The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Domainace]

Hamas is just a symptom of Israeli government policies, not the root cause of a war between nation states.

That's not entirely true. To the degree that it is, you could say that Hitler was a symptom of French/British policies. Should France and Britain have laid down their weapons in WW2?

There was hatred of Jews well preceding the Isaeli state. Britain carved up the region into states that gave no consideration to the local populations. But only one state, a tiny sliver of desert no less, got everyone upset. Why is that?

the aggressor since 1948 has been Israel, and it is also their demilitarization that is required for any peace process.

If, by aggression, you mean simply existing, that would be true. There is no doubt what would happen if Israel demilitarized. Again, ask why no states in the region want Palestinians from Gaza. Look at what happened to Jordon, Syria and, worst of all, formerly beautiful Lebanon for answers.

 

[JB Lions]

@Daniel Owens taste of what's coming:

Lands, a Democrat who ran on reproductive rights, flips seat in Alabama House​

"Marilyn Lands, who campaigned on abortion rights in deeply conservative Alabama, won a special election to the Alabama Legislature, in a victory that Democrats say illustrates voter backlash to extreme reproductive restrictions imposed by Republicans."

https://apnews.com/article/alabama-ivf-abortion-legislature-378c3fa32dcfc2d0401f3893828482af

MAGAs show up to rallies. Dems show up to vote. You want to take away our healthcare, marijuanadomain's Medicare and Social Security, women's reproductive rights, you're going to feel it in November.

 

[dna]

MAGAs show up to rallies. Dems show up to vote. You want to take away our healthcare, marijuanadomain's Medicare and Social Security, women's reproductive rights, you're going to feel it in November.

It is misleading to call killing unborn babies "women's reproductive rights." Why not be honest and call it what it is. And where did women get the right to kill unborn babies? It's not in the Constitution and the Supreme Court had no justification to give women a right that is not specified in the Constitution. The Supreme Court is not supposed to make laws. And Medicare and Social Security are not at risk. This has been a common Democratic lie for years. But I understand why Democrats say this. Without lies Democrats would have nothing to say.

 

[JB Lions]

It is misleading to call killing unborn babies "women's reproductive rights." Why not be honest and call it what it is. And where did women get the right to kill unborn babies? It's not in the Constitution and the Supreme Court had no justification to give women a right that is not specified in the Constitution. The Supreme Court is not supposed to make laws. And Medicare and Social Security are not at risk. This has been a common Democratic lie for years. But I understand why Democrats say this. Without lies Democrats would have nothing to say.

What a woman does with her body is none of your business. What’s sick is a woman could be raped or get pregnant via incest and you would force her to go thru with the pregnancy. I’m glad women will stand up this November along with other decent people and put you backward types in your place. And if you actually cared yourself you would have adopted some of those children yourself but you guys seem to vanish after birth. It’s not really about the kids, it’s about weak men wanting to control women

 

[marijuanadomain]

No Chaos? Have you seen the border with Mexico. Hunter Biden is going to jail. The democrats are using the justice system to attack Donald Trump just like Putin does. The Democrats are trying to remove the President of Israel from office to appease radical Democratic voters. Joe Biden takes bribes from China, an enemy country that is threatening Taiwan with invasion. Joe Biden's daughter has accused Joe of sexually abusing her in her diary.
Joe Biden is increasingly senile. The Attorney General says that no ID will be required in Federal Elections in order to give illegal immigrants the vote. We are fighting a proxy war with Russia that would have never happened if Donald Trump was president. We are fighting with Yemen's Houthi Rebels only because Joe Biden forced Saudi Arabia to stop fighting with them, by threatening to stop military supplies from going to Saudi Arabia.

All I care is my own pocketbook
I let you care about those foreign issues and the boarder crap

 

[Particle]

 

[Particle]

That's not entirely true. To the degree that it is, you could say that Hitler was a symptom of French/British policies.

Not a symptom. There was some level of direct support for Hitler by the British aristocracy (Queen Elizabeth II was photographed as a child learning the Nazi salute). Plus the German war machine was directly financed by Wall Street (particularly Prescott Bush’s bank, who was George W Bush’s grandfather).

Should France and Britain have laid down their weapons in WW2?

They did. When Germany laid down their weapons.

There was hatred of Jews well preceding the Isaeli state. Britain carved up the region into states that gave no consideration to the local populations. But only one state, a tiny sliver of desert no less, got everyone upset. Why is that?

The League of Nations did the initial carving up. Britain took on the mandate administration to keep the French out. The UN did the actual partitioning in 1947, and then the British withdrew during the 1948 Palestine War, which resulted in the modern state of Israel and the first Nakba. The Israeli’s created the first refugee problem by displacing 700,000 Palestinians in violation of the terms of the Balfour Declaration.

If, by aggression, you mean simply existing, that would be true. There is no doubt what would happen if Israel demilitarized. Again, ask why no states in the region want Palestinians from Gaza. Look at what happened to Jordon, Syria and, worst of all, formerly beautiful Lebanon for answers.

If you recognize the Israeli or Palestinian right to self-determination, why would you accept the creation of refugees by either side?

 

[Domainace]

Not a symptom. There was some level of direct support for Hitler by the British aristocracy (Queen Elizabeth II was photographed as a child learning the Nazi salute). Plus the German war machine was directly financed by Wall Street (particularly Prescott Bush’s bank, who was George W Bush’s grandfather).

That's irrelevant to the point.

The Israeli’s created the first refugee problem by displacing 700,000 Palestinians in violation of the terms of the Balfour Declaration.

Refugees have been created throughout history, and you ignore the Jewish refugees of the same period.

If you recognize the Israeli or Palestinian right to self-determination, why would you accept the creation of refugees by either side?

One has nothing to do with the other. The world is covered in refugees - always has been. Not a good thing, but a fact of life. I'm sure we both have ancestors who were refugees.

However, after a generation or two, refugee groups almost always move on and start new lives in whatever country they have gained refuge in. That's pretty much how America grew into what it became. A subsection of the Palestinians remains stuck where they are, seeking perpetual conflict in the dream of reversing history. This is prioritized over their children's future and the health of their society. They allow themselves to be used as tools to destabilize the region. (Something they have in common with Americans these days.)

There is not a piece of land on the planet that wasn't taken from someone else at some point. Maybe we should just all start killing each other so we can return to some specific point in history we may have preferred?

 

[Daniel Owens]

Trump left Biden with a good economy. The stock market is doing well because people think Trump is going to win 2024. Also, most voters are pro-life so that will help Trump win. Another thing people like less inflation, lower-taxes and a secure border which benefits Donald J. Trump. Trump 2024!

 

[marijuanadomain]

Trump left Biden with a good economy. The stock market is doing well because people think Trump is going to win 2024. Also, most voters are pro-life so that will help Trump win. Another thing people like less inflation, lower-taxes and a secure border which benefits Donald J. Trump. Trump 2024!

Trump is going to remove social security and Medicare

 

[Daniel Owens]

Biden is going to spend the government into bankruptcy which risks those programs. It drives up the debt when Biden forgives billions and billions of $'s of student loans. SS and medicare won't be touched we need congress for that, and no person would vote to remove it. For goodness sake the senate was unable to repeal obamacare how could they remove SS and medicare?

 

[Daniel Owens]

Biden is going to spend the government into bankruptcy which risks those programs. It drives up the debt when Biden forgives billions and billions of $'s of student loans. SS and medicare won't be touched we need congress for that, and no person would vote to remove it. For goodness sake the senate was unable to repeal obamacare how could they remove SS and medicare?

@marijuanadomain You can keep thinking how your thinking but no way will those programs go away. And, you seem obsessed with those programs.

 

[marijuanadomain]

@marijuanadomain You can keep thinking how your thinking but no way will those programs go away. And, you seem obsessed with those programs.

Social security and Medicare.. that all we seniors Care
And we paid for it and the Republicans and Trump going to take away

 

[JB Lions]

Trump left Biden with a good economy. The stock market is doing well because people think Trump is going to win 2024. Also, most voters are pro-life so that will help Trump win. Another thing people like less inflation, lower-taxes and a secure border which benefits Donald J. Trump. Trump 2024!

How many lies can you find in that post

Just got back from accountant, I feel ill. Government are some gangsters

 

[Daniel Owens]

Social security and Medicare.. that all we seniors Care
And we paid for it and the Republicans and Trump going to take away

The government didn't save what you paid in and the only reason the program hasn't gone bankrupt besides raising the age is because current workers are paying your check. Trump made no effort to get rid of it term #1, and I'm almost confidence enough to pay your check then again working has value. lol.

 

[Daniel Owens]

How many lies can you find in that post

Stating simple indisputable facts.

 

[JB Lions]

Stating simple indisputable facts.

Being left good economy and most being pro life are literally lies

 

[Daniel Owens]

Biden: 38% approve 58% disapprove Do you think the low approval and high disapproval rating of Joe Biden is going to make it hard for him to win?

 

[Daniel Owens]

@JB Lions So many voters are pro-life they elected Trump in 2016, then by the willing of the American people the Supreme Court overturned roe vs. wade sending abortion back to the states. Obama left Trump with a bad economy and he quickly cleaned up his mess and left Biden with a good stock market and economy, plus inflation was lower under Trump. The people flooding into the country illegally is going to cost Biden votes, then his huge spending.

 

[Daniel Owens]

@JB Lions So many voters are pro-life they elected Trump in 2016, then by the willing of the American people the Supreme Court overturned roe vs. wade sending abortion back to the states. Obama left Trump with a bad economy and he quickly cleaned up his mess and left Biden with a good stock market and economy, plus inflation was lower under Trump. The people flooding into the country illegally is going to cost Biden votes, then his huge spending.

Biden: 38% approve 58% disapprove Do you think the low approval and high disapproval rating of Joe Biden is going to make it hard for him to win?

@JB Lions What are your thoughts about Biden forgiving billions of dollars worth of student loans?

 

[Particle]

Biden is going to spend the government into bankruptcy which risks those programs. It drives up the debt when Biden forgives billions and billions of $'s of student loans.

That's complete nonsense. It costs nothing to eliminate federally underwritten student debt. It's just a ledger entry. Everyone has already been paid. Making the debt disappear also frees up disposable income and immediately boosts the economy.

 

[marijuanadomain]

The government didn't save what you paid in and the only reason the program hasn't gone bankrupt besides raising the age is because current workers are paying your check. Trump made no effort to get rid of it term #1, and I'm almost confidence enough to pay your check then again working has value. lol.

Trump and Republicans said they going to make changes to the social security and Medicare
And that bad news

 

[Daniel Owens]

Trump and Republicans said they going to make changes to the social security and Medicare
And that bad news

If you believe that you should go back to work and raise some funds for retirement!

 

[marijuanadomain]

If you believe that you should go back to work and raise some funds for retirement!

We seniors already paid into the systems and the money is ours to spend
And trump and Republicans going to take them away

 

[Daniel Owens]

We seniors already paid into the systems and the money is ours to spend
And trump and Republicans going to take them away

These entitlement programs have been around for a long time and are not going to go away.