The USA Political Thread

[lennco]

Here you can spout your USA political views.

Rules:
1. Keep it clean
2. No fighting
3. Respect the views of others.
4. US Political views, No Religious views
5. Have fun

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[mr-x]

Andrew Klavan,

RNC campaign slogan: Jobs not Mobs

DNC campaign slogan: Not all immigrants are criminals.

 

[mr-x]

Liberals: Love trumps Hate.

 

[mr-x]

White guy takes black Trump supporters hat.

Real or click bait?

 

[offthehandle]

Another washed up has-been past famous celebrity. Like green hair A whole lotta Rosie O’dongle, Whoopi, Tom Arnold, et al.

James Woods sure has had short, succinct bits of sarcasm and smartass and least doesnt simply call a bunch of names- whereas Deniro sounded like he was talking in one of his old gangster movies.

I Never watch TV shows, its mostly boring. Look at what has Hollywood produced these past years, I don’t even pay any attention anymore to movie theatre listings. Only good stuff is regurgitated And rehashed movies successful in 70’s. Has Spiderman 12 or Batman 16 arrived? Junk. Halloween 59, isnt it in theatres now? Or is that the actresses age?

 

[JB Lions]

I guess Megyn Kelly got fired, I don't think many people care, I don't see it trending. For this:

"But what is racist?" Kelly asked on her show. "Because you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface on Halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for Halloween. Back when I was a kid that was OK, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character."

I'm actually on her side on this one, even tho her show sucked. I like owning historical type domains, one is minstrel shows. That was back in the day when white people put on blackface and mocked black people. Which is different than some white kid who is a Lil Wayne fan and paints his face black and dresses up like him. This type of stuff always comes up during Halloween and from the sites I've read, even most black people don't have a problem with it. Context matter. So if it was that comment above, that got people all upset, I don't agree with that.

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I guess he's blaming the media

A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 6h6 hours ago

 

[offthehandle]

 

[JB Lions]

Are they capitalist? I think sometimes we use labels but each country is unique.

Bigger welfare state, higher taxes.
Low income people pay up to 60%

Sweden

• GNI per capita: $47,311
• 2016 GDP: $514.5 billion
• Population: 9.9 million
• Life expectancy: 82.2 years at birth

Sweden has a GNI per capita of $47,311, far greater than the $38,992 OECD average and more than three times the $14,459 global figure. High quality of life in Sweden is made possible in part by open-market policies that promote free trade, effective regulation in the banking sector, and a generous social welfare program.

The high GNI per capita has likely contributed to Sweden's positive health outcomes. Life expectancy at birth in Sweden is 82.2 years, 3.5 years longer than the U.S. life expectancy of 78.7 years.

 

[mr-x]

Good NEWS!!

Swetnick, Avenatti Referred for Criminal Investigation
Providing False Statements, Obstructing Congressional Investigations, and Conspiracy All Violate Federal Law
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pr...-avenatti-referred-for-criminal-investigation

Things keep getting worse for Creepy Porn Lawyer.

 

[offthehandle]

MSNBC Suggests Mail Bomb Suspect Reads Drudge Report & Fox News
"I'm talking like people who follow the Drudge Report and Fox News and stuff it's that sort of circle."

Oh, but of course. Stereotypical generalized swipes once again from the Liberal braintrust at MSNBC.

And....

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/nbc-news-reporter-blames-fox-180911687.html

 

[offthehandle]

 

[DNWon]

Things keep getting worse for Creepy Porn Lawyer.

As they should!

 

[mr-x]

 

[JB Lions]

Not really. They probably won't even open and investigation, and if they did, Grassley might not like the results.

 

[mr-x]

Front page of MarketWatch

 

[offthehandle]

Are these Disneyworld Admission tickets?

 

[JB Lions]

Are these Disneyworld Admission tickets?

Why do you post this garbage? It's stuff I expect middle school kids to be into.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soros-caravan-refugees/

 

[Kate]

Trump’s use of unsecured iPhone worries White House officials
But but but - her E-mails.

 

[mr-x]

So her emails didn't bother you?

Trump’s use of unsecured iPhone worries White House officials
But but but - her E-mails.

 

[Kate]

Yes, they did. But 45 crucified her for that, and is doing worse and still refusing to learn his lesson.
Let me remind you that the FBI investigated her for that, and may even have ruined her chances of winning the 2016 election.
We are not asking that much - just that he acts like a president and follows proper opsec.

 

[offthehandle]

Why do you post this garbage? It's stuff I expect middle school kids to be into.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soros-caravan-refugees/

Snopes appears is partisan and offers a liberal opinion and buries this twisted statement. These are not fact checks, these are more fake news propaganda.

“Guatemalan journalist Luis Assardo managed to speak with some of the locals and confirmed to Splinter News that these migrants were already a part of the caravan, and that they were given some money to help them get by and not as an inducement to “join” the trek.”

The article confirms they were given cash. Who gave them? Whether the cash was before or a progress payment made after reaching a certain point, it doesnt matter. Nobody hands out cash like I said. Disneyland Tickets. Subway coupons maybe. On Snopes... Try looking up “Hillary’s emails”. Nothing negative, but lots of AP biased articles and anti trump search results.

Snopes is partisan bullshit, and you rely on it?

Dont use your Fake Proof Snopes website to “prove” anything. I posted those other articles already yesterday showing the Soros connection.

Ok. Now you wont read this, but anybody else interested should. Snopes is a secret club.

Snopes won’t provide transparency when requested, so they are part of the liberal propaganda machine.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevl...fact-checking-the-fact-checkers/#6d5ca364227f

“From the outside, Silicon Valley looks like a gleaming tower of technological perfection. Yet, once the curtain is pulled back, we see that behind that shimmering façade is a warehouse of good old fashioned humans, subject to all the same biases and fallibility, but with their results now laundered through the sheen of computerized infallibility. Even my colleagues who work in the journalism community and by their nature skeptical, had assumed that Snopes must have rigorous screening procedures, constant inter- and intra-rater evaluations and ongoing assessments and a total transparency mandate. Yet, the truth is that we simply have no visibility into the organization’s inner workings and its founder declined to shed further light into its operations for this article.”

 

[JB Lions]

Snopes appears is partisan and offers a liberal opinion and buries this twisted statement. These are not fact checks, these are more fake news propaganda

No, it's not fake news propaganda. It just went thru what you posted and explained it. What you post a lot of times is. Like the Socialist quote you deleted after I pointed out it's fake. A lot of what you post, I can take less than a minute to find out if it's true or not. Most of the false stuff posted in this thread, is more from the right/Trump side.

And who gives people, food, water etc? People, decent people. Organizations. It's like decency vanished from the right. Typically, if somebody sees somebody thirsty, hungry, tired, in need of help etc, people lend a hand. Not some big conspiracy, just decent people.

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12 more days

House still holding for Dems 209 - Repubs 200, 26 tossup, 218 for control, so Dems just need 1/3 of the tossups:
https://www.270towin.com/2018-house-election/

 

[mr-x]

Yes, they did. But 45 crucified her for that, and is doing worse and still refusing to learn his lesson.
Let me remind you that the FBI investigated her for that, and may even have ruined her chances of winning the 2016 election.
We are not asking that much - just that he acts like a president and follows proper opsec.

At this point, the only evidence is a NY Times "report". It wouldn't surprise me if Trump used an insecure phone. If it's proven he has exposed classified information, he'll pay the same price Hillary did.

 

[offthehandle]

I guess before 2016. Plenty of articles about snopes itself. I have no idea in the accuracy of anything is in this crazy lunatic divided world.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Snopes-biased-Why-do-some-people-believe-Snopes-is-biased

Snopes’ main political fact-checker is a writer named Kim Lacapria. Before writing for Snopes, Lacapria wrote for Inquisitr, a blog that — oddly enough — is known for publishing fake quotes and even downright hoaxes as much as anything else.

https://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/...act-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-s...ading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?

• Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.

• Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.

• Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.

• These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.

• Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.

When you compare both versions of Snopes’ article, you see that they edited it to suit a narrative that fits Monsanto’s agenda – it’s outrageous!
It’s as if Monsanto edited it themselves and sent it off to Snopes for publication. Entire sentences and paragraphs were removed that were hurtful to Monsanto. Important data was removed entirely. The wording was changed to make the findings of an independent FDA-registered laboratory seem less scientific or credible…

There are questionable articles all over, Snopes isnt necessarily gospel. its appears as a mixed bag. Probably started out accurate, corporation owns it now? Forget it.

You wanna believe CNN? Go for it. No longer journalism everything is hyped.

You wanna believe in the Bible, Koran, Aesops Fables, Mother Goose or Frank Zappa and post it, its your 1st amendment right. Looking back at all the US propaganda taught in my public schools, only as an adult do I see the agenda and bias.

I posted what I did, about the migrant thing from some non US publications. you never refuted it. Probably ignored all of it too.

I posted and erased one meme, thats all and now after reading more about snopes I don’t know if was inacurate but perhaps I was mistaken, now if I really cared I would check accuracy after reading about snopes accuracy just now.

The message of the meme was democrats are socialists. It wasnt always that way, not huge until millineals believing Bernie Sanders Free Everything program ideas. We now think Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, Google is free, but instead YOU the user are the product. TV isnt free, its paid for by propaganda, advertising. Same with all media.

The rest of stuff I see I post is mostly my opinion or those of others I agree or disagree with and articles. You are welcome to disagree.

At least you have stopped calling names.

You state John Stossel, Candace Owens.... etc as fakes, liars, frauds, whatever names you did, news to you this world its all black and white/yes or no with you.

But The world is grey, and the hate for conservative values and President Trump and his wife who were elected should receive the respect of the office. Yet the media continues to beat the war drum, and blinds all who don’t realize they are caught up in it.

Anything I post is My opinion, my 2 cents. I am not 100% accurate, I am no journalist. Never said or claimed that.

I will leave you to be the almighty wizard, expert, fact checker, all knowing political critic on your throne of superior intelligence, intellect and depth of insight.

 

[JB Lions]

I guess before 2016. Plenty of articles about snopes itself. I have no idea in the accuracy of anything is in this crazy lunatic divided world.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Snopes-biased-Why-do-some-people-believe-Snopes-is-biased

Snopes’ main political fact-checker is a writer named Kim Lacapria. Before writing for Snopes, Lacapria wrote for Inquisitr, a blog that — oddly enough — is known for publishing fake quotes and even downright hoaxes as much as anything else.

https://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/...act-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

https://foodbabe.com/do-you-trust-s...ading-how-they-work-with-monsanto-operatives/

Is Snopes a credible and authoritative source of information?

• Snopes is now 50% owned by an ad agency (Proper Media) and they make money by generating millions of views on the 3rd-party advertisements on their website. It simply makes sense for them to seek out articles that are viral to “debunk”, so that they can piggy-back on that traffic and generate more advertising revenue.

• Snopes was founded by a husband and wife team who are now in the middle of a contentious divorce in which founder David Mikkelsen has been accused of embezzling $98,000 of company money to spend on “himself and prostitutes”.

• Snopes now has a hired team of suspect fact checkers who collaborate to debunk falsehoods that are trending on the internet.

• These fact checkers reportedly have no editorial oversight and do not follow standard journalistic procedures such as interviewing the authors of articles they are trying to debunk to get all sides of the story.

• Snopes doesn’t have a formal screening process for hiring fact checkers and for evaluating applicants for any potential conflicts of interest. Without such standards, it is very easy for them to be infiltrated by those who work with the industry and who have a hidden agenda.

When you compare both versions of Snopes’ article, you see that they edited it to suit a narrative that fits Monsanto’s agenda – it’s outrageous!
It’s as if Monsanto edited it themselves and sent it off to Snopes for publication. Entire sentences and paragraphs were removed that were hurtful to Monsanto. Important data was removed entirely. The wording was changed to make the findings of an independent FDA-registered laboratory seem less scientific or credible…

There are questionable articles all over, Snopes isnt necessarily gospel. its appears as a mixed bag. Probably started out accurate, corporation owns it now? Forget it.

You wanna believe CNN? Go for it. No longer journalism everything is hyped.

You wanna believe in the Bible, Koran, Aesops Fables, Mother Goose or Frank Zappa and post it, its your 1st amendment right. Looking back at all the US propaganda taught in my public schools, only as an adult do I see the agenda and bias.

I posted what I did, about the migrant thing from some non US publications. you never refuted it. Probably ignored all of it too.

I posted and erased one meme, thats all and now after reading more about snopes I don’t know if was inacurate but perhaps I was mistaken, now if I really cared I would check accuracy after reading about snopes accuracy just now.

The message of the meme was democrats are socialists. It wasnt always that way, not huge until millineals believing Bernie Sanders Free Everything program ideas. We now think Facebook, Twitter, Gmail, Google is free, but instead YOU the user are the product. TV isnt free, its paid for by propaganda, advertising. Same with all media.

The rest of stuff I see I post is mostly my opinion or those of others I agree or disagree with and articles. You are welcome to disagree.

At least you have stopped calling names.

You state John Stossel, Candace Owens.... etc as fakes, liars, frauds, whatever names you did, news to you this world its all black and white/yes or no with you.

But The world is grey, and the hate for conservative values and President Trump and his wife who were elected should receive the respect of the office. Yet the media continues to beat the war drum, and blinds all who don’t realize they are caught up in it.

Anything I post is My opinion, my 2 cents. I am not 100% accurate, I am no journalist. Never said or claimed that.

I will leave you to be the almighty wizard, expert, fact checker, all knowing political critic on your throne of superior intelligence, intellect and depth of insight.

You're trying to drown me in volume.

"At least you have stopped calling names." - You'll find I'm kind of like a mirror in that regard. You haven't done any of that in my direction, so none is coming your way.

In regards to Snopes, I think you found the one yesterday credible, because your deleted your post.

So let's get specific, and current (today):

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soros-caravan-refugees/

Tell me what they got wrong. It seems like some reasonable explanations to me. If you disagree, quote what you disagree with and tell me why it's wrong.

 

[offthehandle]

Tenured college professor talks as a whistleblower. Really glad I dropped out, otherwise I still be working until 65.