domains Transferring a .ai? You are not getting any years added

[equity78]

Kyle Tully posted on X that he paid $140 to transfer his .ai domain name to Spaceship. The name moved over, he paid $140 but even though the checkout showed (including one year renewal). Spaceship replied Hey there! We use this template for all transfers, regardless …

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[Zavian]

Spaceship needs to fix the template.

As is, it's false advertising. (including 1 year renewal).

No little buried disclaimer changes that fact.

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It's also misleading because of the fact that to register a .AI you need to pay for 2 years. So advertising a 1 year renewal is not correct when the standard is 2 years.

 

[bmugford]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831770612332720360

 

[Future Sensors]

It’s a short-sighted money-making venture. With a different business model, it could benefit the island more sustainably in the long term.

 

[silentg]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

 

[silentg]

They'll make more money if they operated their cctld just like how .com does. Lower the renewal and allow domains to be renewed when it's transferred.

 

[bmugford]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

I don't really understand the response.

All it is doing is making registrants pay a penalty to move their domain to their preferred registrar.

You are essentially paying for nothing.

Pandering to registrars at the expense of registrants is bad business IMO, especially long term.

There is a reason why pretty much every reputable registry operates the same way. AI is trying to reinvent the wheel.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

I can confirm that this business model lacks any form of intelligence for the long term, whether human or artificial.

 

[Zavian]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

I'm confused, why is the customer paying for the registrar to advertise the .AI extension? Shouldn't it be the registry that should be incentivising the registrar to advertise their extension?

 

[bmugford]

I'm confused, why is the customer paying for the registrar to advertise the .AI extension? Shouldn't it be the registry that should be incentivising the registrar to advertise their extension?

Good question.

Brad

 

[Altetra]

Lets force Spaceship to provide us evidence of how they pay that and for what, a live video please share to us all, so we see who took the 140$ and fore what exactly.
P.s. I used your Spaceship only to renew cheap my domains, I m not going to stay with you, another grabbers of my designs!

 

[Grilled]

What does this mean?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831735280883187937

Does that mean that the AI registry doesn't charge the registrar a transfer fee when a domain is moved from WHOIS.AI to another registrar?

Do registrars charge customers for moving a domain from WHOIS.AI to their registrar when that doesn't include a renewal?

 

[Future Sensors]

Interestingly, the .ai registry has been accusing GoDaddy (of all registrars) of issues with domain transfers into their platform.

https://domainincite.com/29678-ai-registry-advises-buyers-not-to-use-godaddy

 

[bmugford]

What does this mean?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831735280883187937

Does that mean that the AI registry doesn't charge the registrar a transfer fee when a domain is moved from WHOIS.AI to another registrar?

Do registrars charge customers for moving a domain from WHOIS.AI to their registrar when that doesn't include a renewal?

Where is the $140 going?

Either Spaceship is keeping it. For nothing.

Or, the registry is keeping it. For nothing.

Either way, the registrant just got ripped off for $140.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

It seems Vince Cate is waging a personal vendetta through his little AI kingdom.

Not that unusual for cryptography software developers, at all...

 

[dncafe]

I don't think it's bad to have high prices at the registry level. It keeps out a bunch of domainers like us, stops big spam networks from using your extensions and limits active .AI websites to real companies. Look what happened recently with .XYZ and all their .99 cent sales, which led to a ton of junk domains getting regged a devauling .XYZ as a whole.

I do think what Spaceship has done here is totally wrong though.

 

[bmugford]

It seems Vince Cate is waging a personal vendetta through his little AI kingdom.

Not that unusual for cryptography software developers, at all...

His comments would make it less likely for me to buy an .AI domain.

It's clear where the priorities lie, and it is not with registrants.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

It's clear where the priorities lie, and it is not with registrants.

That’s why it’s even stranger that he’s accusing GoDaddy, given how well they seem to fit.

 

[Future Sensors]

I only have one <3L>.ai domain and will probably not renew, now that I know the tricks played by the .ai registry.

 

[Grilled]

What does this mean?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831735280883187937

Does that mean that the AI registry doesn't charge the registrar a transfer fee when a domain is moved from WHOIS.AI to another registrar?

Do registrars charge customers for moving a domain from WHOIS.AI to their registrar when that doesn't include a renewal?

Can anybody confirm what happens when you transfer a .AI domain from WHOIS.AI to Spaceship?

If Spaceship is still charging a $140 fee, I'm wondering if that does include a renewal, since that's what their checkout says AND since spaceship isn't being charged a transfer fee from the .AI registry...

I'm basically wondering if transfers from WHOIS.AI include a renewal at most registrars (since the .AI registry doesn't charge a transfer fee) but transfers from any other registrar besides WHOIS.AI don't include a renewal because of the abnormal .AI registry transfer fee?

 

[pb]

Where is the $140 going?

Either Spaceship is keeping it. For nothing.

Or, the registry is keeping it. For nothing.

Either way, the registrant just got ripped off for $140.

For sure it's the registry, as all registrars have this fee (with no renewal).

[edit] sorry, didn't catch that your question was about the special case of whois.ai
In that case I'd guess the fee is consumed by the registrar, just as 99% don't reimburse us for the renewal fee returned by the gtld registry after a "too early" transfer.