The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[MicroGuy]

Dr. Ron Paul speculated this week on the Alex Jones show that the US dollar will collapse in 2012 causing massive uproar and rebellion in the streets. This is probably not a good time to be making long-term investments in an extension built on smoke and mirrors. IMO.

 

[wot]

Dr. Ron Paul speculated this week on the Alex Jones show that the US dollar will collapse in 2012 causing massive uproar and rebellion in the streets. This is probably not a good time to be making long-term investments in an extension built on smoke and mirrors. IMO.

Or a currency that is "owned" by China. :P

 

[bmugford]

Maybe Ron Paul would be taken more seriously if he didn't do shows like Alex Jones. The guy is like a who's who of kook conspiracies.

Brad

Dr. Ron Paul speculated this week on the Alex Jones show that the US dollar will collapse in 2012 causing massive uproar and rebellion in the streets. This is probably not a good time to be making long-term investments in an extension built on smoke and mirrors. IMO.

 

[spline]

Just read this answer from Micha Benoliel.

"OrganIP only uses public info that the called party accepted to publish as public onto their social profile or .tel domain. We also encourage all our users to register their own .tel domain to manage all privacy issues using their private profiles and the friending system. Book your name before it's gone on http://yes.tel"

Micha Benoliel Posted by: Micha Author Profile Page | September 26, 2009 8:08 PM

At this point it doesn't matter if any name will work, as long as more people realize and hear about that .tel can be very useful its a very good thing for the .tel market.

 

[mactel]

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I believe you have spent a few hours populating your dot tel domains....?

Hey, you!...: populate, populate, populate your .tel's, says Oncle Sam.

Keep the buzz and the the biz going.

Dot Tel is the coolest thing, since Coca Cola.

You say "Coke": every one understands...
You say "Tel": soon every one will understand...

 

[WordWalker]

Revisit that statement in 2010-2011. The people who continued investing at a normal pace since the crash last October are going to be very happy. Especially those who actually increased their investing in Nov, Dec, Jan and Feb. There are a lot of investors who secretly love the economic crisis since it has provided entry points that we haven't seen in decades.

 

[plaggypig]

Dr. Ron Paul speculated this week on the Alex Jones show that the US dollar will collapse in 2012 causing massive uproar and rebellion in the streets. This is probably not a good time to be making long-term investments in an extension built on smoke and mirrors. IMO.

I guess I should add some relevance to this strange tangent. .tel would be a great way to heal communications networks that may be compromised or disrupted by a state trying to dissolve an uprising - there's privacy, no SPoF, and many open points of access to the network. It'll be even better when we have DNSSEC. As we've seen time and time again from other troubled societies, effective communication across horizontal structures is key.

Awaken the sheeple microguy! Stock up on canned food, Alex Jones DVDs, guns/ammo/teabags, a .tel, and await further instructions from Fox News!!!

 

[steveteva]

PART 2


Case Study: DOMAIN SUCCESS AND POPULARITY FOR gTLDs
All started in the U.S:

How did .COM became successful?
Is the first Tld adopted by all.

How did .MOBI became popular?
Is the first Tld adopted by big companies like banks, cities, delivery services...

How did .TV became popular?
Is the first Tld adopted by TV commercials for advertising products on TV.


As you see all started in the U.S. not UK and promoted to general public through media advertising from big companies or trusted names.

All other gTLDs like .info, .us (ccTld), .biz, .pro, .travel, .ws... are "dead" or not yet adopted by general public nor companies.

To give .tel a chance to become popular and not following the other failed success tlds, we need to find a reason why general public must adopt .tel and why companies must have their .tel and promote it.

If any of you can brainstorm it and give any idea, you're welcome to post it.

In the middle of the night I woke up at 3am after a nice dream, it was on TV for during a entertainment show like american idol and the showman said Vote now go to theshowname.tel and vote!

Wow! that rocks for .tel, so .tel were adopted by all entertainment and reality shows on TV in the US just like all TV commercial show a .tv URL scrolling in the bottom of TV screen, .tel will be on every entertainment and reality shows.
Why choose .tel? it's call to action tech, fast contact connect, can have short urls, voting process is possible by mobile devices.

Sorry but kick off UK promotion not worth promoting there for success worldwide, go U.S. first and if Telnic don't get it we can't do much for their sucess. Maybe Telnic wants to compete .co.uk or add .co.uk new features .tel= .co.uk contact mod

Last update: .me is gaining popularity fast: Universal Studios have been promoted: despicable.me for their new movie.
.me will also be used by big companies like wordpress, godaddy...

if you miss PART 1 here it is :

The downside of your story and conclusion is that if .tel was a U.S. based company; marketing efforts and budget will be 10 times more powerful and .tel will already be part of many registrar like Godaddy. Big Companies and businesses will reg and promote in media.
To me and that's the reason I'm starting to worry for .tel succes in coming years is because of this situation, they only promote on uk market, webnames.ca privately promotes Canada, digitrade: France and that's it. And their promotion is so poor just some press release, video creating the "buzz" and some tech Expo like Demo Fall or privately held. Also some small business or personal domainers promotes in a small scale.

How do you want that Telnic and their .tel will be successful worldwide? I only see a little success in UK with parterships (BT and Myspace) otherwise it's ZERO (sorry to say that but it's sadly true).

I did invest big bucks and want to reg or buy more but I'm "freezing it all" at this moment.

This post could shake some domainers who invest thousands and have hundreds of domains coming to renewal (march-April 2010) but I also want to be noticed by Telnic and express my opinion on their failing marketing campaing worldwide. We domainers sees in .tel an extraordinary tool nothing compare to .com, .net.... and could win the web market worldwide but if it's promotion road map and strategy is still the same then it will be like other Tlds (.ws .mobi .info) not trusted by users and businesses worldwide. I don't know if they have a Marketing Director for US market but 1. He is not very involved in it or 2. they don't have any and I suggest to hire me (LOL) No seriously, marketing is very very important for branding and to be out of the lot (out of the .com and tlds lot), that's how Coca Col. , Mcd. , Lewis Jean., Microsoft, AppleMac...... are what they are now!

Here I'm not talking like dubdub... and other nasayers we don't have same vision as for me .tel product is a great idea but lacks in promotion worldwide.

I did chat with some big .tel investors recently, I think they are number 1 and 2 having spend the most and having the hugest quality .tel
They don't even come to read or post here as there are too many posts that are not constructive and are repeating same thing all the time.
Their opinions is same as many here, we wait for 1 or 2 years to see but even now we all need more marketing efforts done worldwide specially in the US market if don't want to see dot tel fail sooner. We were very exited in the beginning but after 6 month and still at same point, something have to happen!

 

[MicroGuy]

To give .tel a chance to become popular and not following the other failed success tlds, we need to find a reason why general public must adopt .tel and why companies must have their .tel and promote it.

Good luck. Perhaps a call to Criss Angel is in order?

 

[DubDubDubDot]

To give .tel a chance to become popular and not following the other failed success tlds, we need to find a reason why general public must adopt .tel and why companies must have their .tel and promote it.

If any of you can brainstorm it and give any idea, you're welcome to post it.

Funny. I've been bringing that topic up since early in the thread and people like you attacked me for even questioning .tel's path forward. To you and your fellow pumpers it was a highway paved in gold. Everyone was going to want a .tel, but nobody stopped to ask the whats, whys and hows of .tel adoption.

In the middle of the night I woke up at 3am after a nice dream, it was on TV for during a entertainment show like american idol and the showman said Vote now go to theshowname.tel and vote!

Wow! that rocks for .tel, so .tel were adopted by all entertainment and reality shows on TV in the US just like all TV commercial show a .tv URL scrolling in the bottom of TV screen, .tel will be on every entertainment and reality shows.

Not this voting BS again. I guess everything I've said about shows sending you to their .com to vote has gone in one ear and out the other. You people certainly don't respond to the FACT I bring up that using .tel as a voting platform eliminates .com voter page sponsorship opportunities.

.me is gaining popularity fast: Universal Studios have been promoted: despicable.me for their new movie.
.me will also be used by big companies like wordpress, godaddy...

Despicable.me is an extension hack. If the name of the movie was Despicable, it wouldn't be on a .me.

The type of usage on WordPress and GoDaddy isn't enough to get the .me domaining ball rolling. .me is below .biz and always will be.

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View source for Mayfair.tel in Firefox (I don't know if that's different from IE) and you'll see why Google gives it position 5 for "mayfair directory" search. OK I know it's not a common search term, but don't tell me Google doesn't see it.

What exactly am I looking for? I didn't say that Google doesn't see the source code, if that's what you are getting at. mactel was saying that Google doesn't look at the source code and instead pulls the data directly from the database.

 

[mactel]

As many people are not sure, what they would get, with a dot tel domain, they might think, that $10, or $15 might be a "risk buy".

By reducing the price to $5, or a promotion price of $3, things would look differnt.
And the will to risk, would be bigger (risk purchase).

India, would be interesting to spread the word about .tel, and offer a good price, as many people in india use computers, and have a lot of computer skills, and would be able to grasp the usage of .tel easily.

Or China...

For example, eBay got a piece of the online auction market in China, by not charging any fees. In other words, you could either make stuff free, or give a trial version, or make a promotion offer, etc., to get be able to sell a product to a bigger amount of consumers.

Make dot tel as least as cheap as dot com...

 

[Kate]

Constantly moving the goalposts I see.
Not long ago we were told how .tel is cost-effective because you don't need hosting...
Even if .tel was free, few people would see the need for it, assuming they even know about it in the first place.

 

[mactel]

And then, again, there are people, who are curious, and like to experiment.
And then again, they can get two Big Mac's, for the price of a .tel.

 

[liming]

Unbelievable!
I checked google "site:.tel" from Aug. At first about 321,000,everyday increase 5,000. Sometimes decrease. At the begining of Sep,It's about 387,000,last week about 421,000
but today: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,300,000 for site:.tel. (0.15 seconds)

compare:
Results 1 - 10 of about 14,600,000 for site:.me. (0.21 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,060,000 for site:.asia. (0.05 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 90,900,000 for site:.tv. (0.10 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 861,000 for site:.pro. (0.13 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 331,000,000 for site:.ca. (0.65 seconds)

 

[mis_chiff]

Unbelievable!
I checked google "site:.tel" from Aug. At first about 321,000,everyday increase 5,000. Sometimes decrease. At the begining of Sep,It's about 387,000,last week about 421,000
but today: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,300,000 for site:.tel. (0.15 seconds)

I guess Google is playing games

Results 1 - 10 of about 463,000 for site:.tel (0.24 seconds)

 

[liming]

I guess Google is playing games

Results 1 - 10 of about 463,000 for site:.tel (0.24 seconds)

I check again and again,
If google.com redirect to google.ca It's 1,300,000
If google.cn,google.fr or google.co.uk It's 463,000
If google.us reditect to google.com It's 464,000


I don't know why
Maybe just google.ca show wrong data

 

[mis_chiff]

I'm searching with Google.ca here,
must be quirky today.

 

[Ader]

google.com from London coming up with 891,000

 

[Soofi]

Unbelievable!
I checked google "site:.tel" from Aug. At first about 321,000,everyday increase 5,000. Sometimes decrease. At the begining of Sep,It's about 387,000,last week about 421,000
but today: Results 1 - 10 of about 1,300,000 for site:.tel. (0.15 seconds)

compare:
Results 1 - 10 of about 14,600,000 for site:.me. (0.21 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,060,000 for site:.asia. (0.05 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 90,900,000 for site:.tv. (0.10 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 861,000 for site:.pro. (0.13 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 331,000,000 for site:.ca. (0.65 seconds)

google.com shows about 463,000 for site:.tel right now
google.co.in shows about 466,000 for site:.tel right now

 

[Steven]

I check again and again,
If google.com redirect to google.ca It's 1,300,000
If google.cn,google.fr or google.co.uk It's 463,000
If google.us reditect to google.com It's 464,000


I don't know why
Maybe just google.ca show wrong data

I'm using Google.ca

It's 464,000 with site:.tel