domains Transferring a .ai? You are not getting any years added

[equity78]

Kyle Tully posted on X that he paid $140 to transfer his .ai domain name to Spaceship. The name moved over, he paid $140 but even though the checkout showed (including one year renewal). Spaceship replied Hey there! We use this template for all transfers, regardless …

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[Chris Hydrick]

It's kind of funny that Anguilla basically fell ass backwards into a windfall for their domain extension, then proceeds to be nothing but greedy.

Not that I support what the .AI registry is doing, but wouldn't devils advoCate argue they are just maximizing their profits (and subsequently raising Anguilla GDP) because the market interest is strong enough to support it?

If market (domainer) interest dies, then maybe the registry will think twice about its policies. But for now, why would .AI do away with this cash grab (if legal) just because some domainers are not happy with their abnormal policies?

It seems like it's a .ai thing.

Do you recall .TV do anything greedy or strange when they fell into their windfall?

 

[Future Sensors]

The junk drop is going to be epic, especially when you factor in the extremely high carrying costs.

Some of the brightest and most innovative AI companies have been investing in the island’s future, albeit indirectly. Hopefully, sustainable solutions have been developed to protect the island from a potential decline in living standards when .ai renewals and their associated revenue streams will start to rapidly decline.

Interestingly, Anguilla is home to the endangered Lesser Antillean iguana, which has a unique way of protecting itself: it can detach its tail to escape predators. So, while the island works on sustainable solutions, its wildlife has some clever tricks up their sleeves too.

 

[bmugford]

Not that I support what the .AI registry is doing, but wouldn't devils advoCate argue they are just maximizing their profits (and subsequently raising Anguilla GDP) because the market interest is strong enough to support it?

If market (domainer) interest dies, then maybe the registry will think twice about its policies. But for now, why would .AI do away with this cash grab (if legal) just because some domainers are not happy paying extra fees?

They can do whatever they want. They are riding the hype train now.

As consumers get sick of "AI" or the term just becomes superfluous, we will see what happens.

At the same time some transfer BS where you have to pay fees and not get an extra year renewal...What are you paying for exactly?

Brad

 

[Synozeer]

Interestingly, Anguilla is home to the endangered Lesser Antillean iguana, which has a unique way of protecting itself: it can detach its tail to escape predators. So, while the island works on sustainable solutions, its wildlife has some clever tricks up their sleeves too.

I think that applies to a lot of lizards. In Florida, anoles, geckos, skinks, etc. all do that. Just saying

 

[Daniel Owens]

They can do whatever they want. They are riding the hype train now.

As consumers get sick of "AI" or the term just becomes superfluous, we will see what happens.

At the same time some transfer BS where you have to pay fees and not get an extra year renewal...What are you paying for exactly?

Brad

I think you're paying for services that were only 50% rendered. Hopefully, registers make it a little more transparent about renewal not included in .ai transfer or better yet they start adding years. Brad what is the wholesale pricey the registry is charging them for .ai?

 

[silentg]

.ai registry needs to change this ASAP. What are you paying 2 year renewal for if the domain doesn't get renewed when transferred?

 

[bmugford]

Spaceship needs to fix the template.

As is, it's false advertising. (including 1 year renewal).

No little buried disclaimer changes that fact.

 

[DomainNature]

There are some ccTLD's which has such feature by default, no renewal after transfer.
I had such with some (.ro) domains, at least now I can renew them cheaper, under 10$ not 14€ at it's default (rotld,ro) registry.
For (.ai) it's a shame to ask so much, just for a transfer away.

 

[Future Sensors]

Has Spaceship already updated the misleading text now that they've been made aware of it?

 

[silentg]

They have this on transfer submit page in small grey font:

• After transfer completion, a 1-year renewal will be added to the top-level domains (TLDs) that are mandated by ICANN or the corresponding registry to be renewed. .ai, .uk, .co.uk, .me.uk, and .org.uk TLDs will not be renewed.
• The .ai registry charges a $140 fee for all .ai transfers. This fee is not imposed by Spaceship and is mandatory by the registry. It will be listed as the price, at the time of placing a transfer order.

 

[Future Sensors]

Thanks @silentg. Now it only has to be prominently mentioned during checkout.

 

[equity78]

Richard Kirkendall getting involved it seems

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831767260647587871

 

[silentg]

I like NameCheap and Dynadot because their CEOs get involved and fix issues.

 

[Future Sensors]

Richard Kirkendall getting involved it seems

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831767260647587871

Pretty good response.

 

[Daniel Owens]

I like NameCheap and Dynadot because their CEOs get involved and fix issues.

Spaceship and namecheap are same company. I would think responses are about the same. However, each has his own experience. Spaceship is new and a few bugs but overall, many domainers have flocked to it.

 

[Zavian]

Spaceship needs to fix the template.

As is, it's false advertising. (including 1 year renewal).

No little buried disclaimer changes that fact.

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It's also misleading because of the fact that to register a .AI you need to pay for 2 years. So advertising a 1 year renewal is not correct when the standard is 2 years.

 

[bmugford]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831770612332720360

 

[Future Sensors]

It’s a short-sighted money-making venture. With a different business model, it could benefit the island more sustainably in the long term.

 

[silentg]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

 

[silentg]

They'll make more money if they operated their cctld just like how .com does. Lower the renewal and allow domains to be renewed when it's transferred.

 

[bmugford]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

I don't really understand the response.

All it is doing is making registrants pay a penalty to move their domain to their preferred registrar.

You are essentially paying for nothing.

Pandering to registrars at the expense of registrants is bad business IMO, especially long term.

There is a reason why pretty much every reputable registry operates the same way. AI is trying to reinvent the wheel.

Brad

 

[Future Sensors]

I can confirm that this business model lacks any form of intelligence for the long term, whether human or artificial.

 

[Zavian]

Vince responded

https://twitter.com/x/status/1831769585030459819

I'm confused, why is the customer paying for the registrar to advertise the .AI extension? Shouldn't it be the registry that should be incentivising the registrar to advertise their extension?

 

[bmugford]

I'm confused, why is the customer paying for the registrar to advertise the .AI extension? Shouldn't it be the registry that should be incentivising the registrar to advertise their extension?

Good question.

Brad

 

[DomainNature]

Lets force Spaceship to provide us evidence of how they pay that and for what, a live video please share to us all, so we see who took the 140$ and fore what exactly.
P.s. I used your Spaceship only to renew cheap my domains, I m not going to stay with you, another grabbers of my designs!