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Value of Domain Hacks

Located in Niche Domain Discussion, started by xman, Feb 28, 2007

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  1. redemo

    redemo Established Member

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  2. richardhope

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    I don't believe for one moment that the bid is genuine, but let's wait and see...
     
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  3. DomainGaze.com

    DomainGaze.com Established Member

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    I disagree. I'd say if you look up sales for domain hacks on NameBio, you'd certainly be surprised. There are tonnes of similar domain hacks that have sold for even higher. And they have gone both to end-users and investors alike.
    https://namebio.com/?s==QDN1YTMxMzM

    And a lot of single-letter domains have gone even higher despite them not being considered hacks. And no I am not speaking of .io, .co domains which would obviously be priced too high.
    https://namebio.com/?s==czN1YTMxMzM

    So, not everything you see is fake. Besides, it doesn't hurt to do a bit of background check to see what people have managed in the past.
     
  4. richardhope

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    With respect, i'm all too well aware of past domain hack sales, and have been actively involved in this area of domain names for the last 16 years.

    The minimum bid allowed on the domain was US$100K, and I believe that the offer was made very shortly after the listing went live... Hmmm.

    Also, who on earth would pay that lofty sum for an Ethiopian hack?!.. Jurisdictionally, it is terrible. Of course, you can certainly claim you own that domain, and you may also be able to make use of it as a website, but litigating over it (in the case of a dispute, or if the registry just decided to take it from you) would be completely impossible.
     
  5. DomainGaze.com

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    Have you seen what wall.et sold for? It is actively being used. As for the domain in question, it may be a lofty sum, but you cannot get any meaningful single-letter ccTLDs for dirt cheap and this high amount is a steal when compared to what more common TLDs sell for. I've seen so many betting sites use short hacks that I won't be surprised if the bidder is one of them. How much do you think big companies spend on marketing their brands? This amount pales in comparison. A great hack goes a long way in grabbing attention in a world where attention spans are constantly dwindling. And I guess such names bring a lot of marketing potential with them.

    Now, I'm pretty sure you'd say I am saying all this because that is what I offer as well, right? I have been interested in domains, but never really got into selling any until very recently. Why did I get into hacks? Initially, I just started collecting hacks because I love them so much. And, if and when I give this up, I'd still keep some of the hacks I want for my own purposes. I don't have money to throw around yet I don't mind spending 10K on a good hack. For people who see business value in the name, spending 100K isn't as outrageous as you think.

    I don't know much about this particular sale, but how do you know it wasn't a push to auction? It wouldn't be surprising that the seller could have already had a seller making that offer in private and then decided to put it up for auction. Regardless of whether the bid holds or not, this isn't surprising and certainly very plausible. I get it that you probably don't love hacks, some of us certainly do. I'm only into this for fun and my love for such names.
     
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  6. richardhope

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    Quite so. The sum is completely outrageous, however, when the very prospect of whether or not you actually own the domain is in question. And with the lamentable/non-existent ip laws that exist in Ethiopia, this most definitely is in question...

    You assume incorrectly. I absolutely love domain hacks and probably have one of the top 3 portfolio's in existence for this type of domain. Fake bids, however, help no one and people need to call them out when they see them...

    And I know you may think a $100K bid on "b.et" bodes well for your "n.et" domain, and that may be why you've said the things you've said to me today (?), but I really do think you must try to rise above any biased (vested) interest you may have here and comment as if you were a "dis-interested" party...
     
  7. DomainGaze.com

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    What do you think ccTLDs are used for if NOT making websites?

    If you were following this thread, you'd know I have been posting here in this thread about my appreciation for domain hacks for a while. This was before I owned a single .et domain. You're the one coming out being biased. I just made a simple post regarding an auction going well. You have to come in and quote me on that and say you doubt it. Every seller here has their interests and I know the line between my interests and what is informative for the forum. Do not jump to making such lame accusations. Every time any particular domain in a niche sells or gets an interesting offer, people with similar names would come out and appreciate it. Do you go out and quote them and say you're biased because of that? By your logic, I congratulated the guy who sold do.ge, do you think I own any similar .ge domains? I don't.

    I have hacks from over 32 different ccTLDs and some gTLDs with a total of 1 domain in .et and you're claiming I am being biased over it? I cited sales details and made clear arguments why these domains are valuable. And you're calling that biased? This is absolutely laughable that just because I disagree with you, I am being biased. As a domain hack enthusiast, I love all TLDs which provide possibilities of hacks. You're so experienced in this that you're possibly coming here with a new identity so you could post random stuff without any merit.
     
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  8. DomainGaze.com

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    Happy to hear you like hacks and have some great names. Yes, a fake bid will certainly not help anyone, but I don't know enough to assume one way or another.
     
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    got another one:

    win.gs is owned by redbull

    Funny to see that a NP member owned it back in 2006 --> thread
    Hope he sold it for big money and thats the reason why he wasn't online since 2009.
    :xf.grin:
     
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  10. richardhope

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    Win.gs is a nice name, and although the sub-set word (win) doesn't naturally relate to the expanded word hack (wings), it could relate to it... For example, "it's a big win when you get wings". A tenuous connection you might say, but I think it's noteworthy (and somewhat credible) all the same...
     
  11. DomainGaze.com

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    Haha, nice one! This one certainly deserves a mention.

    Coincidentally, I also recently landed on that domain and it was entertaining to see it being used by Red Bull! Now, it is a mystery if the original seller knew who he was selling it to! Hard to draw that connection. :-P

    Yes, if it adds to the meaning, it is even better. But it is still a win-win with the nice keyword.

    If you go to toothbru.sh, you'd find a page by some Google employee posting a few nice hacks that he/they kept for their own purposes.
     
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  12. DomainGaze.com

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    Correction -- It is a personal page on Google sites and not some Google employee. I never used sites.google in ages so got confused. :unsure:
     
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  13. richardhope

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    It would, likely, be very costly now to try to get a decent one word hack along with the exact match .com, so you might find that the next best option (and certainly a very credible one) is to consider a two word phrase in the .me extension, along with the exact match .com.

    e.g. affirm (.) me + affirmme (.) com

    (not mine, I am just giving an example)

    I have picked up a few hacks (with .com) of this kind of quality, as recently as the last few years. And such a strategy could entail paying existing owners for the .com, or perhaps waiting for certain names to drop, etc.. Or you may get lucky right away, and find a great 2-word phrase *like the one above* that's available now (or on the drop) for just reg fee...

    Of course, if you do manage to build a full (with .com) identity like that, you'll want to redirect the .com to the hack! ;)
     
  14. Alexej K

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    Just as an fyi. - after completing hosting migration, Nami.ng is now back up and running, with a directory of 390 domain hacks in active use.

    Thanks everyone for highlighting domain hacks on the last few pages, I'll review and add any new ones that are missing.

    Feel free to DM me as well.

    Al
     
  15. ritchu

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    I think their is a misconception in domaining that everything has a set value. If i develop jkjkjkjkjkjkj.com into a highly profitable site i could sell it. If i buy jkjkjkjkjkjk.com and try to sell it, I wont get a penny. You have to buy on instinct, develop and go from there. Right now the LLLL.com market is huge but that doesent mean one guy will pay the same for abcd.com as the next. So keep that in mind when looking for these set prices.
     

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