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Biden's Ukraine Scandal Explained by Glenn Beck
 
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Old News.

2015 NYT Story.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/...-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html

July 2019 New Yorker

“Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?
Joe Biden’s son is under scrutiny for his business dealings and tumultuous personal life.”

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/08/will-hunter-biden-jeopardize-his-fathers-campaign

The boy wonder with Chinese billions. A former swamp lobbyist. Revolving Door, favors, bribes, payoffs, it’s all in the family, just another day in DC, another non partisan issue, another crime family where influence runs in the family like Kennedys, Bushes, Pelosi, Feinstein, Waters, Clinton, McConnell, Paul Ryan.

https://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/rev_summary.php?id=20130
 
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One big club. Just like George Carlin says.

“As The Intercept has previously reported, the HNA Group has made unusually extensive efforts to cultivate U.S. officials. The company floated an offer to buy out the hedge fund owned by former White House official Anthony Scaramucci; retained the legal services of Gary Locke, the former U.S. ambassador to China, shortly before his confirmation; and provided financing to a private-equity firm backed by Jeb Bush. HNA Group, notably, also courted Bill Clinton, touting meetings with the former president at philanthropy events hosted by the company.

The Bank of China, one of the largest banks in the country, has also made overtures to U.S. political elites. Shortly after the 2016 presidential election, the company added Angela Chao, the sister of Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao and sister-in-law of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., to its board of directors.”

“ON WEDNESDAY, Human Rights Watch released a troubling report about a phone application made by the Chinese government. The app provides law enforcement with easy, daily access to data detailing the religious activity, blood type, and even the amount of electricity used by ethnic minority Muslims living in the western province of Xinjiang.

The app relies heavily on facial recognition software supplied by Face++, a division of the Chinese startup Megvii, a relationship that sparked questions in the press for Megvii investors. One of the most prominent of these investors is Alibaba Group Holding, which was co-founded by Jack Ma, the wealthiest Chinese billionaire and an icon for the country’s image of entrepreneurship.

The flurry of media reports about private investment in China’s increasingly sprawling surveillance state left out a prominent investor: Hunter Biden.
The flurry of media reportsthis week about Face++, Ma, and the role of the private sector in building China’s increasingly sprawling surveillance state, however, left out another prominent investor in the company: Hunter Biden.”


https://theintercept.com/2019/05/03/biden-son-china-business/
 
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At least Tulsi Gabbard will be in the next debate. But she's not crazy or crooked enough to pass the Democratic muster. She also seems to actually have principles - another disqualification. It's looking like the Dems will offer the epitome of entrenched corruption Biden, the fake Indian do anything for power Warren, or the woman who was willing to be the sex toy of a nasty and dirty old man to jump start her political career Harris. (Usually people send their daughters to law school so they can avoid being hookers.)

Any of those 3 are guaranteed losers. But eventually the door will open, and the neo-fascists (or a plain old criminal insider) will be in the White House.
 
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I don't think it's an issue. Hunter isn't running, Joe is. Trump would consider Hunter a lightweight compared to Trump's business dealings and issues with his personal life and all of this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Trump set a bar nobody can touch in regards to all of that.

“The business in China, although less famous at this point, was even worse. On what possible policy grounds would Joe Biden bring his adult son to China on Air Force Two, immediately after which the younger Biden emerged with an almost unprecedented $1.5 billion Chinese deal for his small investment fund?”

Both of these situations smell awful. Both of them call into question at least the..”

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/yes-the-bidens-are-ethically-compromised
 
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May 2019

“Why is Joe Biden so warm toward China?

Last week, Biden raised eyebrows when he shrugged off concerns over the China threat. “Come on, man,” Biden said. “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what, they’re not competition for us.”

Perhaps Biden’s insouciant attitude toward the Chinese government has to do with the fact that his family does not consider them competitors but business partners.”

https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/
 
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The guy is way too old, but look he actually used to be able to make sense.

 
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He also used to care about Illegal aliens being hired.

 
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I'm not spinning anything. You spend too much time on twitter.

1) If there was a legit problem, corrupt media and democrats wouldn't have to lie about it.

2) New Ukraine President elected to fight corruption, on-going investigation into collusion between DNC and Ukraine were reasons corruption was brought up.

3) Waiting until after the phone call to release military aid after a change in Government is prudent and would happen under any administration.

Amazing how comfortable liberals are with Biden son obviously selling access to US Gov and democrat senators threatening to withhold financial aid to Ukraine unless the Gov agreed to help them attack President Trump.

How a Presidential phone call is transcribed:
https://twitter.com/LarryPfeifferDC/status/1176587533322342400

You're trying to spin it as expected. Not the full transcript. You didn't tell me how Ukraine started the convo, because they didn't,Trump did. He didn't care about this stuff until after Biden became a candidate. What has been released is clear as day. Also, didn't touch the aid getting released when this story first broke. It's amazing to watch Trumpers try to spin this as anything good for him.

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As far as Dems, basically a 2 person race, Biden and Warren. Sanders and Warren basically the same. Sanders should drop out and Warren would get a lot of those votes and then actually have a chance.

Biden up 7.7 over Trump, last Fox News poll had him up 14 points - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

He'll probably pick Klobuchar as his running mate, solid moderate.

What about those Never-Trumpers? Easier to vote for a moderate like Biden, than somebody that leans left like Sanders/Warren. I think they come into play in this election. Trump has made too many enemies.
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Democrat Rep. Adam Schiff (CA) admits that his blatant fabrication of quotes from Trump's Ukraine call was "wrong" after he got called out. Schiff claims it was a "parody"

He's super serious you guys...
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1177234527384555520

Sad to watch intelligent people keep falling for the same b/s because they can't let go of their TDS.
 
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Republican theory being floated: House Intel committee lawyers consulted on the WB complaint.
 
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Trump isn't a good man but is an OK President.

Over the last three years the democrats have completely exposed their own corruption and lack of morals in their desperate attempts to regain power.

The democrat party has become such an evil malignancy on our Republic; they make the republican party look like the sane choice.
 
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Trump isn't just a bad man but is also a really bad President.

Over the last three years the republicans have completely exposed their own corruption and lack of morals in their desperate attempts to protect this President.

The republican party has become such an evil malignancy on our Republic; they make the democratic party look like the sane choice.

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This is more true then what you said.
 
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Here comes the part where they all throw each other under the bus. I predict trump -> Rudy -> Pompeo -> Maguire? Mnunchin?

The misogyny of the trump cult is truly remarkable. <- not going to glorify the post that prompted my comment with a quote.

Well aside from Tulsi, But she’s gop masquerading as a Democrat. Didn’t the trumpies on the “Chan’s” have something going where they were encouraging people to support her and Williamson to keep them in the debates?
 
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Trump is a Sick and Twisted Narcissistic Ego Maniac who considers his supporters like Gilsan and Mr-X his minions and exist only to Serve him.

He cares nothing about you, he cares nothing about anyone but himself.

He is a very Sick man.
 
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Trump isn't just a bad man but is also a really bad President.

Over the last three years the republicans have completely exposed their own corruption and lack of morals in their desperate attempts to protect this President.

The republican party has become such an evil malignancy on our Republic; they make the democratic party look like the sane choice.

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This is more true then what you said.

Let's look at the proof:

Russia hoax - Adam Schiff repeatedly claiming he had sold evidence Trump committed a crime. He didn't.

Repeated, baseless allegations Justice Kavanaugh is a rapist. Every allegation brought by democrat operatives and disproven by evidence.

Media and Democrats lying to misscharacterize the transcript of call between Presidents.

Intolerant cancel culture

Intolerant identity politics which makes a persons race, gender, victim status more important than the quality of their character and often, the truth.

Democrat House chairman just did a "riff" parody of the transcript of a call between Pres. Trump and Pres. Zelensky in his opening speech because the actual call wasn't the "smoking gun" they were hopping for.

Disregard for #1st, #2nd amendments, due process, electoral college, election security,

Then let's consider the antisemitism, religious intolerance, support for killing human babies 1 second before birth, leaving abortion survivors to die, sexual perversion, on and on.

Sanctuary cities putting illegal alien criminals before tax paying citizens.

Cities racked with violence, property crime, homelessness ( in a booming economy ), drugs, trash, disease like typhoid, the black plague, tuberculosis...

People dedicating in public, drug use, decriminalization and tolerance for crimes including shop-lifting, smash and grabs, drug abuse,

Supporting violent gangs ( antifa ) who stop traffic, attack citizens, vandalize businesses for having opinions they don't like.

Child transvestites.

Transvestite story hour at libraries

Letting 3 year olds "pick" their gender
 
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You know what democrats aren't doing?

Infrastructure
deficit spending
immigration
entitlement program fraud
 
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When you have no honest argument:
Trump is a Sick and Twisted Narcissistic Ego Maniac who considers his supporters like Gilsan and Mr-X his minions and exist only to Serve him.

He cares nothing about you, he cares nothing about anyone but himself.

He is a very Sick man.

Conditional support for a politician isn't service, rejecting a corrupt narrative crafted by dishonest politicians and their media enablers is patriotic.
 
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You know what democrats aren't doing?

Infrastructure
deficit spending
immigration
entitlement program fraud
You know what republicans aren't doing?

Standing up to Trader Trump (they are scared of him and have sold their souls to him)
Protecting us from mass shooters (better background checks and a ban on Assault riffles)
Infrastructure (there is no real plan in place)
deficit spending (we have to pay for the tax cuts to the very rich for many years to come)
 
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When you have no honest argument:


Conditional support for a politician isn't service, rejecting a corrupt narrative crafted by dishonest politicians and their media enablers is patriotic.
When you are in complete Denial.
 
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Trump is already starting to really lose it today by calling the people who helped the whistle blower "SPIES"
And indicating they should be Executed for their actions.

You know, The way we use to handle Spies
I guess he is referring to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg.
 
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Still waiting for proof comrade.
LOL....Open your eyes and ears and you will have all the proof you will ever need.
 
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