The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Leading deaths of American's this year:

1) Tax Cuts.. literately Armageddon.

2) Net neutrality

3) NRA terrorist

3) Fight for SCOTUS

4) Russia! Russia! Russia!

Gratefully providential inspiration lead our founding fathers to create a republic, not a democracy. One branch of Gov can't "give" anything away without permission.

As a matter of fact, the President can't even make a reliable promise without permission from Congress. If you don't believe me, ask President Obama.

Also... if the democrats in DC, NY and hollywood hadn't been screaming at the top of their lungs about the President putting ketchup on his steak for two years, the rest of the country might care what you think. But you did and we don't.

 

[mr-x]

Why would POTUS not trust the FBI, DOJ, CIA?

Trying to rig an election against him?

Protecting his political opposition?

Slow walking information that would prove what really happened?

Understandable to be upset / curious why the President had a private meeting with Putin. If you think that's treason but don't care about what the Obama administration, the FBI and DOJ did to help Hillary and Hurt Trump, you're dishonest.

Obama traded terrorist for a deserter, then claimed the deserter served with distinction. His media spokespeople attacked / slandered the warriors that knew the truth and spoke out.

DOJ Inspector General's report showed obvious corruption favoring Hillary and opposing Trump but there has been no accountability.

FBI has a long history of political interference and corruption, including blackmailing Martin Luther King, urging him to committing suicide.

The CIA has overthrown democratic Governments for greed.

Obama openly interfered in foreign elections.

We need transparency, not partisan ranker. Demand the truth.

 

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[JB Lions]

If you think it's OK to use opposition research from political opponents for surveillance warrants, without telling the judge the source of the "documents"; you're probably dumb enough to think winning "the popular vote" matters but rigging the primary and "super delegates" are totes legit.

They did tell the source of the documents, we went over that earlier in the thread and it was only a small part.

We need transparency, not partisan ranker. Demand the truth.

The right keeps trying to interfere with that. It's an ongoing investigation. You guys have fired people, want people impeached, daily go after the Justice Department etc. And some of these people are Trump's own people.

 

[mr-x]

They did tell the source of the documents, we went over that earlier in the thread and it was only a small part.

Of course, I forgot you already know everything. We should disregard the lawyers and people who have read the documents but foolishly disagree with you.

Thus, the FISA application could easily have explained that the dossier research was paid for by “Candidate #2” and “Political Party #2,” meaning the Democrats.

And yet the FBI chose to describe the situation this way, in a footnote of a 400 page document: “Source #1…was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to Source #1 that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1’s ties to Russia…The identified U.S. person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo

The right keeps trying to interfere with that. It's an ongoing investigation. You guys have fired people, want people impeached, daily go after the Justice Department etc. And some of these people are Trump's own people.

These sick burns tho...

 

[JB Lions]

Of course, I forgot you already know everything. We should disregard the lawyers and people who have read the documents who disagree with you.

It's not from me. Just do a NP search, we already over this.

 

[mr-x]

Hey man, if JB Lions goes over something.. that's it.

 

[mr-x]

It's not from me. Just do a NP search, we already over this.

I honestly can't understand why VOX or Bustle hasn't hired you as their expert on everything yet.

 

[JB Lions]

I honestly can't understand why VOX or Bustle hasn't hired you as their expert on everything yet.

Instead of making 2 dumb replies (actually 3), you could have simply done the NP search like I suggested. Why you want to prove your laziness and stupidity over and over again is beyond me.

Again, we went over this in February. Again, there is a Namepros search. If you need help in how to use it, I will help you.

There is also this thing called Google, again, something use to search as well.

"Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions."

You don't get a warrant just on that. They disclosed the origins. Nunes admitted he didn't even read it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/05/fbi-footnote-carter-page-warrant-390795

Look at the lie you posted above:

"without telling the judge the source of the "documents"

while Republicans admitted:

"Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier"

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It's like you have no self control and the first thing you feel you need to do is reply as quickly as possible. Take a breath, actually read what I write. Then take a few minutes and do your own research. Before you post, read it over a few times to see if it makes sense, then read it again before hitting the post button.

 

[mr-x]

Yesterday, the Department of Justice released a heavily redacted version of the FISA warrant used to put former Trump campaign staffer Carter Page under electronic surveillance. There is a lot we don’t know about the warrant but what we do know does not build confidence in the process.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/20...-says-carter-page-fisa-warrant-based-garbage/

FBI makes a big show to federal judge about how it closed Steele out as a confidential source after learning of his disclosures to the press. So what did FBI do? It used DOJ official Bruce Ohr as a back channel to Steele.
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Reassuring to know the FBI relies on flimsy, incomplete news stories to win warrants to wiretap US citizens. http://no_url_shorteners/WZy430l3GKP and http://no_url_shorteners/G3uY30l3GKW
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[mr-x]

JB Lions isn't going to let facts get in the way of a good rant because he's already "gone over this" you dumb asses.

Instead of making 2 dumb replies (actually 3), you could have simply done the NP search like I suggested. Why you want to prove your laziness and stupidity over and over again is beyond me.

Again, we went over this in February. Again, there is a Namepros search. If you need help in how to use it, I will help you.

There is also this thing called Google, again, something use to search as well.

"Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier the bureau cited in an application to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, undermining a controversial GOP memo released Friday and fueling Democratic demands to declassify more information about the bureau’s actions."

You don't get a warrant just on that. They disclosed the origins. Nunes admitted he didn't even read it.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/05/fbi-footnote-carter-page-warrant-390795

Look at the lie you posted above:

"without telling the judge the source of the "documents"

while Republicans admitted:

"Republican leaders are acknowledging that the FBI disclosed the political origins of a private dossier"

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It's like you have no self control and the first thing you feel you need to do is reply as quickly as possible. Take a breath, actually read what I write. Then take a few minutes and do your own research. Before you post, read it over a few times to see if it makes sense, then read it again before hitting the post button.

 

[JB Lions]

JB Lions isn't going to let facts get in the way of a good rant because he's already "gone over this" you dumb asses.

You didn't really post anything new to dispute the facts I posted earlier. You read some opinions on some right leaning sites as usual. 4 Republican judges over 2 administrations approved these warrants. Sorry for that reality.

These sick burns tho...

You, Trump and his followers must be feeling the burn. You got played by Kim, thinking he was going to denuke, even tho it was pointed out he made these promises before. With stuff like this, there should be a timetable, different steps to be taken to denuke. It should be step 1 by (date). They went in with no plan, unprepared, gullible. Now Trump is walking around fuming that progress isn't being made. So he's failing on the big stage. Getting played by both Kim and Putin.

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Gowdy: Trump advisers should consider quitting over Russia
The South Carolina Republican chastised Trump for inviting Putin to Washington this fall.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/22/gowdy-trump-putin-russia-735558

 

[mr-x]

Maybe you should go over this one more time, for the children.

Trey Gowdy, who has read the unredacted FISA application for monitoring Carter Page, said today, the warrant was obtained using opposition research paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

FISA Warrant is covered at 4:50. "Every one who see's this FISA application, see's the amount of reliance they placed on this product funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign."

How the FBI hide the source of the document.. by masking the source, included a footnote of a 400 page application.

Readers will search the FISA application in vain for any specific mention of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign funding of the dossier. For the most part, names were not used in the application, but Donald Trump was referred to as “Candidate #1,” Hillary Clinton was referred to as “Candidate #2,” and the Republican Party was referred to as “Political Party #1.” Thus, the FISA application could easily have explained that the dossier research was paid for by “Candidate #2” and “Political Party #2,” meaning the Democrats. And yet the FBI chose to describe the situation this way, in a footnote: “Source #1…was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to Source #1 that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1’s ties to Russia…The identified U.S. person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo

DON'T TELL @JB Lions....

You didn't really post anything new to dispute the facts I posted earlier. You read some opinions on some right leaning sites as usual. 4 Republican judges over 2 administrations approved these warrants. Sorry for that reality.



You, Trump and his followers must be feeling the burn. You got played by Kim, thinking he was going to denuke, even tho it was pointed out he made these promises before. With stuff like this, there should be a timetable, different steps to be taken to denuke. It should be step 1 by (date). They went in with no plan, unprepared, gullible. Now Trump is walking around fuming that progress isn't being made. So he's failing on the big stage. Getting played by both Kim and Putin.

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Gowdy: Trump advisers should consider quitting over Russia
The South Carolina Republican chastised Trump for inviting Putin to Washington this fall.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/22/gowdy-trump-putin-russia-735558

 

[JB Lions]

Maybe you should go over this one more time, for the children.

Trey Gowdy, who has read the unredacted FISA application for monitoring Carter Page, said today, the warrant was obtained using opposition research paid for by the Clinton Campaign.

Another video you didn't watch. Going over the same stuff went over in Feb. It's the same stuff from Feb - https://www.investors.com/politics/...by-hillary-clinton-as-reason-to-spy-on-trump/

Pay attention. You can just go reread the posts we had here.

 

[mr-x]

Another video you didn't watch. Going over the same stuff went over in Feb.

Are you really that dense or just determined to have the last word?

 

[JB Lions]

Are you really that dense or just determined to have the last word?

Do you really lack self awareness? You just dig yourself in a bigger hole each time. I just linked to an article from Feb making the same points. You guys are just losing and grasping at straws. Again, just go reread the post from Feb. We already went thru it all.

Look what you just posted, then look at the title from Feb:

Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

And all that bs, AGAIN, was taken apart in Feb. It's like you like losing twice on the exact same subject. Hold this.............L

This is what we call a flat Earther. Even when you prove the earth is round, they will insist it is flat.

Does he believe it's flat? Who cares.

Why don't you do something useful like counting the people killed when the USA pulled out of the Paris climate agreement

Don't pretend to be Mr. Scientist now, your type doesn't even believe dinosaurs existed or try to deny climate change, from just the other day.

4 posts in a row below, clearly flustered. Post 4 repeating 3 and 2 and then borrowing from another post on previous page. Repeating himself, talking about stuff we already talked about in Feb.

3 of the posts below literally have the same content. Mr. Copy and Paste from bs sites, without reading or watching the videos he posts. Usual stuff.

 

[mr-x]

This is what we call a flat Earther. Even when you prove the earth is round, they will insist it is flat.

Does he believe it's flat? Who cares.

Do you really lack self awareness? You just dig yourself in a bigger hole each time. I just linked to an article from Feb making the same points. You guys are just losing and grasping at straws. Again, just go reread the post from Feb. We already went thru it all.

 

[mr-x]

Still going over that shit huh? How many FISA warrants did the FBI ask for? How many of those warrants did they lie about the source?

Does it matter if you tell the Judge the source of your information, if your using a middle man ( Ohr ) for the source? In other words.. LYING?

Why don't you do something useful like counting the people killed when the USA pulled out of the Paris climate agreement ( the one Obama was to lazy to get congress to approve ) ?

From Washington Examiner:

Readers will search the FISA application in vain for any specific mention of the DNC, Clinton campaign, or any party/campaign funding of the dossier. For the most part, names were not used in the application, but Donald Trump was referred to as “Candidate #1,” Hillary Clinton was referred to as “Candidate #2,” and the Republican Party was referred to as “Political Party #1.”

Thus, the FISA application could easily have explained that the dossier research was paid for by “Candidate #2” and “Political Party #2,” meaning the Democrats.

And yet the FBI chose to describe the situation this way, in a footnote: “Source #1…was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to Source #1 that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding Candidate #1’s ties to Russia…The identified U.S. person hired Source #1 to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised Source #1 as to the motivation behind the research into Candidate #1’s ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo

Do you really lack self awareness? You just dig yourself in a bigger hole each time. I just linked to an article from Feb making the same points. You guys are just losing and grasping at straws. Again, just go reread the post from Feb. We already went thru it all.

Look what you just posted, then look at the title from Feb:

Memo: FBI Used Tainted Steele Dossier, Paid For By Hillary Clinton, As Reason To Spy On Trump

And all that bs, AGAIN, was taken apart in Feb. It's like you like losing twice on the exact same subject. Hold this.............L


Don't pretend to be Mr. Scientist now, your type doesn't even believe dinosaurs existed or try to deny climate change, from just the other day.