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For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?
 
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What's the difference between .tel and .mobi?

Apparently, a lot!

From what I can tell, .tel is primarily for mobile device use. It's like an electronic business card that can be updated immediately by the owner and be fully accessible to mobile devices. Users will be able to set their own parameters (private info, accessible only to a specified list and public, available to all), but within a very specific format. In other words, you won't be able to add bells and whistles to it; its simplicity is its strength. As long as you pay your registration fee, your .tel address is something you can place on a physical business card, a name that will never change, even if you change jobs, emails, etc.--that is, if you remember to keep your .tel info current.

You can also add keywords for search engine optimization. For example, for my profile, I would add "writer," "educator," "domainer" as my main keywords.

This info comes from here:

http://www.telnic.com/registrars/downloads/vipguide.pdf

And, yes, there is a web presence, albeit minimal. See:

http://justin.vip.tel/

I'm not connected in any way with telnic. Like all of you, I'm just curious as to why this service is any different than any other TLD. I would think that you could set up a simple "card" yourself that would resolve well on mobile devices. You would just have to refrain from putting a lot of bells and whistles on the "card."

For example, why couldn't I take writer [dot] me (which I own and is not for sale) and set up an electronic card on a subdomain, such as Ms[dot]writer[dot].me (don't click; the subdomain doesn't exist).

Or you could dedicate an entire domain for this purpose; I recently registered a three-letter .me, which would work well for a card (because it's short), although it's not very descriptive of me. On the other hand, I was able to nab my son's initials (.me).

From what I can tell, the only advantages to .tel: (1) the possibility of getting your first name or last name domain as an electronic business card. Or a descriptor of what you do for a living, such as lawyer or doctor, which, of course, are gone in other TLDs. (2) Having a preset card template.

Flipping possibilities? At this point, minimal. It's really expensive (landrush "premium" = $375.00 for three years). In the future? Maybe, but it's a long shot.

Having said this, I have applied for two, hoping to get one, but not totally upset if I get neither. Kinda hoping I don't get both, though, though I'll deal with it if I do (one is an extreme long shot).

Here's why I have applied for .tel (with the hope of getting one): at some point (and I'm guessing here--I have no inside info), it could be possible to use a .tel for your public Whois information. Certainly the infrastucture would be there. The .tel offers privacy and public features, and the owner decides what is private and public (though I would think that a registrar would specify a minimum amount of available info required).

IMO, investing heavily in .tel would probably not be wise (unless regular prices drop dramatically); in essence, you're selling "contact management" features.

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JamesDavid said:
*** One thing I do think is funny though.... .tel main site is a .org.... not a .tel..

...well wouldn't this be because you can't develop a website on a .tel name?

:bingo:
 
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poker.tel, any value?
 
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S~ said:
JamesDavid said:
*** One thing I do think is funny though.... .tel main site is a .org.... not a .tel..

...well wouldn't this be because you can't develop a website on a .tel name?

:bingo:
How ironic :gl:
 
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JamesDavid said:
poker.tel, any value?

how could you monetize it if you cant put a site on it? a poker directory?
 
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poker.tel, any value?

Cant see it myself JD, from a perspective of how to monetise it other than from the actual much sought after keyword.
However while I can see uses in quite a few different names which could work in the extension ie locksmith,Pizza, hotel. As well as being good chips to have if there is a resellers market.

I guess its all about being innovative. Just cant work out how you could innovate it.

I've a few ideas what could work with .tel whether they do or not will be the decider. Just wish I had been able to have a go at preordering Music.tel
 
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.tel... i dont see it having any value..

it sucks more than .ws/.cc/.name/and .mobi

it will only be good for telephone numbers, maybe?
 
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FWIW, I just set up a beta .tel site (available to anyone for a free trial; it's a free temporary page):

http://msdomainer.vip.tel/index.action

The dashboard is pretty easy and intuitive, although it's a bit slow and doesn't recognize some symbols, like ' which is annoying to a person interested in correct ussage, so "Ms Domainer's Feeds" becomes "Ms Domainers Feeds."

Being that this is only a temporary page, I have added only two website links and two sets of keywords. Theoretically, the keywords will help search engines find the site and add it to the targeted rankings--that's what they say, anyway.

You could actually have a directory of websites that YOU choose. Thus, you could sell directory space on a generic site and charge accordingly. So if you had an expensive keyword, you could charge a hefty monthly fee. ;)

I think that will depend how the major search engines will decide how to rank yet another TLD. Phone apps could be powerful; however, I'm not sure how that works.

This literally took me minutes to set up, but I don't know if there will be glitches once the TLD hits the registrars.

By the way, telnic.org shows a scrolling list of trademarks granted during sunrise, and it seems they are taking a liberal view of what constitutes a trademark. For example, Poker.tel has already been awarded to someone; I would have never thought that "poker" was a trademarked name.

I think that telnic uses .org because their instructions are image and text heavy. It is obvious that .tel will never offer actual web page capability but is an actual directory/electronic business card.

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sportomoney said:
even worse than .mobi

It's hard to get worse than the failed and misguided "dot Mobey", IMHO ... but the equally lengthy and miserable ".NAME" seems to have managed to do so - while the short and very highly brandable .TEL seems to offer quick and vital contact information for use by those that are out and about and "on the go"! :music: :talk: :imho:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff B-)
 
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By the way, telnic.org shows a scrolling list of trademarks granted during sunrise, and it seems they are taking a liberal view of what constitutes a trademark. For example, Poker.tel has already been awarded to someone; I would have never thought that "poker" was a trademarked name.

I think I scrolled through all of them and saw 'joker.tel' and 'partypoker.tel' but didn't see poker.tel.

I thought it was interesting how microsoft regged

microsoft.tel
xbox.tel
xbox360.tel

I also saw

mcdonalds.tel
happymeal.tel

Look like companies are regging multiple trademarks.
 
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Jeff said:
It's hard to get worse than the failed and misguided "dot Mobey", IMHO ... but the equally lengthy and miserable ".NAME" seems to have managed to do so - while the short and very highly brandable .TEL seems to offer quick and vital contact information for use by those that are out and about and "on the go"! :music: :talk: :imho:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff B-)

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Jeff,

I think you have nailed it exactly. I think .tel does what .mobi should have done in the first place: force owners to be mobile compliant. I actually like the .mobi TLD (as a term), but on an operating level, it's a mess (IMO).

The .tel people seem to be approaching this in the right way (though I would question "poker" as a trademark for a poker site).

I suspect that this TLD will discourage cybersquatting to a certain extent because of the incapability to set up traditional parking pages (not totally foolproof, though).

I noticed that Apple and Porsche (sorry, Mr. Kohler) have secured their .tel domain names.

:alien:

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I have one .tel in mind that is available. When would I be able to register it, landrush or now?
 
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spoofies said:
I think I scrolled through all of them and saw 'joker.tel' and 'partypoker.tel' but didn't see poker.tel.

I thought it was interesting how microsoft regged

microsoft.tel
xbox.tel
xbox360.tel

I also saw

mcdonalds.tel
happymeal.tel

Look like companies are regging multiple trademarks.

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Oops--You're right.

It IS joker, not poker.

:red:

A bit of a brain f*rt, I'm afraid.

I could see Joker being TM'd as something else.

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bgmv said:
I have one .tel in mind that is available. When would I be able to register it, landrush or now?

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Some registrars are allowing pre-registrations, probably one pre-registration per name, per registar (I'm guessing here). On the first day of landrush, I suspect each registrar will act as dropcatchers. (First catch, first get?).

I went through Dotster (which serves the US).

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Below is my list of my .tel applications/pre regs:




:gl:
 
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"To find out more about my Internet business you can go to mybiz.tel."

"Can't I just go to your existing website and find that?"

"Well I guess you could but some people conned me into believing duplication is good."

Most useless extension ever.
 
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whitebark said:
Most useless extension ever.

Are you talking about the lowly "dot Mobey" ... or the highly brandable .TEL? :gl:

Ms Domainer said:
I think you have nailed it exactly. I think .tel does what .mobi should have done in the first place: force owners to be mobile compliant. I actually like the .mobi TLD (as a term), but on an operating level, it's a mess (IMO).

^ Hammer. Head. Nail. :yell:
Except, even as a "term" ... it's also a complete MESS! :guilty: :imho:

wot said:
Below is my list of my .tel applications/pre regs:




:gl:

:hehe:

Go get 'em, Mr. Wot! :D

-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
Are you talking about the lowly "dot Mobey" ... or the highly brandable .TEL? :gl:



^ Hammer. Head. Nail. :yell:
Except, even as a "term" ... it's also a complete MESS! :guilty: :imho:



:hehe:

Go get 'em, Mr. Wot! :D

-Jeff B-)

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When I lived in Macedonia, the main cell phone company was MobiMak, which might explain my fondness for "mobi" (as a term).

:D

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question: can you use .tel domains for email, example [email protected]?

this would serve to be interesting...
 
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I still believe it is possible to make a $h!t Load of money by setting up your .tel as a directory for business.

Again, using the "hotel" example... You could act like a "yellow pages" for hotels! Hotels from all over the world could pay to list on YOUR .tel directory.

It would be much more convenient to type hotels.tel into your blackberry/cellphone/iphone or whatever... and instantly hook into a directory with phone numbers, addresses and website links to hotels in the area which you choose! It could be broken down into Countrys/states/provinces/city's/territory's/districts or even price ranges or ratings... ie 1 STAR - 5 STAR.

I think there is a very good chance for people to make BIG BUCKS with the right names! I don't think you will make big money with names like poker.tel or monkey.tel, however I may be wrong! Just my opinion!

Cheers!

Saucey says Ahoy!
 
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JamesDavid said:
question: can you use .tel domains for email, example [email protected]?

this would serve to be interesting...

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It appears not.

See the graphic on this page:

http://www.telnic.org/

I did not see this capability on my dashboard.

But it would be an awesome app, wouldn't it?

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