ccTLD The Official .COM.AU Sales, Showcase and Discussion

[End User King]

Any whois for .com.au

I cant seem to find any.
It would be nice if someone could help me.

Thanks in advance!!! :loveyou:

 

[backpackets]

Yeah I'm sure Netfleet would have a great potential market for these names but for the short term we're really trying to focus just on .au.

It's not the first time I've been asked this question so I know there's demand out there so it's something we may look to put together in the New Year.

We'll just have to be careful judging what domains will be considered 'Australian oriented'. Your two examples would fit the bill no probs but there's definitely a grey area to consider.

Thanks for the feedback!

i want to sell this domain itseosupport.com.au

I ll use your website to sell it.

cheers mate,

 

[zero_haze_au]

Another .au Sold today for low $1,XXX.

Unfortunaly though i have sneaky suspicion that i under valued this one big time.

Anyway, confirmed the sale today with the clients law firm.

The client was massive - though i found this out only after the sale!

The domain is hospitality/food related.

 

[netfleet]

Another .au Sold today for low $1,XXX.

Unfortunaly though i have sneaky suspicion that i under valued this one big time.

Anyway, confirmed the sale today with the clients law firm.

Well done - that's great news! Can you disclose what it was either now or later? Even though I don't know what it was, don't beat yourself up about what you could have got. If you hand rego'd it you've got a return of at least 4,000% (is my maths right?!) which is fantastic!

The client was massive - though i found this out only after the sale!

Don't you hate that!

 

[DotnetKris]

Theres no point wondering about what could have been, only what could be.

 

[maxeaus]

G'day guys, ive been around Name Pros a while now, but have not realy bought outside .com. Being Australian i notice .com.au is very big here now, if i was going to invest how should i start?

Hand regging or aftermarket, or both? Also has anyone got a list of where .com.au is up to ATM, ie has all dictionary generics been regged?, what about LLL.com.au and NNN.com.au etc. What differenciates .com.au domains from .com, and end user needs?

Any other subtle differences to the Aussie market? and where is cheapest and or best place to reg .com.au

I have been following netfleets site and sales lately and things look promising, good work netfleet.

Thanks for any help or tips offered.

 

[netfleet]

Welcome to the .au namespace, maxeaus!

First up, there's heaps more potential around here than .com. Registrations are increasing at a much greater rate and as the prohibition of sales was only lifted a few months ago, we're still just starting out. Investments today should pay off very well in the next few years.

Aftermarket is very much in it's infancy so, from an investment point of view it's a case of using your gut as much as anything. Lack of sales data makes it hard to truly judge market value so my advice would be to just trust your instincts & choose domains with a view to development or med-long term hold rather than a quick flip.

Lots of value in hand regging. There are plenty of generic terms still out there for regging. I got depraved.com.au yesterday for example (although that was dropped)

There are still a few LLL's about. Few hundred I would say & none would have more than 1 premium letter I don't think (NOTE: I count 'Q' as premium for .au thanks to Queensland ). Lots of NNN's left too - hard to know where these will go but def some potential there. I'll see if I can dig up a list of available LLL's and NNN's next week when I'm back at work.

In terms of value, some people reckon .au's are worth 1/20th to 1/50th of .coms. It's very hard to say though. Some domains fit better with cc-TLDs than others. Jobs and real estate are a better 'local' fit than sex and downloads for eg.

Some .au's are worth more - certain Geo's for example. (eg Perth.com sold for US$200K, I'd wager perth.com.au is worth more (although for perhaps a more global city like Sydney, the com would prob be worth a little more (sorry WA - just IMO and probably inaccurate!))

You can reg .au's for as little as $25 for two years. I pay slightly more through Intaserve as they give great personal service.

One not so subtle difference is auDA (www.auda.org.au) Read up carefully on the rules & regs and be aware that whatever you do, they have absolute right to delete your domains, no questions asked. Whilst their intent is in the right direction (maintaining integrity of the .au namespace), many of their rules are so subjective that it's easy to fall into disputes. Conservative interpretation is the key at the moment....

Best of luck - make use of your local knowledge & let us know how you get on!!

 

[DnEbook]

hey netfleet i would love to see what nnn's are still out there ??????

...... when your ready

 

[maxeaus]

Thanks netfleet, great answers to my questions, this gives me confidence to dip my toe in and see what i can hand reg. Ive given up on .com completely, there just isn't any low hanging fruit left.

I realy like the way .com.au is becoming the norm here in Aus. Ill let you guys know when i have a few, just to see if im heading in the right direction, or need some further advice.

Would also love the list of LLL.com.au and NNN.com.au, cheers.

 

[netfleet]

OK here are all the available LLL's with either 2 premium or 3 semi-premium letters (about 400 of them)

They are rated in order (best in 1st col) based on some other confidential criteria

OOL NxE SzO TzD
NzO SqD RqS TzP
OxI TxL LqG OkG
PxE OuN LjN OzN
OOR TjI PqD RzE
PuM TxD PwH MzC
NuP OxF LyH RyG
OzT LxT MxE SqG
NuR OjP SxL NxO
RuP LwN DyT PxN
NzP TzR LkN MqD
LuM OjA OuH LqN
MuI OzF PxR RxB
PuF RuO MvN PxO
SjG MuB RyI NxI
TzM LxP SzA LzA
LyR TjO PxH IuB
MyH RqD NjO PqB
SuC LLN LzS LxN
OOM RyB MxA MzF
NzA LuF MzH PyH
BvR PuE SjN SyH
MwO OjE TxB LjI
SuT TuD TxI PxF
NyL OjB PzT LqC
MxG TxC RqG MqI
OvB OjN NxB CqF
SyL SzM PyF NqP
PkO RyT RkI SqO
LkO OzH RzS MxH
TqD LqH LzE BqA
LyS RqO RxL LxB
NqC NyO OkP NxA
MkE RxE OuC RxH
RqH LuR OzC LzM
NzE NqL PxB LqE
LuD LuH LvG PzG
OuL PyO OyT LqT
RyM PzS NyH PqN
MuH NqB NxM OqN
LuP RyH SjI RqL
NNI TyL OvT RxI
NqD PzM LqD OqL
PzC OuF NjI SzP
RwO OxA SxB LzN
SxT NjF RqA TzF
NvH OvF NjG LqI
TyO SzD MzD PzO
TzN RxD TyB LzB
RvF MzR LjG NxF
TyD TzA LjO OxS
NyR MwL RxM LzI
SkL TqN PvO PzE
MzN LyM MzO RzG
RzB OuE PyI OqC
TyI MzA PxG PqH
SvD PxD SzH RxG
NkE PyL OxE RzO
NzG TxH RqI OqR
MxO NzT OqP RzP
SxN NxH RzC RqC
PuO LzH LkH OxD
PkN LzO LjE MqR
PqC LLT NNH OqS
NzF OjF MvG TzB
NqA OzA MqP SzN
LvF NxC RqP MzG
MkF OkN TxO OzL
SzB NyI OxP RqB
TuO OxL RqM NqI
SqN TzI MzS OxH
MxN LxD LxA OzR
TuL LqR OvD LqF
MqB SvF LjT NqG
NuL RqT OvN OqE
LxI SzR OxC OyG
PxA OkR TzC OxB
LyF OvH LqM LxO
OkT NuO NqE LzP
RuH PyN RxO RqN
TzS OxT PzD OqD
RuL RRN OjL OyI
PuH RxS RzD PqG
SxI MzL RzH OqB
SzL TzO PzN TqB
PzL NkB LxC OyF
MkI TyN OwF OqM
NyM PwO RyF RzL
PyG RxN MqT MqE
RkN LLF SzI LyI
RzN PzR PqO MqO
OzS OyL PkH LzC
PqE PjE OqF RzF
NvR LxS LqP LqO
BvS MkN LwI LxF
MxD LyT PzH LzD
PjO NyG NxL OyP
NNO LxH MzI LzG
TzE LvB RzT TzH
OyD OxN OqT


In total I think there are around 1,800 left or 10% of the total possibilities (17,576)

 

[DnEbook]

very good work netfleet !!!!!! now how many nnn/s i wonder ??? (thanks)

 

[netfleet]

OK you asked

All avail NNN's

124.com.au 336.com.au 527.com.au 667.com.au 798.com.au
134.com.au 326.com.au 529.com.au 670.com.au 814.com.au
129.com.au 334.com.au 509.com.au 675.com.au 830.com.au
143.com.au 330.com.au 530.com.au 665.com.au 839.com.au
142.com.au 335.com.au 533.com.au 676.com.au 843.com.au
144.com.au 341.com.au 528.com.au 681.com.au 811.com.au
167.com.au 342.com.au 531.com.au 685.com.au 845.com.au
155.com.au 344.com.au 534.com.au 679.com.au 836.com.au
153.com.au 343.com.au 540.com.au 680.com.au 840.com.au
164.com.au 329.com.au 541.com.au 683.com.au 847.com.au
157.com.au 349.com.au 536.com.au 671.com.au 831.com.au
159.com.au 339.com.au 544.com.au 682.com.au 851.com.au
137.com.au 348.com.au 546.com.au 673.com.au 854.com.au
162.com.au 354.com.au 537.com.au 687.com.au 853.com.au
165.com.au 346.com.au 539.com.au 689.com.au 859.com.au
166.com.au 358.com.au 553.com.au 690.com.au 864.com.au
145.com.au 367.com.au 559.com.au 692.com.au 863.com.au
146.com.au 352.com.au 562.com.au 694.com.au 861.com.au
158.com.au 366.com.au 564.com.au 704.com.au 856.com.au
173.com.au 355.com.au 563.com.au 697.com.au 869.com.au
169.com.au 347.com.au 568.com.au 705.com.au 852.com.au
176.com.au 359.com.au 569.com.au 713.com.au 871.com.au
172.com.au 376.com.au 571.com.au 701.com.au 872.com.au
177.com.au 368.com.au 532.com.au 709.com.au 867.com.au
174.com.au 362.com.au 573.com.au 706.com.au 870.com.au
182.com.au 364.com.au 576.com.au 716.com.au 877.com.au
175.com.au 374.com.au 577.com.au 695.com.au 865.com.au
179.com.au 373.com.au 579.com.au 718.com.au 874.com.au
197.com.au 381.com.au 575.com.au 714.com.au 880.com.au
185.com.au 378.com.au 581.com.au 715.com.au 883.com.au
189.com.au 338.com.au 578.com.au 712.com.au 884.com.au
194.com.au 382.com.au 574.com.au 726.com.au 889.com.au
195.com.au 377.com.au 602.com.au 719.com.au 886.com.au
198.com.au 384.com.au 584.com.au 729.com.au 896.com.au
204.com.au 386.com.au 585.com.au 725.com.au 895.com.au
208.com.au 385.com.au 582.com.au 723.com.au 890.com.au
210.com.au 379.com.au 586.com.au 728.com.au 879.com.au
217.com.au 371.com.au 549.com.au 731.com.au 904.com.au
216.com.au 391.com.au 588.com.au 721.com.au 894.com.au
223.com.au 392.com.au 591.com.au 733.com.au 902.com.au
214.com.au 393.com.au 593.com.au 736.com.au 908.com.au
226.com.au 390.com.au 583.com.au 740.com.au 913.com.au
219.com.au 387.com.au 570.com.au 734.com.au 910.com.au
230.com.au 394.com.au 595.com.au 742.com.au 914.com.au
227.com.au 397.com.au 604.com.au 730.com.au 915.com.au
239.com.au 396.com.au 596.com.au 735.com.au 916.com.au
221.com.au 398.com.au 605.com.au 732.com.au 917.com.au
225.com.au 401.com.au 592.com.au 738.com.au 918.com.au
237.com.au 408.com.au 587.com.au 743.com.au 903.com.au
243.com.au 403.com.au 598.com.au 746.com.au 921.com.au
244.com.au 418.com.au 590.com.au 745.com.au 923.com.au
245.com.au 413.com.au 607.com.au 753.com.au 922.com.au
255.com.au 402.com.au 580.com.au 748.com.au 912.com.au
261.com.au 422.com.au 609.com.au 758.com.au 932.com.au
249.com.au 415.com.au 597.com.au 751.com.au 940.com.au
263.com.au 423.com.au 603.com.au 754.com.au 943.com.au
248.com.au 425.com.au 611.com.au 749.com.au 947.com.au
253.com.au 416.com.au 615.com.au 762.com.au 952.com.au
229.com.au 430.com.au 617.com.au 755.com.au 948.com.au
235.com.au 436.com.au 616.com.au 760.com.au 951.com.au
264.com.au 432.com.au 623.com.au 759.com.au 926.com.au
271.com.au 431.com.au 613.com.au 756.com.au 958.com.au
238.com.au 428.com.au 608.com.au 763.com.au 949.com.au
267.com.au 437.com.au 620.com.au 761.com.au 956.com.au
276.com.au 439.com.au 622.com.au 766.com.au 957.com.au
274.com.au 441.com.au 601.com.au 769.com.au 962.com.au
279.com.au 445.com.au 632.com.au 773.com.au 959.com.au
273.com.au 447.com.au 635.com.au 775.com.au 955.com.au
281.com.au 434.com.au 629.com.au 771.com.au 963.com.au
280.com.au 435.com.au 627.com.au 779.com.au 966.com.au
283.com.au 453.com.au 639.com.au 776.com.au 967.com.au
269.com.au 461.com.au 621.com.au 752.com.au 964.com.au
268.com.au 460.com.au 625.com.au 783.com.au 971.com.au
272.com.au 463.com.au 614.com.au 784.com.au 972.com.au
286.com.au 467.com.au 643.com.au 764.com.au 965.com.au
284.com.au 483.com.au 634.com.au 782.com.au 975.com.au
287.com.au 477.com.au 640.com.au 780.com.au 954.com.au
290.com.au 481.com.au 642.com.au 796.com.au 974.com.au
278.com.au 487.com.au 641.com.au 791.com.au 979.com.au
285.com.au 455.com.au 631.com.au 794.com.au 978.com.au
293.com.au 479.com.au 645.com.au 793.com.au 983.com.au
297.com.au 471.com.au 649.com.au 803.com.au 982.com.au
294.com.au 488.com.au 624.com.au 806.com.au 986.com.au
295.com.au 492.com.au 648.com.au 809.com.au 953.com.au
291.com.au 491.com.au 646.com.au 810.com.au 942.com.au
266.com.au 493.com.au 652.com.au 807.com.au 960.com.au
275.com.au 480.com.au 655.com.au 813.com.au 968.com.au
306.com.au 482.com.au 647.com.au 815.com.au 988.com.au
309.com.au 489.com.au 658.com.au 812.com.au 981.com.au
317.com.au 495.com.au 654.com.au 817.com.au 992.com.au
296.com.au 496.com.au 657.com.au 821.com.au 992.com.au
319.com.au 504.com.au 650.com.au 823.com.au 996.com.au
298.com.au 502.com.au 644.com.au 832.com.au 998.com.au
310.com.au 506.com.au 638.com.au 827.com.au 984.com.au
324.com.au 507.com.au 651.com.au 826.com.au 985.com.au
331.com.au 514.com.au 664.com.au 834.com.au 994.com.au
327.com.au 513.com.au 662.com.au 829.com.au 995.com.au
320.com.au 522.com.au 653.com.au 835.com.au
337.com.au 524.com.au 656.com.au 833.com.au
523.com.au 669.com.au 819.com.au
526.com.au

So that's 497 in total, meaning just over half of all numeric domains under 1,000 have been regged.

Last time I ran a check was in Feb when there were 652 available so they are selling out. Based on current reg levels it looks like they will all be gone in about 2 years. HOWEVER, there has been no interest in these really from investors up to now - most regos have been from end users. If we see something like what happened with LLLL.com, this buyout date could be rapidly brought forward.

It';s also interesting to note that whilst 50% of NNN's remain, only 10% of LLL's remain despite there being 16,500 more LLL's (or putting another way 17 LLL's for every 1 NNN)

Is this a typical scenario in all extensions can anyone tell me?

 

[barefoottech]

OK you asked

All avail NNN's

124.com.au ~ Large List ~! 819.com.au

In reality given the current state of .com.au values, allowed usage and general perceptions, Is there any real value in NNN.com.au names as investments?
Given the Purchase price + transfer fees + Renewal costs. How could anyone really make a profit from them in the foreseeable future?

Remember that all .com.au's purchased ,are subject to all the conditions of auDA. Including the provision that the names are NOT allowed to be purchased solely for resale. Names must be used during the 6 month hiatus period after purchased.

General reminder. auDA will and does delete names without warning if found to not meet the criteria for ownership.

All those .com.au's that don't even have park pages are currently being deleted .

 

[netfleet]

In reality given the current state of .com.au values, allowed usage and general perceptions, Is there any real value in NNN.com.au names as investments?
Given the Purchase price + transfer fees + Renewal costs. How could anyone really make a profit from them in the foreseeable future?

Remember that all .com.au's purchased ,are subject to all the conditions of auDA. Including the provision that the names are NOT allowed to be purchased solely for resale. Names must be used during the 6 month hiatus period after purchased.

General reminder. auDA will and does delete names without warning if found to not meet the criteria for ownership.

All those .com.au's that don't even have park pages are currently being deleted .

Good question & sound advice re auDA!

We are putting together a numerology series of websites for our numeric domains & with development (on & off site) we're hoping to generate enough traffic to at least pay for itself & maybe a bit more.

.au's aren't as expensive as many people think. You can get them for as low as A$25 for 2 years which equates to US$8.75 p.a.

My theory and advice for domaining within the .au space is to only register or purchase domains which you can see development potential. If you can, develop them to a point where they at least cover their costs, if not consider dropping them.

For me, if someone comes along looking to buy a domain then that's a bonus which will be considered at the time.

The only thing slowing down this progress is the curse of all developers - time (or lack thereof!).

I've never been a supporter of domain investment for the sake of investment alone in any extension. I can't see how it can be sustainable (eg LLLL.com). I think we, as domainers, sometimes get too carried away in this little industry and forget about what ultimately pays the bills - end users.

If we fail to create some sort of value for these end users (and this can be as simple as a parked page with relevant ads) then we'll lose this financial input.

So, in answer to your question, yes you can make money through domain investment in .au but not by mirroring the same methods used in .com (ie flipping between domainers, land rushes, buyouts etc) but by registering or buying with a view to end users.

Free registered .au's can still get great type-in traffic and, with some minimal development, stand a great chance to get search traffic too (unlike .com where it's just too competitive)

Everything you say about auDA is very good advice though & people should take heed...

 

[barefoottech]

Good question & sound advice re auDA!

au's aren't as expensive as many people think. You can get them for as low as A$25 for 2 years which equates to US$8.75 p.a.

My theory and advice for domaining within the .au space is to only register or purchase domains which you can see development potential. If you can, develop them to a point where they at least cover their costs, if not consider dropping them.

For me, if someone comes along looking to buy a domain then that's a bonus which will be considered at the time.

The only thing slowing down this progress is the curse of all developers - time (or lack thereof!).

I've never been a supporter of domain investment for the sake of investment alone in any extension. I can't see how it can be sustainable (eg LLLL.com). I think we, as domainers, sometimes get too carried away in this little industry and forget about what ultimately pays the bills - end users.

If we fail to create some sort of value for these end users (and this can be as simple as a parked page with relevant ads) then we'll lose this financial input.

So, in answer to your question, yes you can make money through domain investment in .au but not by mirroring the same methods used in .com (ie flipping between domainers, land rushes, buyouts etc) but by registering or buying with a view to end users.

Free registered .au's can still get great type-in traffic and, with some minimal development, stand a great chance to get search traffic too (unlike .com where it's just too competitive)

Everything you say about auDA is very good advice though & people should take heed...

thanks for your comments re. my auDA comments
(As a supplier member of auDA, I try to inform others that AU namespace has special considerations & needs)
Owning 59 developed .com.au + net.au domains, development is always my main reason to buy. .com.au can and DO make money from NON-Aussie traffic. Way too many people dismiss ccTLD's as only worthwhile for local traffic, forgetting all those developed and succesfull .cc & .tv sites to name just 2 cctld's that have been HUGE successes.

Regarding the pricing ,yes .com.au's are CHEAP , but the inflated transfer fees
add to the REAL cost of ownership/resale.

 

[backpackets]

netfleet,
My friend own itseosupport.com.au and he want to list at your site for sale .

What is the procedure and do auda has any restrictions about unused domain/park somewhere?

cheers mate.

 

[netfleet]

Regarding the pricing ,yes .com.au's are CHEAP , but the inflated transfer fees add to the REAL cost of ownership/resale.

Yes but the vast majority of any .au transfer fee is the fee for service from the registrar. The only fee to the registry is the $20.65 or whatever it is that the registrars pay for the 2 year renewal (which you get with the domain name of course).

So with competition & negotiation these fees can come well down....

netfleet,
My friend own itseosupport.com.au and he want to list at your site for sale .

What is the procedure and do auda has any restrictions about unused domain/park somewhere?

cheers mate

That's great! Yes please just tell him to sign up & follow the instructions. It's pretty straightforward & he can certainly contact me via the enquiry form if he gets stuck.

In terms of rules & regs best to visit www.auda.org.au. I'd like to be more specific in responding to your question but auDA have made it clear thay do not want us to relay information.

 

[backpackets]

Yes but the vast majority of any .au transfer fee is the fee for service from the registrar. The only fee to the registry is the $20.65 or whatever it is that the registrars pay for the 2 year renewal (which you get with the domain name of course).

So with competition & negotiation these fees can come well down....


That's great! Yes please just tell him to sign up & follow the instructions. It's pretty straightforward & he can certainly contact me via the enquiry form if he gets stuck.

In terms of rules & regs best to visit www.auda.org.au. I'd like to be more specific in responding to your question but auDA have made it clear thay do not want us to relay information.

Thanks for the informations.

I ll ask him to register soon at your site.

 

[netfleet]

Here are the .au's for the TRAFFIC auction. Most have no reserve. Some nice ones there - good luck to all the sellers!

Authentication.com.au
SurfingLessons.com.au
Undergraduate.com.au
Broadcasting.com.au
MensClothing.com.au
JobListings.com.au
Parasailing.com.au
Barbecuing.com.au
DirtBiking.com.au
JetSkiing.com.au
Pollution.com.au
athletic.com.au
Branding.com.au
Jeweller.com.au
Laughter.com.au
Hunting.com.au
Jackets.com.au
Essays.com.au
Enter.com.au
Plans.com.au
Rules.com.au
Shout.com.au
Toons.com.au
Bake.com.au
Camp.com.au
Knit.com.au
CDs.com.au
Up.com.au

 

[DnEbook]

i didn't notice up.com.au ..... interested to see what that goes for ?????

 

[cbayley2001]

Parking revenue for .com.au's

Hi there - I am doing some research for a presentation at the TRAFFIC conference, I'm wondering if anyone can tell me CPMs and traffic numbers for their .com.au sites? Feel free to PMB me. More responses means the research will be better. Happy to share the research too (it will be top level not domain specific).