The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[GeoOwners]

Check out this photo of webnames' billboard advertising in Vancouver.

---------- Post added at 08:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 PM ----------

storage.tel recently sold on Sedo for $4k, so out of curiosity I checked up on the new registrant details and was pleased to see that it's now owned by Storage.com (Extra Space Storage). It's nice to see a company recognise the value of generic category domains, and .tel in particular.

Just for the record I think they got an absolute steal at that price. :tu:

Thanks for that info...great news

 

[virtualwords]

I really don't think it will be to long before we all see lots more larger companies advertising there .tel.

It's only a matter of time and I think that lots of us will be rewared for our time and effort that we have put into our .tel domains as many more people will know and about them and will want to be part of it.

Regards

Gav

 

[MicroGuy]

I really don't think it will be to long before we all see lots more larger companies advertising there .tel.

It's only a matter of time and I think that lots of us will be rewared for our time and effort that we have put into our .tel domains as many more people will know and about them and will want to be part of it.

Regards

Gav

Run for the hills. Grab your ammo, and run for the hills. This extension is about to tank due to Telnic's desire to control the "A" records. A one-size-fits-all static template that looks like a 90's retro "under-construction" page is not going to cut it in the 21st Century. IMO.

 

[jacpar]

Run for the hills. Grab your ammo, and run for the hills. This extension is about to tank due to Telnic's desire to control the "A" records. A one-size-fits-all static template that looks like a 90's retro "under-construction" page is not going to cut it in the 21st Century. IMO.

What do you mean ? I really don't understand.

 

[saucey]

Hopefully you have more success than the Boston TelCamp.

Photos: Picasa Web Albums - contact - TelCampBoston...

It looks like the only people who showed up were the two or three Indians who presented it.

I'm a .tel believer.. as everybody knows... But holy crap man, those photo's from the Boston TelCamp are pretty hurting! Why even post 'em?

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Which will occur when a major mobile carrier partners with Telnic and begins to bundle .tel domains with its promotional packages. Do you understand that when this happens

This stuff about .tel domains being an alternative to dialing phone numbers is a very radical concept. Are there any indications that the cell companies are headed in this direction, or is it just wishful thinking by a small segment of domainers? Can you point to any major tech news coverage of this plan?

is it any wonder that so many domainers respond with the overwhelming level of interest and enthusiasm you see in this thread?

I was once walking through an institution where a kid told me that a stale looking brownie was yummy. That doesn't mean it was. Take a closer look at who is supporting .tel and who isn't.

 

[onspec]

It looks like the only people who showed up were the two or three Indians who presented it.

We'll do our best.

 

[DN_Hunter]

I'm a .tel believer.. as everybody knows... But holy crap man, those photo's from the Boston TelCamp are pretty hurting! Why even post 'em?

I agree. I am a believer (at the moment) in .Tel, but I have to admit looking at those pictures made me scratch my head and wonder....

Please tell me those pictures were during setup and/or rehearsal...

 

[gkjunior]

Why Are You Posting ?

This stuff about .tel domains being an alternative to dialing phone numbers is a very radical concept. Are there any indications that the cell companies are headed in this direction, or is it just wishful thinking by a small segment of domainers? Can you point to any major tech news coverage of this plan?


I was once walking through an institution where a kid told me that a stale looking brownie was yummy. That doesn't mean it was. Take a closer look at who is supporting .tel and who isn't.

Again DubDub on behalf of the many short sighted .Tel enthusiasts that are here for the advancement, and support of .Tel your posts are overwhelmingly negative, short sighted, and simply leave on overall bad taste in this thread.

Most posts are about the potential possibilities and the domainers here understand potential meaning we don’t know. On the other hand you post as if you KNOW and we all know that no one knows so stop posting as if you know, because it does not make you look good at all.

As many times as you posted why not just join acroplex as he has a special forum for you specifically for .Tel Your insight will be highly regarded there.

 

[plaggypig]

Here are the latest .tel videos produced by Webnames:

.TEL for Realtors Interview - Alexis Palkowski

Guy gets locked out, cat goes crazy - .tel to the rescue

411 takes a beating - .tel

:tu:

Regarding the small group of critics (who I remind you bought up a bunch of .tel names!) I would just remind you of one of George Bernard Shaw's great maxims, "Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it."

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Most posts are about the potential possibilities and the domainers here understand potential meaning we don’t know. On the other hand you post as if you KNOW and we all know that no one knows so stop posting as if you know, because it does not make you look good at all.

It's not too difficult to look ahead about 5 years and come up with accurate generalizations. Think back to 2004. Everything here in 2009 was on the radar. Nothing about .tel is on the 5 year radar.

The most valuable .tel speculation is that it will become an accepted alternative to dialing phone numbers just like domain names masked IP addresses.

Phone numbers are controlled directly by governments or though organizations funded by them using a standardized set of rules similar to how the US appointed ICANN to oversee domain names. One might hope that they would do the same for Telnic, but let's not forget that InterNIC (owned by NetSol and AT&T) controlled domains until 1998 when the US government oversaw the creation of ICANN and stripped InterNIC of it's power.

Telnic is more similar to InterNIC than ICANN. If keyword style phone numbers are going to take off, an organization using standards that all phone companies follow will have to be set up. "The Man" will not allow Telnic, a private entity like InterNIC was, to grab this kind of power.

 

[plaggypig]

It's not too difficult to look ahead about 5 years and come up with accurate generalizations. Think back to 2004. Everything here in 2009 was on the radar. Nothing about .tel is on the 5 year radar.

Well let's see, .tel was conceived in 2000 and by 2004 a proof of concept had been developed in partnership with *cough* Siemens. Your radar is borked.

I see no issue scaling up to tens/hundreds of millions of names in the .tel namespace. Aren't there about 90 million .com's now? Telnic is regulated by ICANN, but whether or not these responsibilities eventually fall under some kind of international governance is up for debate.

Stop flailing around in excuses and conspiracy theories. "The Man" is not going to deprive you of your .tel names. From dubdubdubdot's cold dead hands!

 

[DubDubDubDot]

Well let's see, .tel was conceived in 2000 and by 2004 a proof of concept had been developed in partnership with *cough* Siemens. Your radar is borked.

I'm talking about how it's pretty clear about 5 years in advance what has a shot at being really big and what doesn't (but not necessarily by who, that is very difficult to pinpoint).

I forgot who said it in here first, but .tel is either going to be big or a big flop. I agree with that.

If generally what you see is what you get, .tel was DOA in terms of domaining.

If... IF... it catches on as a phone number alternative, then it's obviously huge for domainers. But the thing is, this may or may not be in motion by Telnic, may or may not have interest with cell companies and may or may not have interest with the general public. Seems like with that many questions your money is better invested in certain beaten down stocks given how long .tel will take to pay off, if at all.

I see no issue scaling up to tens/hundreds of millions of names in the .tel namespace. Aren't there about 90 million .com's now?

How is .tel going to scale up to hundreds of millions when .com could not scale without a severe loss of quality and the need for added extensions?

I'm guesstimating that about 95% of .com's are not developed and never will be because the domains are so undesirable. Take Alexa rankings for instance. Once you get up to 1 million we're talking garbage sites, and that is all TLD's. Yet .tel alone is going to handle everyone with a cellphone, a MUCH LARGER demand than developers? I am extremely skeptical of this. There would have to be other .tel-like extensions, but that is extreme speculation and looking more than a decade down the road.

 

[plaggypig]

I agree there hasn't been much media coverage compared to something like .mobi, and I know that some of the more prominent people in the domaining industry don't quite know yet whether to embrace it or not - everybody is waiting for signals to tell them what to do. The 'first come first serve' principle of the landrush phase also guaranteed a slow start in terms of an aftermarket, but that's ultimately to the advantage of everybody.

On your second point, carriers could use their own namespaces, e.g. dubdubdubdot.att.tel. But I also think you generally underestimate the breadth of possibility that language affords us. Just look at the number of Hotmail/Yahoo Mail/Gmail accounts out there - hundreds of millions in each. Then consider .tel will eventually support IDNs. And finally there is some builtin capacity for expansion, i.e. 2 letter names have been reserved which could theoretically be used to delegate country codes.

Anyway, it's good to see you at least entertaining the possibilities.

 

[virtualwords]

Yes I agree with that.

DubDubDubDot it is nice to see that there was some maybes and some positive thoughts in your post.

Gav

 

[hakita]

Hi All,

.tel is great and easy to manage, but i just can't figure out how to 301 redirect between several .tel
Example: i want to change from myold.tel to mynew.tel with a 301 redirect. how to do so ?

Just set up depannage.tel ( troubleshooting/maintenance in english ) with phone contact of technical guy around Paris

Best regards

 

[FrenchTel]

301 redirection

This is not possible Hakita, as DNS doesn't redirect anything.

Henri Asseily answered this question (in French) on ToutPointTel's Forums, here.

Best,

 

[FreakySteve]

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TelCamp Toronto 1 Announced.

We've decided to bite the bullet and announce that we are preparing to host Canada's first TelCamp. The tentative date is August 15, 2009 at a downtown location to be announced shortly.

If you'd like to present, recommend topics for discussion or even contribute to help defray some of the costs, we'd love to hear from you.

All comments, updates etc should be posted here on Telsters and at the TelCamp website located here at: TelCamp - TelCampus

Cheers,
TelTrio

Hosting this event on the tail of a domaining conference is a sure way to get a decent attendance. :tu:

I will be there and am looking forward to chatting with fellow Telsters (and maybe some .tel haters )

 

[onspec]

Toronto TelCamp 1 Gaining Steam

Heyo,

Great to see lots of folks pitching in to help kick-start TelCamp Toronto 1. The "agenda" is taking shape nicely - although I use the term agenda loosely.

We have several confirmations of attendance from people in real estate and mainstream web design and development and even a few corporate glitterati are sniffing at the edges.

The first 50 people to sign up (and show up) :p will be pleasantly surprised.

Come on Toronto and area NamePros. A lot of people from across the country and internationally are looking at this event that will set the TelCamp benchmark. I know that you're more than up for the challenge!

Go to TelCamp - TelCampus and sign up.

Select email invitations and our first press release will be going out today.

Cheers,

 

[zoogo]

I like that .tel is advertising..

I liked the .tel commercial where the man wrote his .tel on the train and the othe guy wrote his phone number, but it doesn't work like that.

The truth is, .tel is nothing more thna a pipe dream because it is so limited. I can setup a .com to do the exact same thing, with a better template.

I like the extension, and I think deep down the .tel domainers are only keeping/investing because they hope TelNIC will one day remove the restriction.

As was said earlier, this is the 21st century, things that limit us are out of style.

So let's presume the wild fantasies of the domainers here on this thread are correct.

Someone tells me their phone number, 991-911-9911, on the spot, number for number, as I type it into my phone, add their name and press 'Save'.

Someone tells me their .tel domain, I have to go on the internet, waste my data plan bandwidth, or wait till I get home, transfer the number from there, and their name, and what if they don't have their name on their page! Or, what if they have multiple phone numbers? How do I know which one they want me to call? Or do I call all of the numbers?

They are adding extra steps and complicating this whole process of contacting someone.

The truth is that the world of communication does not work in the way that .tel wants it to.

The only hope for this TLD is if they remove their silly 'we control everyone and everything bid for world domination' limitation on the DNS and allow the great TLD that it is (in so far as the spelling of the extension) to flourish.