.tv TW.tv taken back by Verisign!

[Ammudamus]

As suspected, TW.tv was taken back by Verisign. I think this is as official as it is going to get about their model and process. FA.tv which is set to drop tomorrow will be taken back as well.

Thanks,
A

 

[Cate.tv]

I dropped TB.TV in 2010 and believe you picked it up through B/O (before I knew such things existed!) shortly after I dropped IG.TV which Verisign "took" - I think that might have been close to the beginning - curious as to when the last time was that someone was able to obtain the backorder on these LL ?

 

[Ammudamus]

Cate,
It's possible that is when it happened. As a side note, Michael Berkens does not have any ownership in TB.tv.

Kind Regards,
A

I dropped TB.TV in 2010 and believe you and Michael Berkens picked it up through B/O (before I knew such things existed!) shortly after I dropped IG.TV which Verisign "took" - I think that might have been close to the beginning - curious as to when the last time was that someone was able to obtain the backorder on these LL ?

 

[Cate.tv]

Thanks - Edited hope you get a great price for it one day I regged it to go along w TampaBay.TV yrs. ago which is also a legacy premium - still haven't found out who has the b/o on that one yet but who knows Verisign just might be picking up these Geos as well soon enough!

 

[Ammudamus]

My suspicion would be one of the larger GEO holders has the backorder on that name. You can ask.

Kind Regards,
A

Thanks - Edited hope you get a great price for it one day I regged it to go along w TampaBay.TV yrs. ago which is also a legacy premium - still haven't found out who has the b/o on that one yet but who knows Verisign just might be picking up these Geos as well soon enough!

 

[HeyNow]

.TV = Tuvalu = 3rd world country = few domainer rights. Domainer rights for .TV were relinquished to Verisign when control of that ccTLD when it was handed to Verisign for a few beads and trinkets.

 

[Ammudamus]

Not sure how I should comment to this.

.TV = Tuvalu = 3rd world country = few domainer rights. Domainer rights for .TV were relinquished to Verisign when control of that ccTLD when it was handed to Verisign for a few beads and trinkets.

 

[Keith]

Not sure how I should comment to this.

Not sure either but all the best domains are controlled by the registry or a handful of domainers. Same goes for the backorders...

Can't really grow into a worldwide brand that way :imho:

 

[Ammudamus]

Keith,
Totally disagree with you on that. We are such a small segment of the overall registry in terms of names registered of high quality and adoption by larger companies. There is enough evidence and threads on this forum to demonstrate that.

JMO

Best,
A

Not sure either but all the best domains are controlled by the registry or a handful of domainers. Same goes for the backorders...

Can't really grow into a worldwide brand that way :imho:

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I think many are glad that Verisign have started to hold on to the two-letter .tv names.

I'm sure most would rather see a large auction at a later date of available two-letter names than the system presently in place. This would certainly be better for endusers, the .tv extension as a grown-up brand, and for Versign themselves - who would achieve much better prices for the names.

Whether this will extend to names beyond two-letter domains we have yet to see. My own feeling is that they are achieving good money from the dropping premiums already and wouldn't want to unnecessarily kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

(although some names, such as auctions.tv have been already been held back - may 2012 to be exact)

If anything does surprise me, it is the fact that the majority of two-letter .tv backorders are still taken (although I see ON.tv is still available for the speedy amongst you). Perhaps some people have an idea this is simply a temporary state of affairs.

Whichever/whatever, it certainly makes .tv more interesting than the dull arse it's been over the past couple of years. It's seen so regularly boring and is such a normal part of the internet (and normal tv) that it is losing that edge that once made it exciting.

The only downside I see with .TV at the moment is not two-letter .tv names but that Verisign still persist on this ridiculous 'old premium' and 'new premium' system. They really need to work on making the whole of .tv a level playing field and more easily understood by the public.

If I never get another two-letter name again I will be happy with the few I presently own - and I would assume that those who are also fortunate to have acquired one or more would feel the same.










And for the trolls....

Domainer rights for .TV were relinquished to Verisign when control of that ccTLD when it was handed to Verisign for a few beads and trinkets.

Not sure how I should comment to this.

That's not like you Ammudamus to be stuck for words.
You could perhaps use the words of the same gentleman himself - put forth as fact by him exactly two years ago this month...

In 2000, Tuvalu negotiated a contract leasing its Internet domain name ".tv" for $50 million in royalties over a 12-year period.

That's some beads and trinkets!


Everyone has a right to an opinion, but you achieve much more respect if you use truth to make a point.

 

[Ammudamus]

With that being said, my honest opinion of the trolling is that it is useless and old commentary. Quite frankly, Verisign has said that they will be using the two letter .tv inventory for marketing purposes, which I have yet to find out after asking them for over a year. Who knows what it is?

All the other concerns about premium lock transfers, old legacy premiums, disclosures that cause ambiguity, etc have all been sent in a proposal to their main product manager.

As predicted, it is sitting there without any real action. It would really do everyone a service if the registry was managed by someone that really cared to push it along.

JMO.

A

I think many are glad that Verisign have started to hold on to the two-letter .tv names.

I'm sure most would rather see a large auction at a later date of available two-letter names than the system presently in place. This would certainly be better for endusers, the .tv extension as a grown-up brand, and for Versign themselves - who would achieve much better prices for the names.

Whether this will extend to names beyond two-letter domains we have yet to see. My own feeling is that they are achieving good money from the dropping premiums already and wouldn't want to unnecessarily kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.

(although some names, such as auctions.tv have been already been held back - may 2012 to be exact)

If anything does surprise me, it is the fact that the majority of two-letter .tv backorders are still taken (although I see ON.tv is still available for the speedy amongst you). Perhaps some people have an idea this is simply a temporary state of affairs.

Whichever/whatever, it certainly makes .tv more interesting than the dull arse it's been over the past couple of years. It's seen so regularly boring and is such a normal part of the internet (and normal tv) that it is losing that edge that once made it exciting.

The only downside I see with .TV at the moment is not two-letter .tv names but that Verisign still persist on this ridiculous 'old premium' and 'new premium' system. They really need to work on making the whole of .tv a level playing field and more easily understood by the public.

If I never get another two-letter name again I will be happy with the few I presently own - and I would assume that those who are also fortunate to have acquired one or more would feel the same.










And for the trolls....






That's not like you Ammudamus to be stuck for words.
You could perhaps use the words of the same gentleman himself - put forth as fact by him exactly two years ago this month...





That's some beads and trinkets!


Everyone has a right to an opinion, but you achieve much more respect if you use truth to make a point.

 

[Keith]

Keith,
Totally disagree with you on that. We are such a small segment of the overall registry in terms of names registered of high quality and adoption by larger companies. There is enough evidence and threads on this forum to demonstrate that.

JMO

Best,
A

But this small segment, that had a lock on all the top tier domains, is now crying foul. IMO it doesn't matter if 10 people control the domains or the registry.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

created new thread about fa.tv now being held back by verisign


https://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?p=4611309#post4611309