Located in "Short" Domain Discussion, started by italiandragon, Feb 8, 2008
Best I could do The auction houses have more info, I'm sure.
On DNJ today
OA.com sold for €554,000 on Feb 27, 2020 topic is LLL.com, but 2/3 letters are the same!
add “A” in front of “OA” too similar..! therefore;
AOA.com sold for $200K, is market value?
Hi @Acroplex --
Are you basing the 14 September 2011 possession date based off of a WHOIS update date from or around a 14 February 2012 historical WHOIS entry? Or a secondary source?
The reason I ask (or am simply adding additional details that may be relevant and/or overlooked),
using WHOIS history from DomainIQ,
the last entry around 14 SEP 2011 is from 14 FEB 2012,
and it shows a WHOIS updated of 14 SEP 2011,
now under Domains By Proxy privacy,
with a new 21 OCT 2020 expiration date.
Noting, the previous archived WHOIS date is from 13 MAY 2011,
and it shows an expiration of 21 OCT 2017,
with a last update from 03 AUG 2008.
Raising the question of,
Did WTL.com change ownership/possession on/around 14 SEP 2011? Or is it known, or favored more heavily, to likely have occurred prior to or after SEP 2011?
Noted, possible errors or missing WHOIS History updated data, (not having access to DomainTools to cross check)
up until a 03 DEC 2010 DomainIQ entry, the WHOIS admin contact was firstname.lastname@example.org
and technical contact was [email protected].
Per the following 13 MAY 2011 archived WHOIS entry,
though the updated date still shows 03 AUG 2008, hence the question of error and a need to cross check.
the admin and technical contact appeared to have changed to email@example.com.
Cross checking the dates with Archive.org entries from the closest available entries:
10 FEB 2011 - Wesco Technologies, Ltd ceased operations in 2003.
11 AUG 2011 - Appears to be a Avanquest.com site template.
Concluding, or more so raising the question, could the 11 August 2011 archive.org entry site change, away from the ceased operations page to the avanquest.com site template, indicate a change of possession might have occurred prior to the mentioned until 14 September 2011. Unknowing exactly when the site content changed, and basing off of Archive.org entries, a site change looks to have occurred between 10 FEB 2011 and 11 AUG 2011.
It's possible that the Cox.net email was compromised - it's listed as "pwned" in the email database - but then again, many emails do. There are instances that such domains with ISP emails managing them were stolen using guessing/social engineering passwords via their support system.
Still, waiting for 12 years to dispose of a domain at a very low price point in the market seems not plausible. So I believe the theft occurred in recent times.
xgo.com $25,600 (expired name)
Though this may be a short-sighted question, and an easy answer for those more experienced than me, when attempting to determine the amount owners or other people who have had possession over the years, are there other factors to consider (besides WHOIS details) when assessing possession changes?
Such as, if somebody in possession of a domain changes the registrar login information, and leaves the WHOIS details to @EXAMPLEDOMAIN.com (such as @WTL.com), can the person in possession sell the login information and/or the registrar associated email/password combo? is it impossible for a domain to change ownership multiple times, perhaps on a black market, without WHOIS updates alerting possible red flags?
Something I wonder,
if a bulk WHOIS search was conducted on all LLL.com,
then sorted by update date, focusing on domains that haven't been updated in a number of years,
does that help certain scammers identify unused domains?
possibly to help discover (acquire a list of possibilities) if a domain owner has passed away, been incarcerated, or similar information that would lead to an eventual forfeiture?
then under an assumption that a domain is not being monitored, and the rightful owner won't be able to recover the domain before expiration, and the domain would likely be headed to expiration/auction,
could a scammer internally apply similar housing squatters rights (so to speak),
and take possession of an unused domain for X amount of years,
then after X amount of years of ownership, figure it's safe to sell?
Anything is possible if the legitimate owner doesn't know or doesn't do anything about it.
XGO.com buyer got a better price than shown on Namebio.
Yes, when I mentioned the sale at https://www.namepros.com/threads/th...iscussion-thread.429599/page-157#post-7704061 the auction at GoDaddy had just closed and I was not the winner. But the original winner did not pay, so it was offered to me instead at $21,418 being the second-highest bidder.
KTG.com - 18,500 euro at the Sedo GreatDomains auction that ended moments ago. About $20k at today's exchange rate.
Source :- https://tldinvestors.com/2020/05/ename-april-2020-sales.html
TQB sold for $11,482 in the eName auction.
Hat tip: @equity78
Highlight price in the first sentence, low price hard to find down list
TXO.com sold for $27,500 at Sedo.
Source: Sedo sales.
Although this is the lll.com thread, for me the most surprised sale was pate.com for only $4,409
Agree I meant to note that in the article but I hit publish. Could not believe that went that cheap on auction.
Not my sale
GXU.com $8,008 eName
It looks like it might have been an enduser sale.
This end user definitely got a deal of the lifetime.
I guess pate smells for some so the brand stinks?
most possiblely unsold with a reserve.
Check this whois info again in 30 days.
Updated Date: 2020-06-10T03:26:50Z
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