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I've read alot of comments of domainers putting forth their ideas of why or why not dot com is King and which are the other possible extensions having potential to follow the rise of the .com.

Perhaps we could all appreciate these ideas better if we could bring (or dig) out facts and figures for analysis.

Below is a list of top 100 sites from Alexa ranking as at today. If anyone has a top 100 list from last year, then we could compare and see if there are any extensions gaining publicity faster than the others.

I encourage everybody to share more figures with us.

Alexa Top 100 (50 out of top 100 domains isn't a .com.)

1. yahoo.com
2. youtube.com
3. live.com
4. google.com
5. myspace.com
6. facebook.com
7. msn.com
8. hi5.com
9. wikipedia.org
10. orkut.com
11. blogger.com
12. rapidshare.com
13. fotolog.net
14. megaupload.com
15. google.fr
16. skyrock.com
17. friendster.com
18. microsoft.com
19. baidu.com
20. megarotic.com
21. google.cl
22. yahoo.co.jp
23. ebay.com
24. google.com.br
25. google.es
26. mail.ru
27. google.com.mx
28. seznam.cz
29. dailymotion.com
30. photobucket.com
31. youporn.com
32. google.pl
33. imdb.com
34. imageshack.us
35. vkontakte.ru
36. nasza-klasa.pl
37. qq.com
38. google.co.uk
39. flickr.com
40. megavideo.com
41. odnoklassniki.ru
42. google.de
43. metroflog.com
44. amazon.com
45. google.co.ve
46. redtube.com
47. google.com.ar
48. free.fr
49. wordpress.com
50. uol.com.br
51. google.com.co
52. imagevenue.com
53. mininova.org
54. wretch.cc
55. google.com.pe
56. onet.pl
57. aol.com
58. allegro.pl
59. yandex.ru
60. go.com
61. sina.com.cn
62. deviantart.com
63. google.co.in
64. bbc.co.uk
65. google.ca
66. craigslist.org
67. google.sk
68. adultfriendfinder.com
69. livejournal.com
70. globo.com
71. iwiw.hu
72. google.com.vn
73. wp.pl
74. netlog.com
75. perfspot.com
76. google.co.hu
77. googlesyndication.com <--- Adsense bot traffic?
78. google.it
79. terra.com.br
80. ebay.fr
81. google.cn
82. veoh.com
83. fc2.com
84. google.co.th
85. fotka.pl
86. orange.fr
87. rambler.ru
88. onemanga.com
89. badongo.com
90. google.com.tr
91. 51.com
92. geocities.com
93. taobao.com
94. mediafire.com
95. ebay.de
96. megaflirt.com
97. ebay.co.uk
98. sexyono.com
99. apple.com
100. google.co.jp

# .org = 3
# .net = 1
# .fr = 4
# .cl = 1
# .co.jp = 2
# .com.br = 3
# .es = 1
# .ru = 5
# .com.mx = 1
# .cz = 1
# .pl = 6
# .us = 1
# .co.uk = 3
# .de = 2
# .co.ve = 1
# .com.ar = 1
# .com.co = 1
# .cc = 1
# .com.pe = 1
# .com.cn = 1
# .co.in = 1
# .ca = 1
# .sk = 1
# .hu = 2
# .com.vn = 1
# .co.hu = 1
# .it = 1
# .cn = 1
# .co.th = 1
# .com.tr = 1
 
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The views expressed on this page by users and staff are their own, not those of NamePros.
At the end of the day all of these extension threads are really just about promoting an agenda to raise the value of ones own domain portfolio whether pro.com or anti .com IMO.

.com is the dominant extension worldwide, with international appeal both from the business community and the domainer community.

Of course CCtld's are important especially to their native population. Small companies within a country will have their CCTLD while larger multinational companies will probably have the .com and their native cctld.

Too many things get blurred, if you are developing a website then you are not a domainer in the pure sense of the word, how people think of the domaining business, which is to earn income from ppc and domain sales. That may change with the likes of the Snowe bill and other initiatives, but the pure domaining business is not about developing one site. So yes you can take a .vc and develop a great site and be successful. IMO that is all you should be concerned with, not look I am making $ with .vc so .com is losing its luster. It is not losing its luster, on the flip side its a big world so there is certainly opportunity in other extensions. Maybe you do not get .com money but regging net/org/mobi whatever ext you like, and selling for 30 to 500 times your investment is a great return.

Stick to what you know, Know what you do not know, and stay focused. Do not let forum discussions take you off track. There is not just one way to do things and debating the strength of .com is just taking focus off becoming successful. Balance is key. Again IMO
 
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No. Just look at the stats TODAY.

.com is overwhelmingly dominant, and has solidified that trend despite the constant release & promotion of ngtlds.
 
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Interesting to read this thread over a decade later :xf.smile:
 
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there is more to .com being king than an alexa list :) there are many factors in which .com dominates.
are other tld's and cctld's making some sort of mark? well sure, the internet is a BIG place- lots of room for everyone :) but- water will always be wet, britney will never wear underwear, and com will always be king.
 
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I feel .org is growing, .net is sinking, and .com will always be around.
 
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DenRon, you said it perfectly. I check in once in awhile and it amazes me how this topic keeps coming up since the years I have been lurking on this board. I was always amazed how many people are going to lose their shirts from .mobi. I can right now make my .com sites check to see if you are on a mobile phone and completly change the content to suit your browser. Makes no sense.

.org will always be great for non-profits and organizations. Always liked that extension. But yes, for the one million time, .com is king.
 
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Okay. This is just my opinion and my way of trying to rationalize this whole debate.

I think of McDonalds as the dot com of the world wide web. Huge branding. Known absolutely everywhere, and completely dominant in it's field. Omnipresent would almost come close to micky dees presence.

Next is your nets,orgs, and infos. The burger kings ( and alike) of the internet world. Still lots of value to be had. Highly recognizable and brandable. But given a choice between the golden arches and a burger king, the majority would end up at Mcdonalds. Sad but true.

Then there is the local burger joint that all in the local neighborhood know of and recommend to their friends. These are the country specific tld's. The .co.uk,...com.au, dot in, and other country specific extensions. There is big potential for these extension as countries come to embrace there own dot anything. These extensions I believe, will grow the most, with the obvious exception of dot us because America has embraced dot com as it's own.

The newer extensions such as dot eu, dot asia, and dot mobi which are basically just area code extensions, will have little longevity. Once again, this is only my opinion.

Sooooo. If you think McDonalds is going to fall over soon, let me know. I'll race out and buy a heap of .asia names.

:tri:

Sorry for my simplistic rationalization as to why dot com is king and will remain so....lol
 
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lol....my wife thinks I'm a bit abstract at times too!

Thanks
 
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Interesting to read this thread over a decade later :xf.smile:

What's really interesting is most of those posters from 2008 are not here and haven't been for years.
 
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What's really interesting is most of those posters from 2008 are not here and haven't been for years.

Everything is a learning curve. I think those people graduated from NP school. Nothing left for them to learn here. When did you last visit your schools located in different cities or how many times you visited there after the graduation?

This is not interesting for me, is rather sad. Time is passing so fast. Important things of today for us will change in the future. Those people may not be doing domaining at the moment. We will likely follow the same path they walked and passed, just like the young students walking today in our old schools as we walked there years ago.
 
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Not really sure what you are talking about? Where did I say I don't care. I said these kids and models don't care and don't care about my opinion on domain names. When I get outside the people I know from domaining, everyone else family, friends, etc... They think domaining is either the dumbest or most boring thing they have ever heard, I have gone to parties where someone asked me to please not talk about domain names.
That was little harsh and incorrect, I apologize. I guess I'm just used to the people I call friends and family, colleagues and business associates having an open mind to what I have to say, out of respect at the very least, even if the DN passion isn't shared. This is where the fight for awareness/acceptance begins. And over time, I've found, people will go out of their way to ask me, rather than me have to probe: what's up with the domain name game, where is it headed, is this a good name, etc..

Not to say, too often am I asked, "so do I have to put .com after that?" on a gTLD name discussion. But a gentle correction is all it takes. Though, I have had people laugh in my face. Examples of real world usage helps too. I've been using a gTLD email address for almost 4 years now, with business contacts and family, they all understand now .com is not the be all and end all.

But you're right, DN's in general aren't an important issue to most unless its ones craft, or a business needing a presence.

I think to get people to talk about DN, is all about presentation. Com has been around for so long, it's tough to generate excitement on it. Whereas new tld entrants pose all sorts of angles that get me excited, and am able to reflect that in conversations.
 
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also there are like 10 google.(local tld) on that list, I doubt that shows any cctld strength, simply a lot of people live in Poland, Mexico, Brasil etc.

Actually, I beg to differ...

google.ca is 65th on the list and the country only has 37 million people.
The .ca TLD is widely used in Canadian Business and is almost at par with .com

A lot of that is because for commerce Canadians trust .ca and the fact that they are reasonably priced against their .com counterparts.

ccTLD's are indeed very strong and on their own would be considered a great success. It is only once you measure them against a global powerhouse like .com that they show weakness.

.com is and always will remain king but that does not mean there is any weakness in ccTLD's. It is simply a numbers game of regional vs global. We know that a country code can never compete against the dominant global extension but nonetheless the ccTLD's have some respectable numbers in a lot of countries.
 
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49 out of 100 are .COM. 17 of the top 20 are .COM. There are 31 extensions on the list. Sounds dominant to me. :imho:

The only thing that comes close is .PL with 6.

I'm interested in seeing last year's list, though. :)
 
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smashfactory said:
there is more to .com being king than an alexa list :) there are many factors in which .com dominates.
are other tld's and cctld's making some sort of mark? well sure, the internet is a BIG place- lots of room for everyone :) but- water will always be wet, britney will never wear underwear, and com will always be king.

Yes, there are many factors. but i believe you agree too when i say the success of an extension depends very much on how many sites (or popular sites) are developed using that extension.

Everybody is familiar with dot com because so many websites we visit and services we use are from dot com sites.

So how do we see whether a particular extension is being developed more than the other extensions? One way is to look at traffic ranking. No development = no traffic = no ranking.

If we have last year's top 100 list, we could also see which extensions gained momentum, or see how fast .com is losing ground.
 
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well, just looking at a different set of numbers- if you run a trend on com, net, org and pl- you can also see that .com is still on an upward trend of what people search out most on the web:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=.com,.org,.net,.pl

look at how com and net were so close at one point, and how they have went their seperate ways.
 
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also there are like 10 google.(local tld) on that list, I doubt that shows any cctld strength, simply a lot of people live in Poland, Mexico, Brasil etc.
 
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nice points broght by Etab and smashfactory

what i noticed, and i think it is important, is the fact some ccTLDs are ranked here are derivated from their dot com's, such as google.xx, yahoo.xx, ebay.xx and mail.ru (total of 26 ccTLDs), so i have a question

if they werent here and if you only had google dot com redirecting to their local pages in their local languages what would it be the other 26 sites?
and if until #126 there are other sites derivated from their original dot com bypass them

what i am trying to say is dot com is very strong and it is so important it determines ccTLDs development

BTW, orkut is #10 in alexa's rank due to brazilian traffic but we are not the only country there of course; brazil is #1 county at orkut

first .com.br is google; if we didnt have google it would be uol (#50)
 
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smashfactory said:
well, just looking at a different set of numbers- if you run a trend on com, net, org and pl- you can also see that .com is still on an upward trend of what people search out most on the web:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=.com,.org,.net,.pl

look at how com and net were so close at one point, and how they have went their seperate ways.

If we look at the top 20 domains, .com occupy 17 of them. And I suppose no other extensions are capable of breaking into the top 5 (and stay in the top 5 for some time). This could be seen as an argument for why .com is king, because it is top of the traffic chain.
 
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ssamriga said:
also there are like 10 google.(local tld) on that list, I doubt that shows any cctld strength, simply a lot of people live in Poland, Mexico, Brasil etc.

Agreed, Basically 18 kids of google.com from that top 100 list :yell:

google.fr
google.com.br
google.pl
google.co.uk
google.de
google.co.ve
google.com.ar
google.com.co
google.com.pe
google.co.in
google.ca
google.sk
google.com.vn
google.cn
google.co.hu
google.co.th
google.com.tr
google.co.jp
 
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also mix in there how many names are regged for each tld:

74,723,784 Com
11,187,777 Net
6,658,007 Org
etc...


how many google.com pages there are:
13,160,000,000 for site:.com
1,760,000,000 for site:.net
1,410,000,000 for site:.org
etc...


and domain sales- it paints a pretty clear picture concerning com :)
 
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Excellent thread ... I'll look for some older stats, etc. but two other quick points are that .COM is an established brand - and for any of these newer extensions to even make a dent in this .COM empire will require unique and compelling developments (specifically, corporate), major league budgets on advertising and marketing / promtions of those newly developed sites, effective branding (of, for the most part, unnatural new extensions), as well as corporate and mass adoption and usage, IMHO. The end result of this is that both time and mathematics are deeply against the new extensions ... they simply cannot catch up or even marginally compete with .COM's dominance in any of our lifetimes, in my judgement! :tri:
The downside to all of this - and I don't want to belabor the point using the example of the struggling "dot Mobey" (although it's the prime illustration of these downfalls) - is that many good folks / domainers will lose a LOT of hard-earned money in initial registrations and then renewals after renewals after years of renewals :$: in the false hope that these new extensions could ever achieve anything more than vanity or teeny niche plays (versus the mighty goliath, the .COM)! :music: :imho:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff B-)
 
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Jeff said:
Excellent thread ... I'll look for some older stats, etc. but two other quick points are that .COM is an established brand - and for any of these newer extensions to even make a dent in this .COM empire will require unique and compelling developments (specifically, corporate), major league budgets on advertising and marketing / promtions of those newly developed sites, effective branding (of, for the most part, unnatural new extensions), as well as corporate and mass adoption and usage, IMHO. The end result of this is that both time and mathematics are deeply against the new extensions ... they simply cannot catch up or even marginally compete with .COM's dominance in any of our lifetimes, in my judgement! :tri:
The downside to all of this - and I don't want to belabor the point using the example of the struggling "dot Mobey" (although it's the prime illustration of these downfalls) - is that many good folks / domainers will lose a LOT of hard-earned money in initial registrations and then renewals after renewals after years of renewals :$: in the false hope that these new extensions could ever achieve anything more than vanity or teeny niche plays (versus the mighty goliath, the .COM)! :music: :imho:

Just my two sense.
-Jeff B-)

Gotta agree with the first paragraph on this Jeff. If anyone thinks any other extension has a shot of overcoming .com in the next 20 years, PM me....I've got some prime swampland here in FL I'd like to talk to you about... ;)

As for the second paragraph, I can't understand why you insist to bring up and belittle "dot mobey" in just about every post I see of yours. We all know how you feel by now... :zzz: To call .mobi struggling is simply a statement based on obvious lack of knowledge of the tdl, IMHO. How is it struggling any more than any other tld (including .com)? Every one of my mobi sites continue to bring in more unique visitors daily than the previous month. I had multiple "struggling dot mobey" sites with over 1000 unique visitors last month. One site alone had over 12,000 page views and nearly 3000 uniques. Not stratospheric numbers, but also not to shabby for a brand new site in a new extension that has not had a single penny spent on marketing. Even my parked mobi's are increasing in visits.

I would also like to note that, simply because of it's truly unique nature, Alexa will not provide proper .mobi stats. If I'm not mistaken, Alexa gets their figures from visitors who have an Alexa toolbar on their site. They don't have this available for mobile browsers (to my knowledge)...and when / if they do, how many of us will have it installed?

Yes, Dot Com is the King. Can money be made with the princes / queens / and even jesters? Sure. But, try as the might, they'll never have the Kings wealth...
 
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Jeff said:
.......... .COM is an established brand - and for any of these newer extensions to even make a dent in this .COM empire will require unique and compelling developments (specifically, corporate), major league budgets on advertising and marketing / promtions of those newly developed sites, effective branding (of, for the most part, unnatural new extensions), as well as corporate and mass adoption and usage, IMHO. The end result of this is that both time and mathematics are deeply against the new extensions ... they simply cannot catch up or even marginally compete with .COM's dominance in any of our lifetimes, in my judgement! :tri: ................
-Jeff B-)

Your comment of "time and mathematics are deeply against the new extensions" and "they simply cannot catch up" sparked 2 thoughts in me.
1. If you can't beat them, then join them.
2. Has .com reached the critical mass and monopolized the *whatever* just like how ebay monopolized the auction industry?
 
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just remember- a n y t h i n g can be over thrown. to echo ray:

Stick to what you know, Know what you do not know, and stay focused. Do not let forum discussions take you off track. There is not just one way to do things and debating the strength of .com is just taking focus off becoming successful. Balance is key.
 
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