.mobi Very Proud of my Post in the Anti-Mobi Thread decided to repost it in its own Home!

[yoyosean]

I guess t-mobile, vodafone, google, microsoft, nokia, cingular, tim, gsm, 3, deutschetelekom, and others should hire you so you can tell them not to invest in .mobi because it is not relevant.

Why in the world would these companies create a consortium and launch .mobi if it is not relevant, have you ever just sat back and contemplated this and if you say it is so they can make a little bit of money on reg fees (little to them) that is a little ridiculous is it not?

they invested and launched it to build user awareness of the mobile web to further the footprint of the internet. whether you like it or not .COM has been branded as the extension of choice for the Desktop non wireless world and while you can access some .coms from your mobile phone it has not been branded as Mobile usage.

By "Launching" a mobile specific brand .MOBI it will help to generate consumer awareness and usage of the mobile web, that it does exist that it is easy and accessible and that the user experience is good. Your average mobile phone user (in the US) does not generally use their phone for mobile surfing due to the convenience factor of it, hard to type, big slow webpages, costs, etc.

When it is marketed to the consumer as something new ".MOBI" they will get re-excited or excited for the first time about the mobile web, that is how branding works!!!! Microsoft, Google, etc. could generally care less about the .MOBI extension IMHO but they need something to brand and generate usage of the mobile internet in the US and abroad and this is the vehicle they have chosen, whether you like it or not.

Now once this becomes branded in the minds of the consumers it will NEVER go away, whether or not the "NEED" for .MOBI goes away or not, what in fact they have done is branded the MOBILE INTERNET and built consumer awareness around the MOBILE INTERNET, and the amount of money these companies will generate from advertising dollars on mobile phones will be staggering, but their has to be a "LAUNCHING" point, a "RALLYING CRY" or whatever you want to call it. Hey JeremyP how did I do?

Marketing/Branding 101 my friends.

Thank you, Rep will gladly be accepted!! : )

 

[ofclean]

So I'll post my response:

Why in the world would these companies create a consortium and launch .mobi if it is not relevant, have you ever just sat back and contemplated this and if you say it is so they can make a little bit of money on reg fees (little to them) that is a little ridiculous is it not?

they invested and launched it to build user awareness of the mobile web to further the footprint of the internet. whether you like it or not .COM has been branded as the extension of choice for the Desktop non wireless world and while you can access some .coms from your mobile phone it has not been branded as Mobile usage.

Wrong, and then right.

.com really is synonymous with "website", mobile or not.. When people think of .coms, they think of websites. No argument.

Now, these companies started .mobi because they want to raise awareness about their products, it's that simple. By having your name in the press as a .mobi supporter, you are seen as supporting future mobile technology. However, as that technology gets better, the niche for a separate extension dries up.

In short: there is NO reason to have a separate domain for devices with smaller screens, especially considering screens are getting larger and rendering technology is improving.

All of this "on-the-go" crap is just that: crap. People will want to access Myspace and Facebook and their favorite forums from their phone, not some other "world" of websites.

Look, I'm almost an anarcho-capitalist, I love seeing things succeed. But I also hate seeing good money being thrown away, and that's what .mobi is. It's a decent extension, but not something to be invested in. It's something to develop, like .la.


Edit: Please stop talking about the "Mobile Internet" as if it something different. It's the same internet accessed from mobile devices, and for the average consumer, they will probably be visiting the sites they already visit. Device independence is what we should be striving towards, not a niche extension with strict and restrictive rules.

 

[yoyosean]

What you have here is the classic technology guy vs. the marketing branding guy argument. Although technology is extremely important if you dont market it and brand it to the consumer it is nothing. Many argue that MAC is far better than PC (technology wise) and while this may be true, while Apple was focusing on technology, Microsoft was marketing and branding rapidly and quite simply won the game!!!

 

[ofclean]

What you have here is the classic technology guy vs. the marketing branding guy argument. Although technology is extremely important if you dont market it and brand it to the consumer it is nothing. Many argue that MAC is far better than PC (technology wise) and while this may be true, while Apple was focusing on technology, Microsoft was marketing and branding rapidly and quite simply won the game!!!

But you can't "brand" .mobi as the "mobile website extension" to consumers when consumers will want rich content on their mobile devices, and/or when .coms forward their mobile users to a mobile-friendly version of their site. No one will want to look at a text list on their iPhone, and if that is what .mobi becomes associated with, it's in trouble.

 

[Rochemontagne]

People talk like only .com will be used on the mobile devices. If .com is king and will be the only extension used on mobile, like some of you are saying, why are people still registering .net, .org, .us, .in, etc. All of these can be used on mobile also...so .mobi will be at least as relevant as .net, .org, etc. Mobi is another useful extension that fits.

 

[yoyosean]

never mind dude dont buy .mobi dont build .mobi if I make a bunch of money congratulate me ok. I am willing to risk $10k to possibly make hundreds of thousands while you are not, that is ok, i feel like this argument is never ending.

You never answered the question why is google, microsoft, nokia, samsung, vodafone, etc. on board with .mobi why are you right and some of the biggest companies in the world wrong?

you are right if and when mobile content becomes more dynamic people who own .mobi extensions will not be able to increase their technological capabilities they will be forced by the .mobi gods to be archaic. Isnt that a little ridiculous thought process?

Please Tell Me Why These Enormous Companies Have Invested And Created .mobi, Please!!!!

 

[RockNet]

when will people face the fact that .mobi is the next revolution in the world wide web... opportunities likes this come every 15-20 years....

face the fact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they may be a 1000 other extensions... what about the 1000 we have now... what success have they had have on you...????? none, other than few sales here and their that get on the top of headlines...other than that .com has dominated peoples fingers when they search.... those same fingers will be searching for .mobi websittesss since they will have their mobile phones with them everywere...... hotel, washroom, airplane.... when was the last time you took your PC desktop with you to the washroom or too your local dinner?

screens of mobiles continue to get larger??????? wow.... what you think their going to get big as my home desktop screen???? yes????

the fact is, FACE THE FACT...and stop denying the FACTS... its time to smell the coffer and wake up.

 

[complexs6]

Its hard to say what will happen to the .mobi extension why dont you guys give it time for a fully functional web browser on the phone to come out like the iPhone or the soon to be called Apple Phone. I think after its launch the hype over .mobi's will increase. My 2 cents

 

[yoyosean]

i am done with stewball. good luck to you dude (ofclean) i hope for your sake that you are correct and you are not looking back 10 years from now saying man i had a massive opportunity and I let it pass me by where i can look back and say hey I stood up to the plate and took some swings instead of sitting on the bench saying swinging is irrelevant. because if i am right what you are saying right now wont hold much water will it and i will have risked a small amount of money to make a lot.

and you will simply be a blip on the radar screen : ) or a speed bump in the long road of life : )

 

[RockNet]

exactly, what is an investment of 1000 to 5000 today... when you look back in ten years...

oh i lost 5000? or Oh I made 10 million!!!

 

[yoyosean]

You May Very Well Be Right .mobi Might Ultimately Fail, Microsoft Might Ultimately Fail, Google Might Ultimately Fail!!

But I Bet You Wish You Had Regged Sportsbook.mobi At This Point!!!!!!!

 

[ofclean]

People talk like only .com will be used on the mobile devices. If .com is king and will be the only extension used on mobile, like some of you are saying, why are people still registering .net, .org, .us, .in, etc. All of these can be used on mobile also...so .mobi will be at least as relevant as .net, .org, etc. Mobi is another useful extension that fits.

Absolutely, that's what I'm saying.

Edit: And I did answer why Nokia, etc. would tag their names to this extension. See my first post.

 

[FathomJH]

yes i am a mobi supporter, but i got something to ask:


why does every go on the defensive with a new extension. it doesn't affect them. Did mobi do something to them. Simply put, people support mobi but is it human nature to automatically oppose it? i hate people like that.

 

[yoyosean]

I just wish i could take my iPoker.mobi out of auction right now the more I talk the more I convince myself that the value is going to increase and I think dramatically this year!!

 

[mykel241]

But you can't "brand" .mobi as the "mobile website extension" to consumers when consumers will want rich content on their mobile devices, and/or when .coms forward their mobile users to a mobile-friendly version of their site. No one will want to look at a text list on their iPhone, and if that is what .mobi becomes associated with, it's in trouble.

You are sadly mistaken.

What makes you think you cannot brand .mobi as the mobile website extension.

What do you think it stands for?

Websites in Mobile Alabama?

or better yet maybe websites for people who live in mobile homes...

You can brand this just like any other country code or tld or even (I'm stretching here) IDNs.

You argument is mute. In today's world anything can be branded if marketed right and it make sense. And I hate to break it to you but .mobi makes sense.

.mobi is mobile compliant content

.com on a mobile phone you are playing russian roulette with data usage fees, uncompliant sites, and much more.

Michael

 

[FathomJH]

We'll show them. Long-live mobi. :]


btw, rep added yoyo

 

[RockNet]

iPoker.mobi is a beautiful name, it would be a loss if you decide to sell it for 500 , the current bid is 100 times less than the real value

look for yourself... iPoke_com is already a success....

i dont know why people whit good names are selling so fast... dude who sold military.mobi for $5000 on sedo... i was like... why!!!!!!!! the us forces will pay a 100K minimum... what better way to recruit people on their phones lol

just my opinion.. like our good friend who is now auctioning casinoonline.mobi for 5K... these are the biggest mistakes any rookie domainer can do...

from experience in selling names, i have learned when the first bid comes from the buyer.. they will most times pay up to 4 times more...

someone who bids 5000 for the first bid will also pay 20K...no one would use all their bankroll to make one bid... unless you think your 100% sure your going to win...

 

[yoyosean]

This was my last argument with a mobi hater. It is like arguing politics or religion no matter how much one sides argument makes sense the other side refuses to budge regardless if you are right and they are wrong the problem with ofclean is that he has NOTHING to gain if Mobi succeeds.

he did not early reg, he cannot say right now that he doesnt wish he regged every nnn.mobi he could think of because if he did, he could probably retire right now.

so he will only try to poke holes because he has nothing to gain the only hope he has is that he can say I was right! Well thats great! Saying I was right means a lot to some people. Because if you make money on taking risks you dont need to say anything, however if you dont make money you can look back and say hey I TRIED, or I LEARNED SOMETHING, or as Garth Brooks said I could have missed the pain but I'd of had to miss the dance.

Good luck to you risk takers and believers in the extension.

 

[Fundraiser]

yoyosean,

You do not understand branding at all. Your posts are utter nonsense. Your thread title is completely inflammatory and was actually extracted from a thread started by a pro-mobi member, egnited. You decided to crash the professional discussion with your purely promotional and hyped assumptions. Here is that thread.

http://www.namepros.com/dot-mobi/286817-the-anti-mobi-argument.html

Folks before posting, read that other thread and see that a reasonable conversation was taking place. By starting the inflammatory thread, the OP is simply hyping mobi for his own purposes. He eventually calls member ofclean "stewball" and a "mobi-hater" when all he has done is show incredible patience.

And then people even give the OP rep points. Sheesh.

 

[ofclean]

I don't hate .mobi, I simply don't religiously support it like you do.

Look, .mobi (and probably any new ext) has potential for quick money to be made for people who register premium names early. But once the buzz wears off, and people realize, "Oh wait, this extension is pointless now", then good luck selling.