The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[GILSAN]

Homosexuals already have the same rights that heteros have. Any gay woman can marry a man and any gay man can marry a woman. Those are the same rights that straights have.

Why then do homosexuals want more rights than the rest of the population?

Homosexuals Against Gay Marriage

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8N2nGavCKA"]Homosexuals Against Gay Marriage - YouTube[/ame]

 

[verbster]

Homosexuals already have the same rights that heteros have. Any gay woman can marry a man and any gay man can marry a woman. Those are the same rights that straights have.

Why then do homosexuals want more rights than the rest of the population?

They're trying to expand everyone's rights, if you look at it that way. They are fighting to give everyone the right to marry any other consenting adult, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. That would be equality.

 

[Theo Goodman]

Hey GILSAN,
Does homosexuality cause chld molestation?
Does gay marrage cause child molestation?
What threat does gay marrage pose to you?
Where is the information that homosexuals molest children more than heterosexuals?

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Homosexual preists are more likely to molest boys.
Heterosexual priests are more likely to molest girls.
That is an amazing argument , but what does it show?
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Who here is defending "the media" et at? What is the point by talking about the "MSN" so often? Should people bring up FOX, Rush, and Beck in every post?

 

[GILSAN]

In the "NP's Religious Thread" most people were revolted and upset about teaching religion or that a painting of Jesus had remained in a public school for 65 years, yet everyone in this thread is OK with Homosexuality and Gay Marriage being taught in Public Schools against the wish of parents.

This is really nothing more than brainwashing and confusing children from the age of 5, 6 years old and to me it's the height of hypocrisy and it's all part of the Gay Lobby and Liberal agenda to force their beliefs onto everyone else, no matter the consequences.

So it's no good to teach religion but it's fine to teach homosexuality?

How about: "Sibling Incest Class Offered At University Of Missouri" Oh isn't that such a nice, interesting subject to teach?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/11/sibling-incest-class_n_2457691.html

How to jam homosexuality into public schools: Just call it "safety"!!
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7MzM8ABzCk"]How to jam homosexuality into public schools: Just call it "safety"!! - YouTube[/ame]

Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools (Part 1 of 2)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZIwZ2cljq4"]Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]

Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools (Part 2 of 2)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ9xdWIatVA"]Homosexuals brainwashing our children in elementary schools (Part 2 of 2) - YouTube[/ame]

---------- Post added at 07:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:28 AM ----------

They're trying to expand everyone's rights, if you look at it that way. They are fighting to give everyone the right to marry any other consenting adult, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. That would be equality.

Then in that case why can't a man marry many women or vice verse? Someday Pedophiles will also be demanding their rights, by asking for the age of consent to be lowered, just like some gay organizations are trying to change.

---------- Post added at 07:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:35 AM ----------

Where is the information that homosexuals molest children more than heterosexuals?
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Homosexual preists are more likely to molest boys.
Heterosexual priests are more likely to molest girls.
That is an amazing argument , but what does it show?

One third of all child molestation cases are BOYS. It's more than obvious that the other two thirds (GIRLS) is committed mostly by heterosexual men, most of which are family members or close acquaintances of those girls. A smaller quantity is committed by Pedophiles

Now I have a question to you and everyone here about the other third (the BOYS) Who is more likely to molest them? is it heterosexual men or homosexual men? Again taking into consideration that a smaller quantity is committed by Pedophiles.

Of the three (Homosexual, Pedophile and Heterosexual) who is more attracted to boys? Isn't the answer pretty obvious?

 

[Theo Goodman]

Where are you getting these numbers about 1/3 2/3 ect.
Since the answer to your question is "obvious" then there is no need to answer. However I have 3 quesitons that still get at the fundemental issue at hand. Lets go there before going off on tangents like what should or should not be taught at school.

How will gay marrage increace said numbers?(the 1/3 that you put forward)
Do you think that homosexuality is natural?
Do you think that is -causes- abuse and molestation?
Really you can save a lot of time by just answering these questions. Otherwise there is just dancing around these 3 issues.

 

[JB Lions]

He can't answer any of those questions.

When Gilsan hears gay or gay marriage, the first things that pop into his head are man on man gay sex, or child molestation for some reason. And only boy child molestation.

He keeps throwing around this 1/3 number for some reason as if that's some reason against gays getting married. Well, last time I checked, 2/3 > 1/3, so if that's a reason against gay marriage, he's making a bigger argument against straight marriage.

Back to the man on man stuff that keeps popping into his head. If gay marriage is legal, it's going to be about half women marrying women. I'm not sure how boy child molestation fits into that. Or how it fits into marriage period. It's hard understanding the homophobic mind, nothing but fear and ignorance.

And to this day, he's yet to tell anybody how gay marriage, legal in his country of Portugal, affected him or his nation. If the stuff he posted was real, this should be easy for him.

 

[GILSAN]

Where are you getting these numbers about 1/3 2/3 ect.
Since the answer to your question is "obvious" then there is no need to answer. However I have 3 quesitons that still get at the fundemental issue at hand. Lets go there before going off on tangents like what should or should not be taught at school.

How will gay marrage increace said numbers?(the 1/3 that you put forward)
Do you think that homosexuality is natural?
Do you think that is -causes- abuse and molestation?
Really you can save a lot of time by just answering these questions. Otherwise there is just dancing around these 3 issues.

Why bother to ask me questions when the brainwashed JB Lions who thinks he knows everything will answer them. Just ask him.

Any way whats with all the questions? If you had bothered to read my posts you would have found the answers there, besides, the few times I ask questions very few people answer, but it doesn't really bother me if I get an answer or not.

For any further questions, just ask the ignorant JB Lions and get his biased brainwashed answer.

 

[Kate]

And to this day, he's yet to tell anybody how gay marriage, legal in his country of Portugal, affected him or his nation. If the stuff he posted was real, this should be easy for him.

It could be for religious reasons strictly. A dogma is not open to discussion.
Religious groups are the most vocal opponents to societal reforms such as same sex marriage, abortion or euthanasia for example. Legislative advances of that kind are a sign that religion is losing grip over society, triggering some sort of knee-jerk reaction.

There are things I don't like/understand either. For example, I don't have religious faith, and I don't truly understand why some people have religious beliefs or believe in fortunetelling. But it doesn't bother me.
All the married persons whom I know didn't ask for my permission, and I wasn't consulted either to approve or veto their personal choices.

 

[Theo Goodman]

" Of the three (Homosexual, Pedophile and Heterosexual) who is more attracted to boys? Isn't the answer pretty obvious? "
homosexual.
"Why bother to ask me questions when the brainwashed JB Lions who thinks he knows everything will answer them."`?
Because rather than go back and forth like on the playground "your ugly, no your ugly" I am asking direct questions without talking !"$§.
The reason is to understand what you mean. That is normaly what happens during conversation or discussion. I asked an amazing 3 questions.
"1.How will gay marrage increace said numbers?(the 1/3 that you put forward)
2.Do you think that homosexuality is natural?
3.Do you think that it -causes- abuse and molestation? "
These are the fundemetal questions, without answering I dont see how the discussion has any point.

1. It wont have any effect or a small postive one.
2. Yes
3. No

See that was very easy, didnt hurt and did not take long.
Now where do you stand?
Other tangents about what is taught in school, issues within different church denomonations or what TV network said what should saved for another time. After the 3 question quiz is finished.

 

[GILSAN]

The reason is to understand what you mean. That is normaly what happens during conversation or discussion. I asked an amazing 3 questions.
"1.How will gay marrage increace said numbers?(the 1/3 that you put forward)
2.Do you think that homosexuality is natural?
3.Do you think that it -causes- abuse and molestation? "
These are the fundemetal questions, without answering I dont see how the discussion has any point.

1. It wont have any effect or a small postive one.
2. Yes
3. No

See that was very easy, didnt hurt and did not take long.
Now where do you stand?
Other tangents about what is taught in school, issues within different church denomonations or what TV network said what should saved for another time. After the 3 question quiz is finished.

What is this? The Inquisition demanding answers to questions? You want the answers then go back and read my posts. You'll find the answers there.

If you don't like that then ask JB Lions and he will answer even without asking and he'll give you the answers you want to hear. Careful though, because he's a mind reader and that could be dangerous.

In the mean time here's a link with many entertaining pictures of the annual Folsom Street Fair in San Fransisco, where I'm sure you'll find lots of wonderful mothers and fathers that any adoptive child would love to have.

http://www.zombietime.com/folsom_sf_2007_part_1/index.php

I wonder what do you think of those religious Dildos? They have them in all religions except for Islam. Wonder why?

BTW, you don't have to answer these questions

I'm sure some day soon you'll be able to see a similar Fair in a city near you.

 

[Kate]

Folsom again ?

http://www.namepros.com/771268-france-set-ban-words-mother-father-2.html#post4388143

 

[verbster]

Alaska is trying to pass some dingbat law that makes it a felony to enforce any federal gun laws.

 

[Theo Goodman]

"What is this? The Inquisition demanding answers to questions? "
No, Just looking for clarifcation. Simple easy to read without talk of dildos and whatnot.
Thats it. If you cant clearly say what you think, then I dont really understand the point of discussion.
What is this? A geometric shape with people moving in up and down motions?
If you dont think homosexuality is natural and that it causes molestation then why try to convince you otherwise? Its clear that you have made up your mind and that it has no basis on evidence but rather at least a large % on faith, which is ok, but I just dont agree with you on this subject.
Why no dildos like the ones you posted in islamic countries? Probaly a faith based decision or a liberal conspiracy to destroy christianity , you decide.

 

[Kate]

IMO religious people are sick and religion is evil because of the disproportionate amount of child molesters among priests

 

[GILSAN]

"What is this? The Inquisition demanding answers to questions? "
No, Just looking for clarifcation. Simple easy to read without talk of dildos and whatnot.
Thats it. If you cant clearly say what you think, then I dont really understand the point of discussion.
What is this? A geometric shape with people moving in up and down motions?
If you dont think homosexuality is natural and that it causes molestation then why try to convince you otherwise? Its clear that you have made up your mind and that it has no basis on evidence but rather at least a large % on faith, which is ok, but I just dont agree with you on this subject.
Why no dildos like the ones you posted in islamic countries? Probaly a faith based decision or a liberal conspiracy to destroy christianity , you decide.

I've said it before and I'll repeat it again. I have no problems with gays having Civil Unions with all the rights afforded to everyone, but Marriage is between MAN & WOMAN, simple as that. When a gay man can give birth to a baby, then I'll change my mind.

The real goal of the radical homosexual agenda, with the help of the MSM is to destroy the real meaning of marriage, to attack religion and traditional values. It's like counterfeit money; all it does is dilute the value of a currency.

Why aren't Christian values permitted to be taught in public schools, whereas homosexuality is being shoved down kids throats, starting at the tender age of 5 and 6?

Finally will some one please explain to me, how having sex with another man's rear end is normal? That orifice's principal function is to rid the body of toxic waste. No wonder they are such a high risk group in AIDS, Hepatitis A, B & C; many kinds of sexually transmitted diseases; anal cancer etc. all thanks to their promiscuous lifestyle

You said "Why no dildos like the ones you posted in islamic countries?": I suggest you go back and read the post because I did NOT say that. You are changing the meaning of my question

 

[Keith]

When a gay man can give birth to a baby, then I'll change my mind.

Finally will some one please explain to me, how having sex with another man's rear end is normal?

Some women can't have children. Some straight couples choose to have no children. Should they be confined to a civil union too?

Men have anal sex with other men but also with women. What don't you understand?

 

[Theo Goodman]

"ou said "Why no dildos like the ones you posted in islamic countries?": I suggest you go back and read the post because I did NOT say that. You are changing the meaning of my question"
Yes I did , I am sorry for mixing humor with serisousness sometimes. I am pulling your leg a bit.
Of course the reason that their is not a dildo for Islam at the sales booth -could- be out of respect, I guess you would have to ask the producers. More likely it has to do with lack of market. I dont know, but its purely speculation.
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"I've said it before and I'll repeat it again. I have no problems with gays having Civil Unions with all the rights afforded to everyone, but Marriage is between MAN & WOMAN, simple as that. When a gay man can give birth to a baby, then I'll change my mind."

So as long as its not called "marrage" but has 100% the same status, laws, ect then your ok with it? Is the purpose of marriage to have children? There are plenty of heterosexual couples that dont want or cant have children, yet are married.


"The real goal of the radical homosexual agenda, with the help of the MSM is to destroy the real meaning of marriage, to attack religion and traditional values. It's like counterfeit money; all it does is dilute the value of a currency."

What is the so called "radical homosexual agenda"? What do you mean "- the REAL meaning of marriage2-? Child bearing?
Attack reglion? Which one? Really? -Attack- by wanting to be able to use a church for a ritual?
Is love a traditional value?

"Why aren't Christian values permitted to be taught in public schools, whereas homosexuality is being shoved down kids throats, starting at the tender age of 5 and 6?"
Where is this happening?? The shoving down the throat part. If you want to have a school that teaches your religion then thats fine. Home teach or go to a private school, public is not one religion or another, or at least it shouldnt be. (of course they are teaching a religion, the evil LIBERAL GAY relgion!, right? )
"Finally will some one please explain to me, how having sex with another man's rear end is normal? That orifice's principal function is to rid the body of toxic waste. No wonder they are such a high risk group in AIDS, Hepatitis A, B & C; many kinds of sexually transmitted diseases; anal cancer etc. all thanks to their promiscuous lifestyle"
To continue the question trend.
Does having intercourse in one hole as opposed to another increace the risk of AIDS?
Perhaps anal cancer, maybe.
Best part "their promiscuous lifestyle"
um, so homosexuals are MORE promiscuous as heterosexuals? Maybe in the Glen Beck- Fox- Rush trinity.

and the final:
""Finally will some one please explain to me, how having sex with another man's rear end is normal? "
Well , that would depend on purpouse. If the purpose is to have children, then it makes no sense, becuase, it wont work. If the purpose is pleasure, then why not. What about this other opening in the body, that hetero and homo enjoy. Its function could -never- be to conceive children but many hetero and homo use it daily, how is that "normal"? In any case it would come down to what you think the "true" meaning of intercourse is, function or pleasure, or both. / the school thing needs looking into, honestly other than random youtube videos I dont see it systematicly, but hey, I am no research mahcine.

 

[GILSAN]

Some women can't have children. Some straight couples choose to have no children. Should they be confined to a civil union too?

Men have anal sex with other men but also with women. What don't you understand?

What pleasure can a man have of having anal sex with a woman when he has a nice wet p--sy to choose from? I can only assume that you watch too much porn if that's what turns you on.

What a bunch of sick weirdos that prefer a dirty sh--hole to a nice p--sy. No class, no fuc-ing class at all

 

[Keith]

What pleasure can a man have of having anal sex with a woman when he has a nice wet p--sy to choose from? I can only assume that you watch too much porn if that's what turns you on.

What a bunch of sick weirdos that prefer a dirty sh--hole to a nice p--sy. No class, no fuc-ing class at all

Ah I see. You're basically stuck in your own little world. What's good for you is the only way and nobody should step outside the box or else...

 

[GILSAN]

Ah I see. You're basically stuck in your own little world. What's good for you is the only way and nobody should step outside the box or else...

I'm part of the vast majority in this planet that prefers a nice Pu-sy to a Dirty Sh--hole, but if that's your thing, so be it. :lol:

Why choose a shitty, rusty, dirty car when you can have a Mercedes or a BMW?