 pages and with one of their listings they are asking for more than the domain is listed on a Brandable website.....

How is this allowed?

It smacks of unprofessionalism from the lister and Namepros as you are allowing this to happen......

 

[pb]

TBH that whole thread bumping is nonsensical. Everyone should be able to bump the thread once or twice and that's it. And only if they want to update the listing, e.g. lowered price, otherwise what's the point? Imagine a reputable auction site where all the sellers just sit and write "bump" on their listings every couple of minutes.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

All about money honey
This guy has a tool that bumps threads every 15 minutes or he has insomnia.
https://www.namepros.com/members/matheus-oliveira.1039223/
Even a thread about that but seriously this invisible down voting or upvoting is fun

 

[NickB]

got to love the anonymous downvotes - I'll assume they, him or her are the ones listing crap.......as they can't seem to provide a constructive response

You list a domain on here for more than it has been accepted on SquadHelp or Brandpa then you are either incompetent or fraudulent.....

 

[Paul]

The whole bump issue is very strange. For my account level, the server does prevent any bumps more than the 3/d allotted by my account level. The curious thing was why some members appeared to be able to bump even multiple times in an hour.

They can't. Their excess bumps don't have any impact. They receive a notice that their bump has been disregarded. If you have a specific example where that has not happened, please let me know and I'll investigate. Please link to the exact post--not just the thread--that bumped when it should not have done so.

yeah, I don’t blame the people because Paul said it’s within the rules. But I just can’t seem to locate those rules @Paul where are those rules that don’t seem to match up with account limits?

I don't think I said it's within the rules; I probably said those excess bumps have no impact. If you make useless bumps so frequently that it's annoying other users despite not actually bumping anything, and we find that you're using automated tools to do so, we're probably going to ask you to stop, at the very least.

His reply didn’t make any sense to me. For one of your threads I see 12 bumps. Somewhere else I saw somebody mention a bump every 15 minutes, that’s almost 100 a day

I think people are confused about which posts actually bump a thread. If you do that, you're just make useless excess posts that don't bump the thread.

That would solve the problem, which appears to be a technical matter that Namepros has yet to address.

As far as I can tell, there's no technical issue on our end. If you make excess bumps, they'll be ignored: your thread won't be bumped. The post will still appear, but it won't have any effect.

Ah, ok, I don't know if it will change much, there are some other users...

If you have a browser plugin that's automatically bumping threads, and it's causing issues for other users, please consider fixing it.

 

[Paul]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/me...e-old-domains-com.1274951/page-2#post-8613637
This guy has 36,000 posts. Highest number on namepros and zero impact.
However it does seem to be having an impact as its a töpic of discussion

That's quite something, especially considering the majority of those posts have no impact on the performance of the thread.

That being said, I'm seeing that more of those bumped than I would expect. I'm looking into why.

 

[Constantin S]

I reported 2 threads from a seller who bumped their threads excessively for months and nothing was done.

Edit: I got you bro, enjoy the upvotes it's just sad that NP allows such behavior.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

He changed it from 15 to 40 minutes so he doesnt attract attention

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

He changed it from 15 to 40 minutes so he doesnt attract attention

So that individual is probably trying to use the level of service that he subscribed to, likely a Gold account?

Maybe the limits need to be revised. Say 1 bump a day would be enough and then even a limit on the thread itself so it expires and deletes after a month. Saves the backlog of threads with thousands of bumps.

Right now, there clearly is a challenge for a listing to be seen due to all the bumps from the community. If there was uniformity in fixing this, so perhaps everyone was restricted to one bump a day, perhaps that would help? The problem there, of course, is that a potential enticement for paying members, such as the six bump Gold status, is then lost. Membership may be significantly impacted.

The time limitation of perhaps a month sounds interesting, but one can apparently change the title of the thread to reflect different domains, especially as domains get sold. The idea sounds like a good one, though.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

@LoveCatchyDomains
No not a gold account, just 48 bumps a day. Good for your post count too. Guy never sleeps lol
https://www.namepros.com/threads/3-...pollingrate-com.1266440/page-820#post-8795446

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

Either or, you go to fixed price he is #1 at moment
20,000+ bumps once in a while he actually logs in and changes the names.
Make money selling that program

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

I just noticed not 1 mod/NP staff has addressed anything is this thread. Saw a sales thread with 12 bumps already for 1 thread but can’t find what level that’s ok with. Is this forum more free for all at this point. No limit bumping?

The whole bump issue is very strange. For my account level, the server does prevent any bumps more than the 3/d allotted by my account level. The curious thing was why some members appeared to be able to bump even multiple times in an hour.
Having the mods check into that would be great---if it's still going on. It go so overwhelming with one poster that I did finally felt the need to implement a solution. If you put the person on ignore, the postings no longer are visible to you, at least in the new posts alert. When the posts were bumping about every 10 minutes, it seemed that that was the only way to get it to stop.
As far as I know, there is no account level that allows more than 5 bumps a day, but for some reason, members that aren't even Gold level are able to do much, much more than that. That then decreases the visibility for those with the much, much lower bump limitations. Fairness across the board might be helpful.

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Apparently it’s in the rules according to Paul in this thread below,when somebody pointed out someone was bumping their thread every 15 minutes. I just can’t find where those rules are where you can bump that much, I don’t see that mentioned in the account levels section. @Bravo Mod Team where is that at?

https://www.namepros.com/threads/bu...nually-typing-everytime.1266599/#post-8725102

The Xenforo Bump Tool plugin appears to be the issue. It allows the automated bumps to happen, without adhering to the account level limits. The automted bump tool sounds great---it perhaps needs some tweaking, to integrate it to function at the level that is permissible by the account level.
Paul seemed to allude to the notion that it's ok to have the extra bumps, because somehow they don't matter. That wouldn't be good, though, if somehow you're making it appear they are happening, but really aren't. People pay or work hard to get to a level where they get a certain number of bumps allowable. They should matter.

 

[JB Lions]

Olgaler? he still doing this

I noticed that one. Saw he had the most posts here in only 2 years, don’t remember his posts, they were sales threads. Blue Account supposed to be 4 bumps a day

Maybe you don’t even have to pay or pay for a lower account and bump away if nobody is watching. Get multiple accounts and own this place

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

I started wondering if it was possible, then I went to research it, I found this site but it was paid... so I ended up doing my own thing. turns out it's free and 24/7, the biggest motivation was silly, I forgot to bump or bumped at the wrong time...

Sadly, there were others trying to sell domains probably over the year that didn't get as much visibility thanks to others using this automated tool. Visibility in the front page "new posts" section could matter quite a bit--since it's unclear how often actual people rather than bots are checking the sales sections. The bumps give at least perhaps a few minutes of viewing time to a large audience as a "New Post" listing. And it is very much appreciated.

Just keep in mind that there are folks who are only allowed two posts and two bumps a day. Don't they deserve at least a chance to have their listing seen. And what about VIPs, like myself, who have worked hard to get to this account level. My 2-3 bumps/day become very irrelevant if, with 10 minute bumps, you have 144 bumps/d. At then multiply that by multiple listings!

Can the automated tool scripts be eliminated or at least blocked for now, pending having it fixed to correct for account levels?

 

[JB Lions]

Olgaler? he still doing this

Damn, just checked on of this threads today, 50 bumps so far today, 34 before noon - https://www.namepros.com/threads/no...d-more-old-domains-com.1274951/page-541#posts

 

[LoveCatchyDomains]

Damn, just checked on of this threads today, 50 bumps so far today, 34 before noon - https://www.namgepros.com/threads/nopassion-com-14-years-old-gracehost-com-22-years-old-smalltricks-com-16-years-old-usthb-com-25-years-old-more-old-domains-com.1274951/page-541#posts

The person doing the144bumps/day knows who they are, and they are now gone from my view thanks to the ignore button. Who it is is irrelevant at this point to me. If you are likewise seeing anyone abusing the system, feel free to click on their profile and push "ignore." You won't have to worry about seeing anything from them ever again.

So, let's say you are a Gold Account member, paying for 5 bumps per day. You now learn that you could have been posting over 100x a day for free, without paying a dime.
Does this help recruit paying members? Retain them? Who wouldn't think it's a good idea to stop this automated bumping script immediately, and apply the bumping rules uniformly?

If paid members are using the script, they could be alerted that they need temporarily to do the bumping manually, until the technical issues are resolved.

 

[MasterOfMyDomains]

https://www.namepros.com/threads/me...e-old-domains-com.1274951/page-2#post-8613637
This guy has 36,000 posts. Highest number on namepros and zero impact.
However it does seem to be having an impact as its a töpic of discussion

 

[Paul]

That being said, I'm seeing that more of those bumped than I would expect. I'm looking into why.

I was wrong. It's a blue account, so the thread can be bumped four times per day. All those posts--yet only four valid bumps per day. That's a bit much.

 

[cooljub]

This guy has a tool that bumps threads every 15 minutes or he has insomnia.

Every 40 minutes, like clockwork

but seriously this invisible down voting or upvoting is fun

I can't think what the reason might be for keeping it?

 

[eternaldomains]

Hold on isn't the max bumps per day per thread 6 bumps for a gold account? Did the code go haywire or did the rules changed??

 

[D Haynes]

Maybe the limits need to be revised. Say 1 bump a day would be enough and then even a limit on the thread itself so it expires and deletes after a month. Saves the backlog of threads with thousands of bumps.

The forum format isn't suited to being used as a marketplace listing solution. It's OK for auction listing but not long term listing.

 

[JB Lions]

I just noticed not 1 mod/NP staff has addressed anything is this thread. Saw a sales thread with 12 bumps already for 1 thread but can’t find what level that’s ok with. Is this forum more free for all at this point.

@Bravo Mod Team No limit bumping?

 

[JB Lions]

The Xenforo Bump Tool plugin appears to be the issue. It allows the automated bumps to happen, without adhering to the account level limits. The automted bump tool sounds great---it perhaps needs some tweaking so only the permissible number of account-level bumps happen.

yeah, I don’t blame the people because Paul said it’s within the rules. But I just can’t seem to locate those rules @Paul where are those rules that don’t seem to match up with account limits?

 

[Matheus Oliveira]

Many are, didn’t even know about the bump plug-in, years ago somebody mentioned they were using a Windows command to bump threads. So I have no idea what the rules are since they don’t seem to actually exist and I don’t think whoever is in charge is too worried about it

I started wondering if it was possible, then I went to research it, I found this site but it was paid... so I ended up doing my own thing. turns out it's free and 24/7, the biggest motivation was silly, I forgot to bump or bumped at the wrong time...