The .TEL Discussion Thread

[brendan52190]

Hi

For this, let's assume that .tel will not be a total flop.

What type of keywords will be most valuable for this extension? Will it be geographical keywords, like newyork.tel, losangeles.tel, etc, or what else?

 

[plaggypig]

Um, it's still 2009 people.

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Listening to Vancouver's News1130 radio - .tel commercials start running today.

 

[mactel]

As I concluded:
The mainstream won't have .tel domains, but they will try to take advantage of those .tel names, that are listed in directories.

A mainstream user will be able to keep one or two .tel names in his memory.
And the might have five other .tel names saved/stored on his mobile phone.

To find other .tel names, he will either have use a .tel search engine, or a .tel directory.

Telsters, investors in .tel, and .tel owners, etc., where hoping, that .tel would take off, as soon as possible.

Let us make a szenarion, and say: we expect .tel to take off in three months:
I just said, that the mainstream would use .tel, provided, that he can find "any.tel" that is available, within reasonable time.
So: according to the szenarion we would need all the following set up and working in two or theree months:

1.) telpages
2.) a few good .tel directories, that are easy to use, and give a nice experience

- Otherwhise: how should the dot tel domain be able to take off, if potential .tel users don't know where, and how to find .tel names?

It will be not enough, if the meanstream knows about the dot tel domain:
He will have to know, where all those registered .tel names are, and how he can find them, respectively, retrieve them and display them.

And then, after, it is simple: just "click2call".

But from just beeing aware, that .tel exists, till he can "click2call", there are a few steps inbetween... - and that has got be solved, so that .tel is able to "take off".

Telnic and the telstere have to make it happen, ore else, it won't happen.
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Ore else, only a bunch of telsters, and a few small businesses will be using .tel.
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But not the mainstream.
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[mis_chiff]

Here is a thought!

Telnic and the telstere have to make it happen, ore else, it won't happen.

Did you see this mactel?

*PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT*

Ladies and gents, please do *NOT* post questions to the Telnic team on this thread, it's become impossible for us to distinguish them from commentaries, opinions and other types of discussions.

You can use the Telnic forum on telnic.org for this, and if they're developer issues, the Telnic Dev forum on dev.telnic org. Thanks!

Henri
the other Telnic guy.

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I own Cellular.tel
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I was pleasantly surprised to see that the result was that Cellular.tel has made it up to page one, position 6 for this extremely competitive name.

There is nothing competitive about something that nobody is searching for.

cellular tel = "Not enough data"

"cellular" on the other hand gets searches, but you do not rank in the top 1,000 positions.

 

[semohi]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

 

[Steven]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

Nice video

 

[plaggypig]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

Nice work man

 

[brendan52190]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

LOL that's awesome. :kickass:

 

[Jawed]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

Excellent work!

 

[plaggypig]

Check out Webnames' "We're not the New Yorker" caption competition for their beautiful cartoon style .tel advert


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[DubDubDubDot]

Check out Webnames' "We're not the New Yorker" caption competition for their beautiful cartoon style .tel advert

No caption could save that ad.

The woman's sign in the ad is one that a realtor wouldn't use. If they are going to pitch something that claims to make signs better, then provide a better example of it's use.

What realtors are going to see in this ad is a woman who has stripped the sign down to just a web address. This is like having a sign that says "Remax.com" and no other contact method. Nobody does that, so I fail to see what the selling point is.

Seriously, the longer this .tel stuff goes on, the dumber people are getting.

 

[firefly]

I haven't read this thread since about page twenty when I realized that it was pointless. dot tel supporters will tel you it's the best thing since sliced bread, detractors (the ones I call sensible) simply putting forward glaring weaknesses of the extension which quite frankly, will probably never gain true mainstream acceptance, like most of the recently released extensions.

This particular thread his tripped into the outer limits of common sense and sanity in regards to presenting a logical argument from some members and it takes any value away from it.

At least I remember why I stopped reading it.

 

[steveteva]

Check out Webnames' "We're not the New Yorker" caption competition for their beautiful cartoon style .tel advert


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Nice tried but honestly .tel is not to advertise on a home for sale board, it's great for realtors but not as demonstrated in video, also I rarely sees in canada these signs with a personal web adress but more with phone and description.

 

[steveteva]

Great news I found: Domain thief arrested after pushing .tel domains : DomainGang

Is he a NP member? what domain .tel did he steal? and to whom?

 

[FrenchTel]

Hoax ...

Great news I found: Domain thief arrested after pushing .tel domains : DomainGang

Is he a NP member? what domain .tel did he steal? and to whom?

It's a hoax of course! I already twitted about it on Sept, 27th here ...
You should follow me on Twitter ...:D

 

[mactel]

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The dot tel domain will never gain true mainstream acceptance, if:

1.) There are only good .tel search engines, but no very good directories.

2.) You don't get a .tel search engine on every TelProxy, just like you get Google in your task bar using your PC or Laptop.

Because mainstrem users won't have dot tel domains, and won't be familiar with dot tel domains. Only telsters and businesses, etc.

They will only want to use .tel as a replacement for "dialing numbers", etc., not want to own them. (Mostly, not. There are always exceptions.)

So, those .tel's got to be found, by any "dummy", but: "go to" jeppa, and telpages, or gotel.me, won't be enough.
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The .tel search engines, have got to be right under the users nose, always, just like Google.
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[mactel]

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FrenchTel, I like you, and you are right.

Another thing: the success of the dot tel domain, is based on good common sense.

And a lot of people are lacking common sense. It is not wrong, not have much common sense. And those people can't help it, not having, or not using common sense.

Again:

1.)
1 Anyuser wants to use Anytel at Anytime, from any laptop, pc, or handheld device.

2.) Anyuser has to know, where to go, to find .tel names (company.tel. doctor.tel, taxi.tel, escortgirl.tel, pizzabrighton.tel, etc).

3.) Anyuser does not know, what "jepaa", "telpages", "dottellfinder", "gotel.me" is, and how, and where to get access to them. Because Anyuser, is a "dummy, at first".

4.) Anyusers, have got the money, and all the money to keep tel going, will only come from Anyuser, if he uses the dot tel domain, respectively, from the businesses, that have adverts on the TelProxies, and from sponsors, who see, that it makes sense, to support .tel, because it gets widly accepted and used. Other money, from other parties, etc.
But if mainstream Anyuser, won't be using .tel, no money can flow.

5.) If Anyusers gets "put off" by the dot tel domain: No Go.
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6.) If the dot tel domain becomes a no-brainer, and very cheap, for Anyusers, then: Big Biz, and (All Telsters, Providers and Users) = Happy.
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Here another szenaio:
(Yes, people do make tipos, and that is why domainers buy domains with tipos...
Anyway, back to the subject

1.) Good .tel videos make people want to get a .tel domain.

2.) Good .tel videos make people to investigate in .tel, to learn more about .tel.

3.) And what comes next?: People see, that it will be difficult for others, to see and find their .tel domain. Nevertheless, that there are a few existing .tel search engines out there.

4.) If the video watchers are no-techies, they won't get a .tel domain. Or a few, of the non-techie watchers, will only buy one, instead of ten domains, intended.

So, the videos, are great, but there ars some other links missing, such as:
"search machines on TelProxies" and "professional looking and working .tel directories",

If you are a small business, or a socializer, you wan't your .tel domain name to get found.
If you realize, that finding your .tel domain name, will be troublesome, than that fact might prevent you, from buying .tel domain names.

You got make .tel a "Sell", and a "Buy", and not a "Putt Off, Dead End Street".

You see this gorgeous .tel video, but it stands at the end of the dead end street, with no further good options, or reasons to get that .tel, that won't get found.
Respectively, that will ony get found, if you use a Google search engine, with a related keyword, and a lot of luck, as well.
Where as, the .tel search engine, would only show you, what you want, and that is ".tel domain names, only".
That is why, the users should be directed to a .tel search engine, and not to a global Google search engine.

Any potential .tel buyer, who can conclude, that his intended purchase of a .tel name, makes sense, because his .tel name will be quick and easily found by others, will buy that .tel domain name, after weighing off the cons and the pros.

The techie and developer and the domainer buy .tel domain names, because they can do a lot of things with it, and know, that .tel is getting continously developt and improoved. So they take a certain risk, when buying .tel.

But other buyers just would buy a .tel domain name, so that they just get found more easily, and contacted more often.
The mainstream .tel users wan't no risk: Only instant value for money.
And if he buys a .tel domain, he wants, to see, that he is buying "value for money", NOW.
Not in a year, or two.

Put "whatever" .tel search engine on a TelProxy, for all TelProxies, and the biggest problem will be solved, and you can watch .tel take off, steeply.
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The "Love Train" video is a fantastic video. And normally such good videos help sales.
But I do guess, it did not. Or not as well as it could of done under other circumstances.

It is quasi:
1.) Good video: not more sales / no additional sales / no effect on sales.

2.) (Good video) + (.tel search engine on telproxy) = Big success. Everybody want's a .tel.
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People might be "tech-dummies", but not stupid.
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We have got so far, with all the great .tel tools, directories, .tel search engines, educated people, that are capable to offer all sorts of troubleshooting, but have overseen to put a .tel search engine direct on the telproxy.

It is only a defective apperiance, we made, but can be corrected, respectively, added.

And it is not too late, but only high time to do it.
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I just picked up this news:
And the dot tel domaine is now done and saved! Hurray!:
Adding a .tel search to a .tel page - .tel Community Forum

::tu::bingo::tu::tu::talk::tu::tu::bingo:
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Bring out the champagne...!
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[Ader]

Here's my latest video for the myspace type crowd. Check it out.

How to be a player
YouTube - How to Be a Player - True Playa - with .Tel

I love your work.

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No caption could save that ad.

The woman's sign in the ad is one that a realtor wouldn't use. If they are going to pitch something that claims to make signs better, then provide a better example of it's use.

What realtors are going to see in this ad is a woman who has stripped the sign down to just a web address. This is like having a sign that says "Remax.com" and no other contact method. Nobody does that, so I fail to see what the selling point is.

Seriously, the longer this .tel stuff goes on, the dumber people are getting.

Seriously, who still types in "www" before a web address?
Nobody does that, or they certainly don't need to.
And I fail to see the point of old fashioned prefixes (www. for example)
Completely unnecessary. Things move forward.

 

[Kate]

Seriously, who still types in "www" before a web address?
Nobody does that, or they certainly don't need to.
And I fail to see the point of old fashioned prefixes (www. for example)
Completely unnecessary. Things move forward.

Well, I still do often. Many sites don't resolve without the leading www. or worse they display a totally different page

 

[Ader]

Well, I still do often. Many sites don't resolve without the leading www. or worse they display a totally different page

I can't say I've had that problem recently, at least not with a .com or a.tel.

 

[mactel]

Telnic's Roadmap Quasi Announces A .Tel Search Engine for TelProxy

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Telnic's roadmap quasi announces a .tel search engine for telproxy.

And has been confirmed by Nadya Morozova.

Quote;
"Thank you for your suggestion, spline. Yes, definitely a search inside a .tel is on our roadmap, .tel Community | Roadmap

The first stage would be to release TelPages, the .tel directory search engine. Once we've done that, we can implement a search box inside a .tel domain to use TelPages but look inside this domain only.

I can't see why you'd enable somebody to hide the search box on their .tel, so I expect it'd be shown on all domains.

You also got me thinking: what if I search in your domain, and can't find anything. The search results page should probably also offer a link to telpages.com (opens in a new window) to search all .tel domains for my query. Do you think it's a good idea?"

Learn more, at the Telnic forum, at:
tel Community Forum > Community > .tel Dreams > Adding a .tel search to a .tel page
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[MicroGuy]

I can't say I've had that problem recently, at least not with a .com or a.tel.

I see this a lot.

The DNS was designed to work in a fashion where the host names route traffic to the appropriate hosts. For example, mail.domain.com, ftp.domain.com, www.domain.com, etc., etc.

The webmaster of a site sometimes elects not to route traffic without the appropriate host name, or sometimes the error is due to an oversight by the webmaster, or for some other reason. If you are visiting a WWW (World Wide Web) host, it's not unreasonable to think that a WWW host name may be required. Many sites simply forward domain.com to www.domain.com or vise versa.

Of course, .TEL owners are unable to make changes to the DNS as this important functionality has been disabled by Telnic. :talk:

 

[FrenchTel]

Poll

Please take that online poll :
What feature(s) would you want in a .tel domains administration software solution?

Thanks!

 

[Shahid7]

nice one french tel looks like fun i just posted my vote there too no3

Shahid

 

[liming]

compare: (Who can explain?)

Results 1 - 10 of about 129,000 from *.tel. (0.77 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 180,000 from *.mobi. (0.33 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 182,000 for site:*.me. (1.05 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 90,600 from *.pro. (0.69 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 168,000 from *.name. (0.63 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 156,000 from *.asia. (0.34 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 158,000 from *.travel. (0.54 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 8,470,000 for site:*.tv. (0.50 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 6,920,000 for site:*.cc. (0.35 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,570,000,000 from *.com. (0.30 seconds)
Results 1 - 10 of about 121,000,000 from *.net. (0.45 seconds)