The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

This is going to make @JB Lions day.

While President Trump’s approval rating continues to maintain his record highs, two new polls show a tremendous gap opening between Democrats and Republicans on the generic Congressional ballot. Quinnipiac and Kaiser both have Democrats ahead by 12 points; the Real Clear Politics poll average places Democrats ahead by 7.8 points.

 

[urljunky]

Unemployment rate is the lowest in???
5 years?
10 years?
50 years?
History?

 

[urljunky]

How many elections has the U.S.A. meddled in?

 

[mr-x]

EU makes trade concessions to avoid more tit for tat tariffs.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/33584/another-major-win-trump-gets-concessions-eu-stock-hank-berrien

 

[JB Lions]

Unemployment rate is the lowest in???
5 years?
10 years?
50 years?
History?

Of course it went from 3.8% to 4.0% last update, going back up. Recession due next year.

This is going to make @JB Lions day.

While President Trump’s approval rating continues to maintain his record highs, two new polls show a tremendous gap opening between Democrats and Republicans on the generic Congressional ballot. Quinnipiac and Kaiser both have Democrats ahead by 12 points; the Real Clear Politics poll average places Democrats ahead by 7.8 points.

As expected.

Not sure what you mean by record high, last month it was 45%, this month 42% - https://news.gallup.com/poll/203207...k_newsv9&g_campaign=item_201617&g_medium=copy

And it's basically been more disapprove than approve his whole term.

Then average, 42.9, when he's had it in the 44's before - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Obama was higher:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

Lowest he had in his first term was 46.5, last time I looked 46.5 > 42.9

 

[GILSAN]

How many elections has the U.S.A. meddled in?

One study indicated that the country intervening in most foreign elections is the United States with 81 interventions, followed by Russia (including the former Soviet Union) with 36 interventions from 1946 to 2000 - an average of once in every nine competitive elections

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_electoral_intervention

Overthrowing other people’s governments: The Master List
By William Blum

Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)

• China 1949 to early 1960s
• Albania 1949-53
• East Germany 1950s
• Iran 1953 *
• Guatemala 1954 *
• Costa Rica mid-1950s
• Syria 1956-7
• Egypt 1957
• Indonesia 1957-8
• British Guiana 1953-64 *
• Iraq 1963 *
• North Vietnam 1945-73
• Cambodia 1955-70 *
• Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
• Ecuador 1960-63 *
• Congo 1960 *
• France 1965
• Brazil 1962-64 *
• Dominican Republic 1963 *
• Cuba 1959 to present
• Bolivia 1964 *
• Indonesia 1965 *
• Ghana 1966 *
• Chile 1964-73 *
• Greece 1967 *
• Costa Rica 1970-71
• Bolivia 1971 *
• Australia 1973-75 *
• Angola 1975, 1980s
• Zaire 1975
• Portugal 1974-76 *
• Jamaica 1976-80 *
• Seychelles 1979-81
• Chad 1981-82 *
• Grenada 1983 *
• South Yemen 1982-84
• Suriname 1982-84
• Fiji 1987 *
• Libya 1980s
• Nicaragua 1981-90 *
• Panama 1989 *
• Bulgaria 1990 *
• Albania 1991 *
• Iraq 1991
• Afghanistan 1980s *
• Somalia 1993
• Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
• Ecuador 2000 *
• Afghanistan 2001 *
• Venezuela 2002 *
• Iraq 2003 *
• Haiti 2004 *
• Somalia 2007 to present
• Honduras 2009 *
• Libya 2011 *
• Syria 2012
• Ukraine 2014 *

 

[E-Promote]

Affair number two. How many more will we be finding out about and this one during his wife's pregnancy. Now that's class, modern republican class, which is in a "class" of it's own

Evangelicals that are still clinging to this Adulterer in Chief, you must be so proud electing such a slime to represent you and your morals. Oh wait, that's right, you never cared about morality you just cared about power and money. Well enjoy the ride you are taking now to the bottom of the barrel, I'm sure Jesus is very proud of you.

 

[urljunky]

you must be so proud electing such a slime

I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but how many of our presidents have committed adultery?

 

[E-Promote]

I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but how many of our presidents have committed adultery?

Plenty I am sure, I am simply commenting on the arrogance and hypocrisy of the evangelical right.

 

[JB Lions]

I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary, but how many of our presidents have committed adultery?

Others have but I don't remember while their wife was pregnant, then cheating with a porn star and Playboy model without wearing a rubber (stupid), then all this:

We know he lied about the 2 just mentioned and they were telling the truth, do you think all these people lied?

• 4 Public allegations of unwanted physical contact since 2016
  • 4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
  • 4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
  • 4.3 Cathy Heller (1997)
  • 4.4 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
  • 4.5 Karena Virginia (1998)
  • 4.6 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
  • 4.7 Rachel Crooks (2005)
  • 4.8 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
  • 4.9 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
  • 4.10 Jessica Drake (2006)
  • 4.11 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
  • 4.12 Cassandra Searles (2013)
• 5 Allegations of pageant dressing room visits
  • 5.1 Miss Teen USA contestants
  • 5.2 Bridget Sullivan (2000)
  • 5.3 Tasha Dixon (2001)
  • 5.4 Unnamed contestants (2001)
  • 5.5 Samantha Holvey (2006)

 

[urljunky]

Iraq 1963

We helped Suddam get power and then had to hunt him down and kill him.

 

[urljunky]

Others have but I don't remember while their wife was pregnant, then cheating with a porn star and Playboy model without wearing a rubber (stupid), then all this:

• 4 Public allegations of unwanted physical contact since 2016
  • 4.1 Jessica Leeds (1980s)
  • 4.2 Kristin Anderson (1990s)
  • 4.3 Cathy Heller (1997)
  • 4.4 Temple Taggart McDowell (1997)
  • 4.5 Karena Virginia (1998)
  • 4.6 Mindy McGillivray (2003)
  • 4.7 Rachel Crooks (2005)
  • 4.8 Natasha Stoynoff (2005)
  • 4.9 Juliet Huddy (2005 or 2006)
  • 4.10 Jessica Drake (2006)
  • 4.11 Ninni Laaksonen (2006)
  • 4.12 Cassandra Searles (2013)
• 5 Allegations of pageant dressing room visits
  • 5.1 Miss Teen USA contestants
  • 5.2 Bridget Sullivan (2000)
  • 5.3 Tasha Dixon (2001)
  • 5.4 Unnamed contestants (2001)
  • 5.5 Samantha Holvey (2006)

Not saying he is not a womanizer, just saying he is not the first womanizer.

 

[JB Lions]

Not saying he is not a womanizer, just saying he is not the first womanizer.

We can crown him tho, and sexually assaulting women is not womanizing. Sexualizing your own kids, not womanizing. Hanging out with Pedos, not womanizing. Walking in on underage girls while undressing, not womanizing. Fantasizing about dating young girls as they go up the escalator, not womanizing. It's just sick pervert type stuff.

 

[E-Promote]

This is the first tape of twelve. Tip of the iceberg if you ask me. Prepare for the iceberg.

 

[urljunky]

What i can't wrap my head around is how can they release these tapes?
1st - it's illegal to tape someone without their knowledge.
2nd - Attorney client privilege.
I think Trump and his attorney are doing this on purpose. These tapes are going to some how get Trump off.

 

[JB Lions]

What i can't wrap my head around is how can they release these tapes?
1st - it's illegal to tape someone without their knowledge.
2nd - Attorney client privilege.
I think Trump and his attorney are doing this on purpose. These tapes are going to some how get Trump off.

Forgot these, ex wife said he also raped her. So add these to the big list above.
Accusations filed in court against Trump

• 1.1 Ivana Trump (1989)
• 1.2 Jill Harth (1992)
• 1.3 Summer Zervos (2007)

I heard on TV you don't need 2 party consent to tape in NY.

The other stuff, not sure about, lawyers/court will figure it out. But it's Cohen's lawyer leaking it and it's clear Cohen isn't on Trump's side anymore. Not good for Trump. So it'll all come out.

 

[E-Promote]

What i can't wrap my head around is how can they release these tapes?.

In this first tape there is an indication of a fraud they were discussing which automatically negates attorney client privilege so the tape can be used by anybody.

As far as the series of tapes, Trump and Giuliani are such geniuses that they waved attorney client privilege with them.

 

[JB Lions]

Plus, Trump and team said they were ok to be released, forgot the wording.

Waived privilege, that's it

• President Donald Trump blasted his former lawyer Michael Cohen for secretly recording him, suggesting that doing so may have been illegal.
• But it was Trump's own legal team that decided to release a tape of the two men discussing a possible payment to a Playboy model, which had been deemed "privileged" in a federal court, a source with knowledge told CNBC.
• "Very foolish strategy by Team Trump," the source added.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/21/tru...ge-to-release-michael-cohens-tape-source.html

Trump attorneys waive privilege on secret recording about ex-Playmate payment
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/21/politics/trump-cohen-recording-privilege/index.html

 

[urljunky]

As far as the series of tapes, Trump and Giuliani are such geniuses that they waved attorney client privilege with them.

But it was Trump's own legal team that decided to release a tape of the two men discussing a possible payment to a Playboy model

That is what I am talking about. Trump is not that dumb. They are all in it together looking like they are against each other.

 

[JB Lions]

That is what I am talking about. Trump is not that dumb. They are all in it together looking like they are against each other.

He had sex with a porn star without a rubber. He's kind of dumb. I really don't see how audio of them wanting to set up a company to pay people off, right before an election helps him in anyway. How does this help anything?

 

[urljunky]

He had sex with a porn star without a rubber. He's kind of dumb. I really don't see how audio of them wanting to set up a company to pay people off, right before an election helps him in anyway. How does this help anything?

It's not going to hurt him very much, but maybe keep attention off other things. It is for something. I just don't know what yet. Trump is good at spinning things and getting the end result he wants.
I could be wrong and he just might be as dumb as a rock, but I don't think so.

 

[E-Promote]

That is what I am talking about. Trump is not that dumb. They are all in it together looking like they are against each other.

Not only is he monumentally stupid, he is also a chronic liar and conman. Enjoy.

 

[JB Lions]

This just came out:

Republicans
13 mins ago
House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Rosenstein

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-articles-impeachment-against-rosenstein.html

All trying to get free trips to Mar-a-Lago

Some reaction:

haha, if this is true:

"In the articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein, Republicans cite an action the DOJ took in Oct. 2016 ... six months before Rosenstein was sworn in as Deputy AG in April 2017."


The GOP resolution calling for impeachment of Rod Rosenstein, who oversees special counsel probe on Russia, is a tantrum by wingnuts who have been unable to block Mueller’s investigation. It is politics of the pathetic. Speaker Ryan must stop it or resign!
John Dean‏Verified account @JohnWDean 18m18 minutes ago

The fact that only 11 House Republicans signed onto the articles of impeachment against Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein speaks volumes. I don't believe this will ever get a vote.
Ted Lieu‏Verified account @tedlieu 53m53 minutes ago

There are no grounds for House Republicans to impeach Rod Rosenstein. Trying to remove him for failing to disclose sources, methods and evidence from a criminal investigation is beyond the pale. This is partisan nonsense. It’s dangerous for the rule of law and it needs to stop.
Sen Dianne Feinstein‏Verified account @SenFeinstein 35m35 minutes ago



See this for what it is. An attempt by complicit Republicans led by Meadows and Jordan to delegitimize a probe being conducted by DOJ. These Trump lackeys have to decide what they value: the rule of law or doing everything to protect Trump. Be strong DOJ.
Eric Holder‏Verified account @EricHolder 27m27 minutes ago

 

[JB Lions]

You guys don't have enough votes to impeach me - Rowdy Rod Rosenstein

 

[mr-x]

Plenty I am sure, I am simply commenting on the arrogance and hypocrisy of the evangelical right.

People vote for policy reasons. You don't have to approve of everything they do.