The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[Silentptnr]

National religion? National superior race?? This are bizarre accusations. Just hyperbole. Sowing those seeds of division? Back to the "all Americans have he right to their political opinion, but those who don't support the leftist agenda are racist, ignorant, uneducated or greedy. No possibility they might be intelligent people with good intentions. That would mean we would have to debate their points on their merits."

My own opinion is that this election is lose/lose no matter who wins - mainly because political discourse and awareness is the lowest I have ever seen. The end result of tribalism. Pathetic to see a potentially great country sink to this level.

Actually not bizarre at all actually. But I won't go into detail about Trumps singling out of certain religions.

 

[.X.]

It's really fascinating how two intelligent people can see the same thing so differently. I won't change my mind. It is what it is. I'm not talking about the agenda, I'm talking about the man.

we are reverse, I am talking about the agenda narrative, Not talking about the man, I wouldn't care if the President were Captain Crunch as long my founded government isn't changed to a Socialist - Communist government

 

[Silentptnr]

we are reverse, I am talking about the agenda narrative, Not talking about the man, I wouldn't care if the President were Captain Crunch as long my founded government isn't changed to a Socialist - Communist government

I appreciate that. I actually agree generally. But I admit, since Trump, even I have learned a bit more about the awesome power a president possesses. In the wrong hands, could be very, very bad.

I don't see anyone threatening the founded form of government more than Trump.

 

[Namersen]

If Kasich was President, this thread would be pretty much dead. Trump is the major issue, that will be handled shortly.

@lennco, JB wants your thread to die a premature death.

 

[Silentptnr]

we are reverse, I am talking about the agenda narrative, Not talking about the man, I wouldn't care if the President were Captain Crunch as long my founded government isn't changed to a Socialist - Communist government

What do you think of Trumps position on Putin then? (no pun intended)

 

[.X.]

I appreciate that. I actually agree generally. But I admit, since Trump, even I have learned a bit more about the awesome power a president possesses. In the wrong hands, could be very, very bad.

I don't see anyone threatening the founded form of government more than Trump.

we are once again entering an election to pick the lessor of two evils unfortunately, I feel the Democratic party as a whole is very dangerous against my cause, They allow, condone and support Socialist within their party, this is not the Democrat of past IMO... their Ideals are far to risky and point to a government reform of straight socialism with communism.....

 

[.X.]

What do you think of Trumps position on Putin then? (no pun intended)

right today i am far more concerned to what Barrack Obama and Hillary Clintons positions were/are with Russia after the FBI Lawyer catching charges for changing text in a email from an investigation on Trump that Obama ordered on behalf of H Clinton in 2016, interfering in a election at best, getting information from a Russian or Russians while interfering in the election.

with all that said, what did Obama or Clinton find on Trump through their investigation with Russia?? apparently nothing because if they had, they certainly would have released it.

 

[Silentptnr]

we are once again entering an election to pick the lessor of two evils unfortunately, I feel the Democratic party as a whole is very dangerous against my cause, They allow, condone and support Socialist within their party, this is not the Democrat of past IMO... their Ideals are far to risky and point to a government reform of straight socialism with communism.....

What's so wrong with a healthier, wealthier, smarter, more inclusive country.

Take healthcare...

Capitalism says insurance companies, medical providers, and drug companies should charge what they want.

Without help, good, hard working American families can't afford medical insurance. Some with disabilities, etc.

You are probably against the ACA although Trump hasn't come up with a viable alternative. I'm sorry, but somewhere between universal coverage and some form of subsidy or cost cap, there has to be a solution. Healthcare for Americans is necessary. This is America. I can't see a future where only rich Americans receive proper healthcare.

For me, it's about the candidate and in this case it's any easy decision for Biden.

 

[Silentptnr]

right today i am far more concerned to what Barrack Obama and Hillary Clintons positions were/are with Russia after the FBI Lawyer catching charges for changing text in a email from an investigation on Trump that Obama ordered on behalf of H Clinton in 2016, interfering in a election at best, getting information from a Russian or Russians while interfering in the election.

with all that said, what did Obama or Clinton find on Trump through their investigation with Russia?? apparently nothing because if they had, they certainly would have released it.

Well, I personally am not much interested in past presidents, etc. I'm more interested in the future ones.

Nothing will change the views of average Americans on Obama. The guy gave millions healthcare. Literally saved lives.

I think Trump fears Putin. I don't know why and it doesn't matter why. No American President should fear another countries leader. I felt embarrassed for him and by him. The optics have been dreadful. I'm used to American pride. I felt that much more from Biden.

 

[.X.]

What's so wrong with a healthier, wealthier, smarter, more inclusive country.

Take healthcare...

Capitalism says insurance companies, medical providers, and drug companies should charge what they want.

Without help, good, hard working American families can't afford medical insurance. Some with disabilities, etc.

You are probably against the ACA although Trump hasn't come up with a viable alternative. I'm sorry, but somewhere between universal coverage and some form of subsidy or cost cap, there has to be a solution. Healthcare for Americans is necessary. This is America. I can't see a future where only rich Americans receive proper healthcare.

For me, it's about the candidate and in this case it's any easy decision for Biden.

Considering we are the Super Power of the world and have been for a long time now as well as being the country with the most opportunity , even for work visa immigrants, our system is proven and does work, Obama Care is good healthcare for the less fortunate, it needs to be tweaked so the deductibles are lower, but good none the less.

We need work within our system of Republic but on our worst days we are still better than most.

 

[lennco]

@lennco, JB wants your thread to die a premature death.

This thread will not die anytime soon because @GILSAN will keep it alive as long as he is alive.
He has been here since day one and only when gilsan dies does this thread die

 

[JB Lions]

Considering we are the Super Power of the world and have been for a long time now as well as being the country with the most opportunity , even for work visa immigrants, our system is proven and does work, Obama Care is good healthcare for the less fortunate, it needs to be tweaked so the deductibles are lower, but good none the less.

We need work within our system of Republic but on our worst days we are still better than most.

It's also good for you. You've said many times you love ACA. White Trump is trying to kill it, they still never came up with a plan, doesn't exist.

 

[.X.]

It's also good for you. You've said many times you love ACA.

absolutely, i support it and it was well done by Obama to supply health insurance for the less fortunate

 

[Silentptnr]

absolutely, i support it and it was well done by Obama to supply health insurance for the less fortunate

I'm really glad you feel that way. Who knows, maybe deep inside, Trump thinks it's a good thing too.

 

[lennco]

Again, Trumps presidency feels more like communist rule than any other president in recent history. What should the one national religion be? What should the one national superior race be? What should the media cover and say? Who should decide about the climate? Who should decide what tires are good?

Trump believes he should. I don't agree. It's almost comedy.

Enjoy all your post
Just about everything you've been saying I have been saying about Trump for almost 5 years (OMG has it been that long? )

 

[Silentptnr]

Another way I feel Trump is more like a Communist is his apparent separationist and seclusionist tendencies. IMO, most communist or totalitarian governments essentially "cut off ties" with the world. I feel Trump agenda is more aligned with that type of government.

 

[Samer]

Another way I feel Trump is more like a Communist is his apparent separationist and seclusionist tendencies. IMO, most communist or totalitarian governments essentially "cut off ties" with the world. I feel Trump agenda is more aligned with that type of government.

Look at the crooked media coverage.
It’s insane.
The Party of “tax the rich” more Communist
This post doesnt make sense to me, i’m sorry.
Did you know Corporate income tax was 40%?
Highest in the world. That’s a JOKE.
I dont blame Apple for having HQ in Ireland!

“Trump Tax Cuts” were not “tax cut for rich”
They help all entrepreneurs, and especially big
You like highest Corporate Income tax in world under Obumer; Prob reinstat his exVP Biden?
Communism doesnt mix record Stock market under the awesome Trump administration!

With Democrats (Biden) i see “open Borders” This isnt the age of nomads;

“Border Security is National Security”
“National Security is Border Security”

Vote Red
Vote Trump

Antifa is Communist...

So by definition, their politics (Left) communist
Thank you for playing! KAGA. Dam right;
Trump shows us what it means have thick skin;
I love watching Left obsess his tweets.
He’s using them like Puppets his strings;
“ALL CAPS?” Really? I’m surprised you align more with Political Ideology that shows me least tolerant have discourse...

Kavanaugh #2 after hero John Robert majority
He was innocent; proved more than competent

 

[Silentptnr]

Look at the crooked media coverage.
It’s insane.
The Party of “tax the rich” more Communist
This post doesnt make sense to me, i’m sorry.
Did you know Corporate income tax was 40%?
Highest in the world. That’s a JOKE.
I dont blame Apple for having HQ in Ireland!

“Trump Tax Cuts” were not “tax cut for rich”
They help all entrepreneurs, and especially big
You like highest Corporate Income tax in world under Obumer; Prob reinstat his exVP Biden?
Communism doesnt mix record Stock market under the awesome Trump administration!

With Democrsts (Biden) i see “open Borders” This isnt the age of nomads;

“Border security is National Security”
“National Security is Border Security”

Vote Red
Vote Trump

Antifa is Communist...

So by definition, their politics (Left) communist
Thank you for playing! KAGA

Working and earning in America is a privilege, not a right. We must pay taxes. Of course, the more you make, the more you pay. What's wrong with that?

Taxes might be the highest in the world, but imo, it's the best place in the world no matter the taxes.

You might not agree, but I wouldn't want to live permanently anywhere else.

 

[Samer]

Working and earning in America is a privilege, not a right. We must pay taxes. Of course, the more you make, the more you pay. What's wrong with that?

Taxes might be the highest in the world, but imo, it's the best place in the world no matter the taxes.

You might not agree, but I wouldn't want to live permanently anywhere else.

It deters investment,
Case point; Apple had their money in Ireland
and... oh yea! HQ was there

Missed the point; many others did (GE) too.
Keep hundreds of billions overseas to avoid
this “right” to pay 50% of your salary taxes..
Pass.
Now that it’s back to reasonable 20 percent.

 

[Silentptnr]

And no, we don't decide what our taxes pay. The government does. Lower taxes means less services, less research, less military, less all the things that make this country different than the others.

What we get is beauty, opportunity, wealth, education, healthcare, and so much more. It's an honor and a privilege to work and pay taxes.

 

[Samer]

And no, we don't decide what our taxes pay. The government does. Lower taxes means less services, less research, less military, less all the things that make this country different than the others.

What we get is beauty, opportunity, wealth, education, healthcare, and so much more. It's an honor and a privilege to work and pay taxes.

We can agree best country in the world?
That doesnt have to entail 35% taxes (wow)

 

[Domainace]

Working and earning in America is a privilege, not a right.It's an honor and a privilege to work and pay taxes.

That's not only wrong, but a dangerous line of thought that leads to totalitarianism. Look at the Bill of Rights again. Frightening to me that anyone could think the right to work is actually a privilege to be granted by a "beneficent" ruler. Many young Americans also think that it's a privilege to be allowed to leave the country. No need for a wall like in East Germany. The wall is in their minds already. Or did you mean something else?

And no, we don't decide what our taxes pay. The government does. Lower taxes means less services, less research, less military, less all the things that make this country different than the others.

Again, in a free country the citizens do decide what the taxes pay for. The government is supposed to represent the people, though it has long since gone into the ruler phase. There are virtually no tax-funded services in the US compared to other countries, so I don't know what you refer to there. Research, some, but much wasted. Military? The largest on the world, with troops in 150 countries. Always at war somewhere. How does that help US citizens who pay for it?

I find it odd that you worry about Trump's authoritarian tendencies when authoritarianism seems to appeal to you.

 

[Domainace]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1296925357518594048

 

[Silentptnr]

That's not only wrong, but a dangerous line of thought that leads to totalitarianism. Look at the Bill of Rights again. Frightening to me that anyone could think the right to work is actually a privilege to be granted by a "beneficent" ruler. Many young Americans also think that it's a privilege to be allowed to leave the country. No need for a wall like in East Germany. The wall is in their minds already. Or did you mean something else?



Again, in a free country the citizens do decide what the taxes pay for. The government is supposed to represent the people, though it has long since gone into the ruler phase. There are virtually no tax-funded services in the US compared to other countries, so I don't know what you refer to there. Research, some, but much wasted. Military? The largest on the world, with troops in 150 countries. Always at war somewhere. How does that help US citizens who pay for it?

I find it odd that you worry about Trump's authoritarian tendencies when authoritarianism seems to appeal to you.

I think you fail to understand what privilege versus right means in my post. If working and earning were a right, everyone could demand a job. That's not the case. Just ask the millions of unemployed that can't find work. It's a privilege.

Just ask those who have had their things seized by the government. Suddenly you realize the privilege.

Not dangerous...just reality.

 

[enlytend]

You are very missed

Sorry to abandon you guys .

Very cool, Congrats to ya on the new position!!

We are doing good, just working, it felt great to return to work.

Thanks - Glad to hear you’re back at work again!