The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[MicroGuy]

.com is king. why do you go on with such garbage.

Okay, I was silently lurking in the background until this statement caught my attention. Garbage? Have you ever visited Alexa? How can you call a statement of the obvious "garbage"?

 

[cyberonyx]

Okay, I was silently lurking in the background until this statement caught my attention. Garbage? Have you ever visited Alexa? How can you call a statement of the obvious "garbage"?

garbage refers to his constant ramblings....

now for something thats not garbage. advertising placement for the .tel domain

 

[MicroGuy]

garbage refers to his constant ramblings....

You call it "constant ramblings". I call it thoughtful and considerate expressions of the truth by a person possessing vast domaining wisdom and common sense knowledge. Best of luck with your future .TEL domaining adventures.

 

[jagdotme]

I have an interesting question for you and every .tel supporter here that believes .tel can one day rival .com at least with certain keywords.

If you were offered a choice between Pizza.com and Pizza.tel today with the catch that you take ownership in 10 years, which one would you pick?

(I have a feeling many .tel supporters will avoid answering this)

Pizza.tel Because if I was to make a Directory it will be faster and easy to use on a mobile phone. Going On the bases that within 10 years people will be on mobile phones more than pc/laptops.

And I reckon about 65% people that surf the net are mostly going on sites like facebook/myspace/youtube. Which can work on mobile phone as well. ( I have a nokia n96) but when I find a number on a .com site I cant seem to click on the number so it rings, but on a .tel I can.

From my experience I hate using the web on a mobile, but will use it for a good .tel directory as my bill is always high ringing 118118

Good Question in a way.

Jag

 

[tkstark]

now for something thats not garbage. advertising placement for the .tel domain

now this is something interesting - the sort of thing i still torture myself (by viewing this thread) to see mentioned and discussed.

guys (i mean the non-bashers) if you stop engaging these guys (meaning the bashers), they'll get bored and go away. ignore them. in fact, why don't we all just avoid this thread for the rest of the week.

then next week, after they move on, we can talk about something .tel related that is interesting.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

.tel has a shot because its made for mobile. will you still be at your pc in 10 years typing this garbage, or go with the flow? .tel is positioned to rival .com on mobiles

This is just ridiculous and proves that you are out to shill .tel and have no shame.

Any developer concerned about mobile users can design a site that works flawlessly on mobile. It's simply about designing for a smaller resolution and less bells & whistles. The only reason we don't see more sites that look pretty on mobile is because the average developer can't yet be bothered to design for mobile. The traffic just isn't there yet. Specifically, North American traffic since this is the dominant region in online advertising. So keep an eye on mobile internet trends in the US.

 

[WordWalker]

Which of the following domain names would best describe forum posters who have grossly overstayed their welcome and would be best served by immediately running away to join the circus?

A. eOutlines.com
B. Candy.tel
C. eAstronaut.com
D. iPunish.com
E. PatheticLoser.com:hehe:

 

[FreakySteve]

... If you were offered a choice between Pizza.com and Pizza.tel today with the catch that you take ownership in 10 years, which one would you pick?

This is a potentially interesting topic for discussion, although without the proper qualifiers, it's a loaded statement.

All things need to be equal. Meaning, in this hypothetical World, lets pretend that "pizza" is a reserved word that was never allowed domain usage until now or 10 years from now. So, both pizza.com and pizza.tel would NOT have the benefits of backlinks, age, marketing or any other factor that creates an irrelevant comparison.

Without this being the case then, obviously, who wouldn't want any .something if it has years of marketing, backlinks, etc., etc.?

Now if you mean, both are registered today, but I could have one of them in 10 years, which one would it be?

I'd want to know who the initial owner was going to be and that would influence my decision, not the TLD.

Properly qualified, this can get more interesting.

What has yet to be done is a true, direct comparison of .tel to another TLD, .com or otherwise. The statements that have been floating around about other TLDs outranking a .tel have all been biased towards the non-.tel domains by using examples that are clearly not direct comparisons.

 

[bmugford]

I am sorry but anyone who could justify wanting Pizza.tel over Pizza.com on any time scale has very limited credibility.

It is like asking which will have more value in 10 years a Ferrari or a skateboard.

Brad

 

[tel-buy.com]

.tel... i dont see it having any value..

it sucks more than .ws/.cc/.name/and .mobi

it will only be good for telephone numbers, maybe?

You Guys Kill Me :lol:


Try telling Yellow Pages they have no value !

If you can't figure out how to monetize .tel OVER other domain names you need help !

Yellow Pages does BILLION$ online from searchers looking for Category/Keyword related Websites, Companies, People, etc.

If you have a Keyword.tel domain it is GOLD.

.tel is the ONLY tld with it's own Extension-Exclusive Search Engine

JUST TYPE POKER IN WIKIPEDIA and you see What you can do with .TEL ... AND SO MUCH MORE !!!


The Term "Flea Brain" doesn't just mean "small minded", it simply means that if you put a flea in a jar with a lid on it and leave it there, the flea will jump against it trying to get out and eventually is "trained" to jump and stop short of the lid. Later, the lid removed, the flea will still jump and stop short of where the lid was. (How a flea circus is created)

STOP BEING FLEA-BRAINS !:bingo:

.TEL WILL EXPLODE versus Telephone Books as Small WIKI style Sub-Sites With INCREDIBLE potential for Listing Revenue from websites, clubs, casinos, online and offline, ad revenue, etc.

PhoneBook, Website Directory, Information Center ... the possibilities are ENDLESS !

 

[morganga]

... The traffic just isn't there yet. Specifically, North American traffic since this is the dominant region in online advertising. So keep an eye on mobile internet trends in the US.

I don't believe the US are trend setters in the mobile space even though they may be the dominant region in online advertising.
Europe and Asia are years ahead of the US in terms of mobile culture.

european-vs-american-mobile-phone-use

In the US, a cellphone is a tool. In Europe, a mobile phone is a lifestyle.

If you're still having trouble picturing the difference in attitudes, look at it this way – many people in Europe feel about their mobiles the way that Californians feel about their cars.

why-america-lags-behind-the-world-s-top-technology-leaders

Much of Asia actually lagged so far behind North America in Internet connection speeds that the first taste of broadband for many Asians was through a mobile phone. So when faced with the choice between a stay-at-home monster PC as a broadband access tool, or a lightweight, portable device, many opted for the latter.

america-15-years-behind-world

 

[plaggypig]

.tel in your scenario would be similarly desirable as toll free numbers that spell a word are today. So take your pick: laptops.com, laptops.tel or 1-800-LAPTOPS.

In such a scenario I think it would depend on the particular name, i.e. your example of pizza.

If you were offered a choice between Pizza.com and Pizza.tel today with the catch that you take ownership in 10 years, which one would you pick?

It's not much of a dilemma, since I believe pizza.com will at least hold or improve in value, whereas .tel has to gain adoption. Given my own particular utility of wealth I'd take the safer asset, but if I had Bill Gates wealth then I'd take go with my belief and take the risk. However, if it were a choice between pizza.net/org/any and .tel, I'd take pizza.tel without hesitation.

It is like asking which will have more value in 10 years a Ferrari or a skateboard.

Glad to see you appreciate the aspect of speed

Edit: Arguments that fantasise over success or failure are stupid - we all have our own analysis of trends and beliefs in the future, and one side will be proven wrong eventually, then we can gloat. Until then focus on the journey, and let's back on topic!

 

[mwzd]

We've heard all this mobile internet bs before from the .mobi crowd.

Look what happened there.

:td:

 

[Kate]

Even if .tel replaces the phone number

You mean there are people who believe that ?

.tel has a shot because its made for mobile. will you still be at your pc in 10 years typing this garbage, or go with the flow? .tel is positioned to rival .com on mobiles

So it's competing with .mobi ? Interesting ? :hehe:

 

[Shahid7]

Its ALiveeeee

The New Release of Telhosting is already active check your .tel and groom them


Release v74 of the Community TelHosting software will be deployed to the live environment on Wednesday 19th August 2009 at 06:00 UTC.

This release sees the introduction of privacy at all domain levels (i.e., whereas it was only possible to have private data in example.tel it will now be possible to add to sublevel.example.tel, sub.sublevel.example.tel etc. - full details are available within the updated user guide) as well as the additional improvements listed below:

- Free text keyword maximum length increased from 255 to 2,000 characters

- Optimized CTH processing for large domains such that the text header loads in a timely fashion

- Optimization of the storeRecord SOAP command to avoid slow down with larger domains

- Move to / Copy to dialogs - Additional logic added to initially only show folders from the current domain. This increases performance for large portfolios

- Full front end support for “global” profiles

- Minor multi-lingual inconsistencies corrected

- Support for carriage returns within Keywords

- Disable phone number validation checking added to the SMS contact type

- Removal of front end warning when user’s browser language is not supported

 

[Ader]

Mobile internet use in the UK is gaining ground fast. America will catch up, eventually.

 

[WordWalker]

Pardon my interruption, but might someone kindly offer me directions to the nearest naysayers thread for the opportunity to post gleeful, wild-eyed, dismissive, over-the-top comments on how a domain name like ChinaTours.com could never, ever, EVER (especially in the midst of a global financial crisis) sell for anything remotely close to the sum of two-hundred thousand dol-

Oh, wait a minute, what's that you say?

Never mind...

 

[mwzd]

Thats a .com he sold. Why don't you ask Rick what he thinks of .tel?

Will help you understand the caution, though tbh, i'm done. If you can't learn from .mobi / .tv / .asia, then I guess you'll never learn. Read my blog post about .asia if you want to learn how people get suckered in... or don't.

But I will say this only a very small percentage of .tels will actually make money for their owners, don't put in the kids college fund, they won't forgive you for it. Even in domains, there are better keywords in other extensions that will make money for sure, get those.

 

[plaggypig]

The only reason trade occurs is when there is a disparity in value perception - Rick must have believed ChinaTours.com was worth LESS than $200k, and the buyer thought it was worth MORE to them. We don't know what either party thought it was actually worth.

Why don't you ask Rick what he thinks of .tel?

No disrespect to Rick, but why is that relevant here?

Will help you understand the caution, though tbh, i'm done. If you can't learn from .mobi / .tv / .asia, then I guess you'll never learn. Read my blog post about .asia if you want to learn how people get suckered in... or don't.

I read your blog post and I'll respond with a comment later - this isn't the appropriate place to get into such a discussion.

 

[WordWalker]

Thats a .com he sold. Why don't you ask Rick what he thinks of .tel?

Will help you understand the caution, though tbh, i'm done. If you can't learn from .mobi / .tv / .asia, then I guess you'll never learn. Read my blog post about .asia if you want to learn how people get suckered in... or don't.

But I will say this only a very small percentage of .tels will actually make money for their owners, don't put in the kids college fund, they won't forgive you for it. Even in domains, there are better keywords in other extensions that will make money for sure, get those.

All I'm saying is that this domain space never fails to surprise or amaze. Prior to Rick's announcement, it would have been interesting to see what the NamePros appraisal thread would have come up with for ChinaTours.com. No doubt, it would have been nowhere near the $200,000 mark. That was my point.

In fact, Rick's sale makes me feel pretty good about names in my company portfolio like these:

LongevityTours.com (Not-To-Die-For Travel)

MobileWalkingTours.com (no more docents or borrowed tape players, just your GPS enabled mobile device and a head-set)

SanFranciscoTours.Co.Uk (major tourist destination from the UK)