discuss The new dot everything showcase and discussion

[Keith]

Well it appears as though it's happening. The launch of .land, .bike, .this, and .that is here and many more to come.

Show off your new .whatevers here and discuss why these are or are not good investments. Keep it cool, calm, and productive

I'll start with my new regs... absolutely none!

 

[Ms Domainer]

ICANN Jumps the Shark

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I like JumpingThe.Shark

Apologies to The Fonz.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4ZGKI8vpcg[/VIDEO]

Fonzie Jumps the Shark​

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[decades80]

Just a quick question. Ive bought today keyword .systems which matches the extension perfectly. I just parked it and there are no Google ads showing. Is this normal, or my gTLD domain is Google Blocked??!!

 

[DnEbook]

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I like JumpingThe.Shark

Apologies to The Fonz.

FonziesShorts,Xyz ,,, ayy

 

[acucentric]

It's not a matter of hate, it's trying to look ahead and opinions. Everybody grows trends. Adults also tend to have money. How does a teen grow a tld? Again, the only way is if they build some site that gets out there and used by the public on a daily basis. Is there another way you were thinking of?

Well, you mentioned that you "hate" .xyz. That was all I was referring to...your initial mention of full-on hatred.


As for everybody else's question about what tld's besides .com...

Here are a few:

no_url_shorteners
owl.ly
join.me
pomodoro.me (just recently became moosti.com d/t TM name infringement perhaps...not sure, but was popularized as pomodoro.me)
earthlink.net
cox.net
att.net
soup.io
rad.io
pen.io
hide.io
postach.io
vine.co
angel.co

Still not following, what does that have to do with new extensions? We've had lots of conversations on this, nobody has brought that up. I text, but see no connection between texting and domain extensions.

What I mean, is that they drop the "." It's like having a silent "e." They just say "Vine CO," for example.

When people speak in "text," they literally say "LOL" or "IMHO" or "TTYS" or "BTW." They speak in abbreviations. Anyway, young net saavy folks I've met don't seem to be bothered with the angst of "but it doesn't end in .com!!" In fact, they seem a little delighted by it. They like the novelty.

Here's the thing, as a domainer, if you are thinking that I am saying we can just buy "whatev.gtld" and make a return, that is not at all what I am promoting here in discussion.

What I am saying is that the new gtld's offer some out-of-the box naming possibilities, that could be fun and profitable. But definitely, the "splash" of the name will matter. Is it catchy? Will it market well? Does it have fun curb appeal?

The emotion of "delight" is super important in marketing. Read a little Seth Godin for more on that. And to market these new gtld's, the names need to delight the end-use buyer. Both the ultimate owner of the .gtld domain/website, and also its patrons.

And again, what I meant by the "we can hate .xyz all day long, but it doesn't matter" comment, is that domains and website names don't have to appeal to us (the real estate agents), it just has to appeal to the consumer (the home buyers).

As a domaining community, we need to think about what our customers want, not what we want. Selling is never about the owner, it's about the customer.

There is a new breed of customer out there is what I am wanting to discuss...

So if your customer is different than mine...that's cool. But it doesn't mean my choices are necessarily wrong. Not if they work. Not if they sell or draw traffic.

Which is why I am willing to experiment in this new market and see what happens.

On a lark, I got LeftRight.Center today.

My main beef with the new gtld's is will they become twitter and FB friendly? I have heard there are challenges with this currently. So again, I am not buying names willy-nilly in the thousands. This issue needs to be resolved.

 

[JB Lions]

What I mean, is that they drop the "." It's like having a silent "e." They just say "Vine CO," for example.

So for one of your domains - Healthy.Tips, if you drop the ".", they would text Healthy Tips and somehow the person on the other end would know that is supposed to be a site? If you said it like that, most would assume it's a .com. With the Healthy Tips, wouldn't you have to put the "." in there or dot?

There is a new breed of customer out there is what I am wanting to discuss...

We'll have to see. Fun, splash, catchy, delight etc, could be used for a lot of domain hacks, but I think those are pretty horrible for actual business. We could be thinking of different customers like you said (and that's ok) but the ones I'm thinking of tend to go with what they know works, is serious about business, don't like confusion, novelty, etc. As demonstrated by even some people here, some are just happy with being somewhere in Google. I don't think with those kinds of limitations for myself when buying domains for use or for selling to end users.

It's going to be really hard for domainers to make money, take one you mentioned: "Vine CO,"

you have:
.co
.company

other general company/business type extensions
.holdings
.ventures
.business
.ltd
.inc
etc

then specific ones that actually defines their business
.I was going to start listing some, but there are so many

So companies have all types of options with these second tier extensions.

You have some .lands, maybe they wait and get .realestates

 

[acucentric]

So for one of your domains - Healthy.Tips, if you drop the ".", they would text Healthy Tips and somehow the person on the other end would know that is supposed to be a site? If you said it like that, most would assume it's a .com. With the Healthy Tips, wouldn't you have to put the "." in there or dot?

Oh, now I see the misunderstanding...

No, what I mean is that these people speak like they text.

So when speaking, they say "Healthy (pause) TIPS."

Except that so far, it's been something like "Pomodoro ME."

Tips is too new yet.

As it regards naming and the "seriousness" of business. Many extremely popular websites have utterly ridiculous and made-up names these days.

When I search for something (service/product), I could give two hoots about the web name. I'm attracted to the listing/ad first.

Then, if the name is catchy and not too generic, I go there. Because catchy seems more like a real business to me. Someone who is committed to that particular business, and not just a landing page with obvious key words.

I go to websites based on search term results and word of mouth.

A catchy memorable name helps with both.

But I can totally appreciate your point of view and counter statements.

 

[Kate]

Here are a few:

no_url_shorteners
owl.ly
join.me
...

It's always the same flawed assessment: just because there is a very tiny group of prominent dotwhatever that are currently fashionable, you assume that alternate naming strategies can scale well.
All those sites running on exotic extensions are not representative at all, using a non-dotcom is part of a differentiation strategy precisely. If using an alt extension was something prevalent, then they would stop being different if you catch my drift.
The TLD of Libya for instance is not a good TLD for domaining purposes, just because there are a few websites on .ly. Have you sold any lately ? I'm not talking about something new, but something that has been around for a while.

As a domaining community, we need to think about what our customers want, not what we want. Selling is never about the owner, it's about the customer.

Where are the customers ? Domainers always put the cart before the horse. They buy domains then they figure out how to sell them, and then they are stuck
It's 100% speculation and wishful thinking.
If any extensions take off, there will always be time for domainers to adjust to the market accordingly.
The first mover advantage will seldom materialize, second mover advantage is more likely but still very remote. Lots of losers and few winners in this game.

 

[scandiman]

Lots of losers and few winners in this game.

Looking at com drops the same is true there as well but at least there are more buyers. But back to the new tlds it will be even more true there, so much so that I'm sitting it out completely, even names for dev purposes. The extra it will cost to acquire later if/when things take shape will be more than offset by the money saved by not making bets in this fuster cluck. I'm more than happy to wait and see.:gl::zzz:

 

[McDuke]

The extra it will cost to acquire later if/when things take shape will be more than offset by the money saved by not making bets in this fuster cluck. I'm more than happy to wait and see.:gl::zzz:

good point

 

[alien51]

It seems to me that the primary difference between .mobi and some of the new gtld's coming out is that some of these are are actual words with practical meaning, not just fuzzy abbreviations.

And with words, come phrases and semantics. Because of this, I predict a whole new game of domain naming with be created.

Exactly what i had in mind.

MOBI doesn't mean anything. So it's hard for that to catch on. But .SOLUTIONS is not. And so are many other new gTLDs.

For example, if you are an android game software company and you want the domain name BigRock, but all the regular extensions are taken. You can go for BigRock.Solutions.

bigrock,solutions is much better than bigrock.mobi

Somebody already got that name? You can try bigrock.games.
Somebody already got that name? You can try bigrock.apps.
Somebody already got that name? You can try bigrock.software.
Somebody already got that name? You can try bigrock.systems.
Somebody already got that name? You can try bigrock.company.

Domainers will lose a lot of money trying to guess and reg all the possible combinations, because end-users now have more options to choose from.

Not to mention that if domainers were able to occupy all the possible bigrock gTLDs that will ever launch, an end-user can be happy to use a twisted version like "thebigrock.solutions" or "mybigrock.games". They have done it in the coms, i don't know why they won't do it for all the other new gTLDs.

People have argued putting "the" in a domain kills it. Not really. It's not perfect, but if the word "the" is the only one that is standing in the way between me getting the domain i want, versus paying a domainer $18,000 for the com version, i will reg the "the" version for just 1.99 and i will be happy. I am currently running 3 websites with "the" infront and the sites are doing fine. The root word versions are actually parked by someone else, but i have been contemplating on securing a TM so that if ever the root word coms got sold to someone, they won't be able to use it to invade my niche space.

I think TMs will be more important now for end-users given that new gTLDs are opening more doors for competitors, and it will be impossible to do defensive regs on all of them.

 

[noonoo1]

Ok, Just registered

NewYork.Builders

fill yer boots

 

[forge]

Ha!

I just took a big dose of Tylenol and the fever is gone. My $40 is most likely gone too. I might ask for a grace delete as my brain temporarily shut down on that one.

NO GRACE FOR YOU!!!

 

[Ms Domainer]

.email domains

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I wasn't going to, but I registered three .email.

Just.email

Jen.email​

Just.email is kind of simple...easy to remember, and Justemail is regged in many of the major legacy gTLDs. Jen.email is strictly vanity.

I have one other, but I'm not so sure about it, so I will not mention it here.

My given first name is a serious premium, so I'll be passing on that -- too long anyway for an email address.

The renewals are reasonable ($25).

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[DU]

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I wasn't going to, but I registered three .email.

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$150 each? Why not consolidate and get just your first name?

 

[McDuke]

Ok, Just registered

NewYork.Builders

fill yer boots

You going to have the five families knocking on your door for this one.

 

[Ms Domainer]

.email domains

$150 each? Why not consolidate and get just your first name?

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My given full first name would have been very expensive, and the renewals would have been $100 per year. Someone else can reg that happiness.

The three non-premiums will have a renewal rate of about $23 each, less than just the expensive one.

Just.email and the other one are generic words and, thus, easy to remember. I am using this as a business email redirect.

Jen.email will be my personal email.

I have to admit, though: I keep wanting to tack on a .com -- old habits die hard.

But from a technical standpoint, the .email is working just as it should.

Though I admit that it's gonna be a bumpy ride for the gTLDs.

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[Kate]

What's the point of .email ? A TLD for email only ? Should you then host your website on a .web, your FTP site on a .ftp and perhaps you need a separate extension for telnet too ? Oh don't forget .tel, it will come handy to share your contact information :bah:
That's it, it is almost as useful as .tel.

 

[McDuke]

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Jen.email will be my personal email.
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I am going to try and grab my name but i was wondering why didnt you get

jens.email?

 

[biggie]

What's the point of .email ?


it is almost as useful as .tel.

:talk:


at this point, it's so funny my side is hurting. doing too much laughing at these $25 a wop .email and .pizza regs



Good Luck!

 

[DnEbook]

:talk:


at this point, it's so funny my side is hurting. doing too much laughing at these $25 a wop .email and .pizza regs



Good Luck!

Hmmmm .Pizza …….Doh !