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Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?
 
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probably will get 1 .tel only. for personal use.

planning to have .tel printed on my name card like this :

Name
phone
email
etc

"For more contact information myname.tel"
 
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saucey said:
I still believe it is possible to make a $h!t Load of money by setting up your .tel as a directory for business.
How ?
It takes development and hard work to make money, even with a decent TLD, which .tel is not. The key is to build traffic, attract visitors and last but not least provide a useful service and a great experience so your visitors will be coming back.
Ask yourself: would you even use a .tel domain when looking for directory information ?
 
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sdsinc said:
How ?
It takes development and hard work to make money, even with a decent TLD, which .tel is not. The key is to build traffic, attract visitors and last but not least provide a useful service and a great experience so your visitors will be coming back.
Ask yourself: would you even use a .tel domain when looking for directory information ?


Yes, I would use .tel for certain things.... ie. to find a hotel. It will be useful to find a hotel because everything is at your finger tips and available INSTANTLY. If you are looking for a hotel, you could use your mobile device to search for a hotel in that particular city, in a particular price range and of a particular calliber.

You would not have to find a phonebook or a computer.... you would not even need to know the name of a hotel in that city...just type in hotel.tel and follow the links.

Question... Have you ever used the YellowPages to look up a business?? If you have, then there is a good bet you would use the .tel extension at some point too.. It is essentially the YellowPages for the electronic age!

I realise some of the "old timers" can't wrap their heads around anything other than com/net/org, but like everything... things change and/or improve.

Do I think .tel will be an instant hit????? NO. I think it will take a little bit of time, but once Public Joe becomes aware of it.... .tel (for certain things) will be unstoppable! Think of how much we love our mobile phones...look at text messaging and gaming..... people love being able to do everything from these little things that fit in their top pocket!! You don't have to search for a phonebook or find a computer terminal, nor do you have to wade through endless pages on a search engine site about a single hotel or hotel events or hotel employment or whatever else uses "hotel" as a keyword... just whip out your phone/blackberry or whatever and enter hotel.tel and you can conveniently have the phone number/address/map directions to/website address/price ranges/ratings and more.

As I stated earlier, the right name could make a ton of cash.... a name like monkey.tel will not IMO.

Cheers!

Saucey McSauce :)
 
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sdsinc said:
How ?
It takes development and hard work to make money, even with a decent TLD, which .tel is not. The key is to build traffic, attract visitors and last but not least provide a useful service and a great experience so your visitors will be coming back.
Ask yourself: would you even use a .tel domain when looking for directory information ?

I concur.

I know what .tel is and does.
I'm pretty sure the only times I will ever look at a .tel 'domain' is when I'm reasonably sure I know who owns it i.e. if I wanted to call Joe Bloggs Industries and their number was not to hand, I may remember seeing joebloggsindustries.tel on their contact details and go there for the number.
Say my fictional company, Joe Bloggs Industries, made widgets, I'm not going to go to widgets.tel and wade through a directory (like hotels.tel) to find Joe Bloggs Industries' entry; likewise if I didn't know the company name and was looking for a widget supplier. I'd grab my local phone book or go to yell.com (or similar site) because I know these contain a comprehensive list of companies, whereas it's likely widgets.tel will not.

I suggest everyone who's getting over-excited go back to the telnic site and read again what you can actually do with the sites then ask yourself honestly can I create a big enough directory and spend the amount of money (millions?) required to market this one name to the degree where your average internet user thinks "instead of going to the pizzeria section of my yellow pages, or typing it in to yell.com, I'm going to try that pizzeria.tel site". I'm not saying it can't be done- it can, but it's going to take a hell of a lot of time and money.
With this in mind, I think .tel's best chance is to be marketed as an extension for finding contact info "on the go"- if you've had a look at hotels.tel on your mobile phone it zips along at lightning speed, and most importantly when you've found your result you can download a vCard. (It is brilliant :tu: )

I think anyone planning on buying a generic-y type name, and not planning on sticking a few $ยฃโ‚ฌ's behind it for marketing, is going to be dependent on companies buy their own .tel names, using them and marketing them so that there is greater .tel-awareness amongst users. Even if that happens, I bet a lot still won't go to whatever.tel and stick with the likes of yell.com
(Here's where I can draw a parallel with .mobi, a friend was looking up some results on skysports.com on a mobile phone and it was taking a while to load, I asked "is there a skysports.mobi?", the reply- "what the hell's dot mobey?!" If there had been marketing by anyone of any sort of .mobi name he may have thought to try the .mobi whether or not he knew there was a .mobi site... I'm not picking on .mobi, I'm sure .biz would be met with similar questioning but that's a real-life example)

I can see some of this sounds a bit negative, but I absolutely love the idea behind .tel, and only wish it came around 10+ years ago. If it had, I'm sure it would have become the de facto standard contact system on the internet and mobile devices by now.

To anyone who does try to build a directory, please keep us up-to-date with your progress, and I do wish you all the best.
 
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sdsinc said:
How ?
It takes development and hard work to make money, even with a decent TLD, which .tel is not. The key is to build traffic, attract visitors and last but not least provide a useful service and a great experience so your visitors will be coming back.
Ask yourself: would you even use a .tel domain when looking for directory information ?



I would use one for sure, reason, AD FREE, which really is ideal. Example,

I travel for business frequently, sooo If I am in St. Louis and need a good pizza joint, I hate pizza Hut and other chains...

I type in Pizza.tel,
Click on State Missouri. loading...
click on city St. Louis loading....
now I have a list of 40 pizza places AND ALL there contact info, and I didnt have to see one misleading ad, or wait for stupid graphics to load and best part is unlike a 411 service whic charges me, if I don't like one place after I call I choose another which is right in front of me....

BEST PART HERE:
After I hang up the phone ordering pizza, I click on the address, becuase on my blackberry I can click an address and have it open in my GPS!!!! Now I know EXACTLY where I am going.....
 
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JamesDavid said:
I PRE REGGED 5 names, so they are about $400/each... I got an email this morning saying that a name I pre-regged about 2 months ago is a restricted name: "info.tel" so now I have 4 pre-regged......

*** One thing I do think is funny though.... .tel main site is a .org.... not a .tel..

********** Also why do you think GoDaddy didnt become a reg for the .tel domains?

Not sure, IIRC 133 other registrars offer .tel, including some big ones: networksolutions, name, eurodns, etc.
 
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Some of the reasons for using this dog are rather funny and flimsy under the tiniest of examinations. For example the idea that people will go to plumber.tel to look for a plumber. If they want to find a plumber in their town they will go to google or yahoo like they always have. Or use their yellow pages directory that is dropped off at their door for free. No average joe or jane knows what .tel is nor do they give a carp. Saw these same pipe dreams with mobi - still no traffic two years later, and now .me - with absolutely no traffic but .tel will magically be different...

.tel - as useful as teets on a fish.
 
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whitebark said:
Some of the reasons for using this dog are rather funny and flimsy under the tiniest of examinations. For example the idea that people will go to plumber.tel to look for a plumber. If they want to find a plumber in their town they will go to google or yahoo like they always have. Or use their yellow pages directory that is dropped off at their door for free. No average joe or jane knows what .tel is nor do they give a carp. Saw these same pipe dreams with mobi - still no traffic two years later, and now .me - with absolutely no traffic but .tel will magically be different...

.tel - as useful as teets on a fish.


For being such a non-believer you sure do frequent this thread often! Maybe you have a soft spot for the .tel and the standards it holds....

the thing that excites me most is this.....

.TEL HAS STANDARDS.... IT IS DIFFERENT... yes maybe in a bad way maybe in a good way but it has uniform standards which makes it different than any other domain... .mobi is no different than .com .ws or .cc ...

I firmly believe the last thing the world needs is another extension, so i was happy to see that at least this extension serves a purpose and will hold the name to standards...

Don't forget to with enough backing .tel will continued to be developed....
 
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Oxford.tel
UniversityOfOxford.tel
Harvard.tel

have been successfully secured by the respective schools.
 
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saucey said:
I still believe it is possible to make a $h!t Load of money by setting up your .tel as a directory for business.

Again, using the "hotel" example... You could act like a "yellow pages" for hotels! Hotels from all over the world could pay to list on YOUR .tel directory.

It would be much more convenient to type hotels.tel into your blackberry/cellphone/iphone or whatever... and instantly hook into a directory with phone numbers, addresses and website links to hotels in the area which you choose! It could be broken down into Countrys/states/provinces/city's/territory's/districts or even price ranges or ratings... ie 1 STAR - 5 STAR.

I think there is a very good chance for people to make BIG BUCKS with the right names! I don't think you will make big money with names like poker.tel or monkey.tel, however I may be wrong! Just my opinion!

Cheers!

Saucey says Ahoy!


Saucey that was very well said, i m new here and i did register .tel 10 secs right after they opened their pre orders i have around 10 and hopefully chances are 90/100 :) lets hope for the best

it was wise not to invest my orders into country name or other things like trademark so i guess so far i m safe.

as you said .tel is made for connectivity with people through all mediums now if you talk about .tel against other domain or site.

i personally use blackberry bold , if i load a page on it and look for contacts then i need a pen to even right it down and all that. where as if i go to like you said hotel.tel i see it there and i click on it and it automatically starts dialing or when i click on email it takes me straight to email them and make a booking on the move.

buying domains name of people or verbs would be unwise in my opinion if you really want to make money on .tel make it more creative and something that we all use in daily life for which we have to lookup our phonebooks or ask reference from others.

.tel is a hit 10/10 , please do not spoil the image of it and let people lose money incase they can have an opportunity.

Thanks

Shahid

sdsinc said:
How ?
It takes development and hard work to make money, even with a decent TLD, which .tel is not. The key is to build traffic, attract visitors and last but not least provide a useful service and a great experience so your visitors will be coming back.
Ask yourself: would you even use a .tel domain when looking for directory information ?


thanks for ur post, yes i belive that will all my heart but .tel is a phonebook/directory and to make it famous with different words
yes it will take time but if you have generic one keyword words like
hotel or hotels for example it will be indexed quit good.

yes i will look up a .tel for i fully support it.
 
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Could a mod rename this the "The official .tel hype thread"?
:)

Shahid7 said:
.tel is a hit 10/10 , please do not spoil the image of it and let people lose money incase they can have an opportunity.

.tel is a very, very long way from being a 'hit'. It's not to say it won't be (if I had a crystal ball I'd be a lot richer).

All the comments you perceive as 'spoiling the image' seem to be containing constructive criticism of the extension and what it can do. If anyone's leaning towards negative it is because they're trying to save you money now, not lose it for you in the long run...
 
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JamesDavid said:
I would use one for sure, reason, AD FREE, which really is ideal. Example,

I travel for business frequently, sooo If I am in St. Louis and need a good pizza joint, I hate pizza Hut and other chains...

I type in Pizza.tel,
Click on State Missouri. loading...
click on city St. Louis loading....
now I have a list of 40 pizza places AND ALL there contact info, and I didnt have to see one misleading ad, or wait for stupid graphics to load and best part is unlike a 411 service whic charges me, if I don't like one place after I call I choose another which is right in front of me....

BEST PART HERE:
After I hang up the phone ordering pizza, I click on the address, becuase on my blackberry I can click an address and have it open in my GPS!!!! Now I know EXACTLY where I am going.....

Very well said, i perosonally belive in the same let us all keep the spirit of .tel alive and not let anyone ruin it just becoz they think .tel is just a telephone and all that.

Good luck everyone with ur preorders including me:D
 
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JamesDavid said:
.TEL HAS STANDARDS.... IT IS DIFFERENT...
Each TLD is delivered full of promises, and the registries will hype it to death and tell you how it is so 'different' and unique but in the end... it's just another TLD.
The sunrise results are not too encouraging BTW. It looks like end users fail to see the benefits.

Maybe the concept looks 'cool' on paper but when the landrush is over you will realize you are stuck with worthless names that get zero natural traffic :imho: Good luck promoting .tel.
I don't even see how it's going to be financially viable. It bears the characteristics of a .travel in the making.
Anyway, here are my .tel preregs:

:gl:
 
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JamesDavid said:
For being such a non-believer you sure do frequent this thread often! Maybe you have a soft spot for the .tel and the standards it holds....

Don't forget to with enough backing .tel will continued to be developed....

Oh the old "shut up you are ruining the hype" without saying just that. It's a forum for discussion. If you want a one-sided echo-chamber start your own forum for .tel and exclude everyone who doesn't share your vision.

As for your last assertion - read the thousands of mobi threads proclaiming the exact same thing.

.tel - will get no traffic.
.tel - as a directory? Yet it has to compete against thousands of existing directories, long-established search engines and yellow pages in the hands of every North American.
.tel - extremely hard to monetize - even harder than .mobi
.tel - duplication of existing content for reasons even more contrived than mobi.
.tel - restricts what you can and cannot do with it

Where's the upside? Do the positives REALLY outweigh the negatives?
 
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whitebark said:
Oh the old "shut up you are ruining the hype" without saying just that. It's a forum for discussion. If you want a one-sided echo-chamber start your own forum for .tel and exclude everyone who doesn't share your vision.

In all seriousness I meant it as a joke, you don't have to get all worked up friend.....


ALSO,

That is awesome to hear about the email option!!!
 
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Ms Domainer said:

:tu:

whitebark said:
Oh the old "shut up you are ruining the hype" without saying just that. It's a forum for discussion. If you want a one-sided echo-chamber start your own forum for .tel and exclude everyone who doesn't share your vision.

Na-na-na-na-nah I can't hear you!!!
:)


sdsinc said:
Maybe the concept looks 'cool' on paper but when the landrush is over you will realize you are stuck with worthless names that get zero natural traffic :imho: Good luck promoting .tel.

It's sad to think that this probably accurately sums up what will happen. And yet...

Na-na-na-na-nah I can't hear you!!!
 
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spoofies said:
I think I scrolled through all of them and saw 'joker.tel' and 'partypoker.tel' but didn't see poker.tel.

I thought it was interesting how microsoft regged

microsoft.tel
xbox.tel
xbox360.tel

I also saw

mcdonalds.tel
happymeal.tel

Look like companies are regging multiple trademarks.

Where do you see that on the website?
 
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.h2o. said:
Where do you see that on the website?

*

That was my bad. It was Joker.tel that I saw.

*
 
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