discuss The new dot everything showcase and discussion

[Keith]

Well it appears as though it's happening. The launch of .land, .bike, .this, and .that is here and many more to come.

Show off your new .whatevers here and discuss why these are or are not good investments. Keep it cool, calm, and productive

I'll start with my new regs... absolutely none!

 

[McDuke]

believe it or not, its mostly people who are new to domaining.. happens every time a new TLD comes out, somebody buys everything or most things under the sun with some high hopes of flipping them or "holding them long term" (or so they say they're gonna hold them long term)

the difference now with 1,000 gTLD is you really cant buy everything under the sun - but even the really good terms are not gonna be flippable.. most of the people who publicly say they're gonna "hold for 5 years" probably registered sub-par stuff to begin with or their enthusiasm will run out when renewal comes around.

it a natural development that almost all domainers do from what i have read or discussed. Portfolios get whittled down to manageable levels and the spontaneous impulse crap names get dropped after the first year. There is a difference in hand regging a 2$ name and re-regging a 10$ name.

 

[mjnels]

it a natural development that almost all domainers do from what i have read or discussed. Portfolios get whittled down to manageable levels and the spontaneous impulse crap names get dropped after the first year. There is a difference in hand regging a 2$ name and re-regging a 10$ name.

yeah, but its important to realize with these 1,000+ gtld there are a lot of decent stuff to register... but because there are 1,000+ choices that means there is no aftermarket for them.... or what sells will be completely random.. like "magazine.photography"

before 1,000+ gTLD you could register mega keywords like "casino" or "sex" and no matter the extension, could flip them for some amount. its probably different now with so much supply.. so what is going to end up happening is new domainers come in and go OMG i cant believe customized.computer is available to register.. thats a for sure winner! well, it might be a decent name but it doesnt mean you'll be able to flip it for more than the registration fee was.

i think gTLD are going to be used a ton in the future.. but i dont think its going to be profitable for domainers because of the overwhelming supply available..

 

[RU]

How domainer see new gTLD

P.S. I stopped registering domains..

 

[McDuke]

yeah, but its important to realize with these 1,000+ gtld there are a lot of decent stuff to register... but because there are 1,000+ choices that means there is no aftermarket for them.... or what sells will be completely random.. like "magazine.photography"

before 1,000+ gTLD you could register mega keywords like "casino" or "sex" and no matter the extension, could flip them for some amount. its probably different now with so much supply.. so what is going to end up happening is new domainers come in and go OMG i cant believe customized.computer is available to register.. thats a for sure winner! well, it might be a decent name but it doesnt mean you'll be able to flip it for more than the registration fee was.

i think gTLD are going to be used a ton in the future.. but i dont think its going to be profitable for domainers because of the overwhelming supply available..

No I agree, domainers need to pick wisely. I think certain keyword + extensions will fetch a premium.

 

[forge]

So now .CLUB is advertising such "diverse" organization domains as selfie.club, petfood.club and killerwhale.club (no joke), further displaying how much of a farce this money grab charade really is.

 

[mjnels]

what???!?!? people are trying to make money on something that isnt necessary?

OMG im so fake outraged! do you protest outside ice cream stands? ice cream isnt necessary, it makes people fat and furthermore nobody asked for those weird flavors and im outraged they are even offered for sale when vanilla and chocolate are clearly the only type of ice cream in demand.

you know what else is a money grab? domaning.

 

[Cool.Ventures]

believe it or not, its mostly people who are new to domaining.. happens every time a new TLD comes out, somebody buys everything or most things under the sun with some high hopes of flipping them or "holding them long term" (or so they say they're gonna hold them long term)

the difference now with 1,000 gTLD is you really cant buy everything under the sun - but even the really good terms are not gonna be flippable.. most of the people who publicly say they're gonna "hold for 5 years" probably registered sub-par stuff to begin with or their enthusiasm will run out when renewal comes around.

I've been a domainer since 1996, before Shilling and am buying a lot of new gtld domains.

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yeah, but its important to realize with these 1,000+ gtld there are a lot of decent stuff to register... but because there are 1,000+ choices that means there is no aftermarket for them.... or what sells will be completely random.. like "magazine.photography"

before 1,000+ gTLD you could register mega keywords like "casino" or "sex" and no matter the extension, could flip them for some amount. its probably different now with so much supply.. so what is going to end up happening is new domainers come in and go OMG i cant believe customized.computer is available to register.. thats a for sure winner! well, it might be a decent name but it doesnt mean you'll be able to flip it for more than the registration fee was.

i think gTLD are going to be used a ton in the future.. but i dont think its going to be profitable for domainers because of the overwhelming supply available..

It's no different than .com domainers in that all it takes is one special buyer.

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what???!?!? people are trying to make money on something that isnt necessary?

OMG im so fake outraged! do you protest outside ice cream stands? ice cream isnt necessary, it makes people fat and furthermore nobody asked for those weird flavors and im outraged they are even offered for sale when vanilla and chocolate are clearly the only type of ice cream in demand.

you know what else is a money grab? domaning.

Great point! Never thought of it quite like that

 

[scandiman]

what???!?!? people are trying to make money on something that isnt necessary?

OMG im so fake outraged! do you protest outside ice cream stands? ice cream isnt necessary, it makes people fat and furthermore nobody asked for those weird flavors and im outraged they are even offered for sale when vanilla and chocolate are clearly the only type of ice cream in demand.

you know what else is a money grab? domaning.

mj, you've been saying the same thing for years and it never gets boring. Domains aren't necessary, we could all just use IP addresses.

 

[gc1282]

Registered - chauffeur.center

 

[mjnels]

domainer sells handreg domain for 60k = congrats! go get em tiger! yeah!!!!

registry sells domain for 5k = what a cash grab! they should be ashamed! yeah!!!!

 

[scandiman]

domainer sells handreg domain for 60k = congrats! go get em tiger! yeah!!!!

registry sells domain for 5k = what a cash grab! they should be ashamed! yeah!!!!

Ghosts of mobi discussions past lol, and still applicable.

 

[fhg1]

Do you know if it's normal for the renewal price of the new domains to differ?

I have a few .tips domains and the renewal price for 2 of them is 250$ while for others it's just 22$.

I have already sent a question to the company I used to register the domains but it's taking a while to get answers.

 

[Keith]

domainer sells handreg domain for 60k = congrats! go get em tiger! yeah!!!!

registry sells domain for 5k = what a cash grab! they should be ashamed! yeah!!!!

It's a difference of cherry picking the best inventory for yourself and being savvy, working for it. The latter is a domainer...

 

[mjnels]

there is nothing wrong with a registry acting as a domainer though if thats what they want to do. its no more a cash grab then me buying and holding good terms.

maybe the method wont work out for some registries, maybe it will but there is nothing unethical about selling certain words for more than others as a registry.

 

[scandiman]

It's a difference of cherry picking the best inventory for yourself and being savvy, working for it. The latter is a domainer...

Since when is envisioning, investing in, applying for, staffing and promoting a new TLD not work or savvy? This is smelling a lot like envy.

 

[Keith]

Since when is envisioning, investing in, applying for, staffing and promoting a new TLD not work or savvy? This is smelling a lot like envy.

I don't envy folks, companies that stack the deck. The sad part is that new domainers don't know any better. Similar to a new poker player sitting down at a table of pros. The outcome is already determined...

 

[mjnels]

nah, wait a minute... everything ends up this way.

back when i first started selling laptops online almost all the wholesale companies did not do retail.. they mostly stuck to wholesale, often times the lots would be mixed you'd get stuff graded A to D condition then the retailers could grade them, if they wanted - and sell some for higher prices.

several times i remember thinking, damn... why dont any of these places with an insane amount of inventory hire a retail guy - hell i'd work for them, pay me 100k a year and they'd still make money.

well, now almost all the wholesale places do retail now too. it closed the price gap and made competition much harder since, why would they sell everything for the same low price when they can make more money... do i yearn for the old days? yea, but so what.. its not stacking the deck. its business and stuff changes

 

[Keith]

its not stacking the deck. its business and stuff changes

How did stacking the deck work for .mobi? How is it working for .tv which is now keeping drops for themselves?

It's never good to plateau as a business. Constant growth is key for success. A quick cash grab, like these sketchy knockoffs are attempting to do, spells doom. If the product is so great, release it and let the market run with it. Selling the public shit while you hold back the gold isn't a viable plan IMO.

 

[mjnels]

How did stacking the deck work for .mobi? How is it working for .tv which is now keeping drops for themselves?

It's never good to plateau as a business. Constant growth is key for success. A quick cash grab, like these sketchy knockoffs are attempting to do, spells doom. If the product is so great, release it and let the market run with it. Selling the public shit while you hold back the gold isn't a viable plan IMO.

not really sure what your point is - someone is still selling the domain for higher than normal registration fee.. thats the end result.

whether its a traditional "domainer" or the registry they originated from doesnt make any difference to the person buying the domain. see things from the other side of the fence - the end user side - you think they care whether its a domainer or the registry?

 

[Keith]

not really sure what your point is - someone is still selling the domain for higher than normal registration fee.. thats the end result.

whether its a traditional "domainer" or the registry they originated from doesnt make any difference to the person buying the domain. see things from the other side of the fence - the end user side - you think they care whether its a domainer or the registry?

Typically there is no enduser. The word "enduser" is a myth in most cases.

There is a huge difference in believing in your product and a cash grab. One has a long term plan to succeed while the other just wants to bleed ignorant people of their money.

 

[mjnels]

Typically there is no enduser. The word "enduser" is a myth in most cases.

There is a huge difference in believing in your product and a cash grab. One has a long term plan to succeed while the other just wants to bleed ignorant people of their money.

wait a minute... when you sell a domain to someone do you take into consideration their long term plan for success?

what if you think pretty strongly they're paying too much - you'd lower the price for them?

 

[Jasonn]

mjnels really loves to argue/debate all of this while having zero stake in it. i don't know why you waste your time.

 

[scandiman]

How did stacking the deck work for .mobi? How is it working for .tv which is now keeping drops for themselves?

It's never good to plateau as a business. Constant growth is key for success. A quick cash grab, like these sketchy knockoffs are attempting to do, spells doom. If the product is so great, release it and let the market run with it. Selling the public shit while you hold back the gold isn't a viable plan IMO.

Are we talking domains or tech IPOs, kinda hard to tell lol

 

[mjnels]

mjnels really loves to argue/debate all of this while having zero stake in it. i don't know why you waste your time.

i see, so it would be a better position to be buying tons of these while arguing what i am.. im sure nobody would be critical then and call me out for having a bias.

i work at home. domains are something i have an interest in. i may buy some gTLD later, but not right now.

 

[Keith]

wait a minute... when you sell a domain to someone do you take into consideration their long term plan for success?

what if you think pretty strongly they're paying too much - you'd lower the price for them?

I buy domains to sell at a profit. It's true that a registry should also be thinking of how to profit. The question is...is a quick cash grab better than a solid business plan that seeks continued growth?

These fly by night tld owners seem to want quick cash which ultimately hurts domain investors that don't know any better.