The Line I Will Not Cross

[RogueWriter]

I think it is kind of sorrowful that the .com .org .info .us , etc... for the domain name VirginiaTechMassacre has been registered, and that the .com is apparently a for profit site - at least that's the way it looks to me.

Somebody out there is a sick, sick person, IMO.


So, there are still bodies being pulled from buildings, and someone is trying to make money off of them.

The .org looks like a memorial site, at least.

 

[equity78]

I agree with you KWAN that's why I don't reg any medical domains I would not want to profit from any of that

 

[movingconcierge]

Thank you for confirming everything that was said about you. You're a joke.

 

[estibot.com]

I don't see much difference between publishing a newspaper with a 10-page xtra color coverage of the Virginia Tech massacre and registering the domain name for it. CNN probably has their own theme music and a fancy logo for the massacre already..

Basically what's wrong with developing this domain name into an informational site about the massacre, there is civilwar.com (600,000 dead) with adsense and others were already mentioned here. It's exploitation, but it doesn't differ from TV, the newspapers let alone tabloids.

Besides, it wasn't such a big event, from a global perspective. In Baghdad, crap like this happens on a weekly basis with the suicide bombings. Nobody cares.

It is, like all killings, of course a terrible event and very sad, especially with such young people killed and injured. It's hard to comprehend these school shootings. I hope NPr members didn't lose any dear ones.

Josh

 

[movingconcierge]

You can't compare a legitmate news org like ny times / la times to turds like:

Athletic Model Scout Reps.
Warner Tavares
303 S. Recker Rd. #154
Mesa, AZ 85206
US
(602)677-9417
[email protected]

And the other incognito member who posted their "lame" post

 

[shockie]

sure the corporations are trying to make money, but in addition to that, they are also trying to help by dispersing information:

- where to get counseling
- what's being done from preventing such tragedies
- how people are coping with their lives
- how the public can help
- showing understanding/sympathy/empathy
- etc.

whereas SOME people *cough cough* are only looking to profit.

 

[estibot.com]

Yes I agree movingconcierge and shockie, it's horrible to try to coldly profit from a tragedy like this. News organizations are doing their job, which is to inform people, although I must say I wonder at times, with CNN and others, with their fancy theme music and logos and constant repetition of the most shocking videos and so on...

But in any case, you are right and I don't condone domaining like this, it gives this industry a bad name. And this is a very sad event.

 

[Spade]

Even more whois info! Now instead of his business, I believe we now have his home Addy!

This is the whois, from the email addy he used to contact him on the site. Same Name/Number - Different Snail mail address.

Warner Tavares
Warren (Warner) Tavares
695 W. Holestein Trail
Queen Creek, AZ 85242
US
(602)677-9417

 

[UneekTT]

Amazing that he did not get privacy, sad but true to form, some people just dont get it!

Checked the whois - idiot didnt even put privacy on it.

Heres the kicker!!! The address on file is not far from me (10 miles, tops)

Athletic Model Scout Reps.
Warner Tavares
303 S. Recker Rd. #154
Mesa, AZ 85206
US
(602)677-9417
[email protected]

now the issue - do I call the @sshole and congradulate him on a fine pickup?

 

[Spade]

Update:

I have emailed a local news station with all the information, and the story (if they consider it one). Hopefully tonight on the news theyll be infront of his house, trying to get an interview.

I'll keep you updated!

 

[S-L-O-W]

Update:

I have emailed a local news station with all the information, and the story (if they consider it one). Hopefully tonight on the news theyll be infront of his house, trying to get an interview.

I'll keep you updated!

It's cool that you're trying to help Justin... but how does this help me, you, or the industry. It's bad enough that a domainer is concidered a cybersquatter without any differentiation between the two ever made in the news or articles. I know your attempts are genuine but in the wake of this tragedy, I find it unlikely that the media would have a positive spin on it.

I think the best course of action is to avoid such sites/individuals. No one will buy from them anyways. But belaboring the morality of there actions simply castes notoriety to their deeds. This event was tragic, but we do not live in a tragic world.

Tomorrow, we go back to domaining.

 

[Skinny]

This is pretty sad.

33 lives and families have been changed by this event. Not to count the others at that school.

This is a very low move.

Skinny

 

[Damion]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

There are always exceptions.
The saying "Two wrongs don't make a right" may uphold in a utopia kind of world but not in this world.

I know what you're trying to say but it's not applicable at all times.

Generally speaking....

 

[Spade]

It's cool that you're trying to help Justin... but how does this help me, you, or the industry. It's bad enough that a domainer is concidered a cybersquatter without any differentiation between the two ever made in the news or articles. I know your attempts are genuine but in the wake of this tragedy, I find it unlikely that the media would have a positive spin on it.

I think the best course of action is to avoid such sites/individuals. No one will buy from them anyways. But belaboring the morality of there actions simply castes notoriety to their deeds. This event was tragic, but we do not live in a tragic world.

Tomorrow, we go back to domaining.

You ever been in a position where you find someones action morally reprehensible but theres nothing you can do. Other side of the world or country. Well, this guy lives in my hometown, and I suppose for the first time, I can actually do something. I dont want to just let him get away with this.

I know Domaining itself doesnt have the best reputation as a legitimate industry and the term squatter is practically synonnymous with domainer. But in my mind, when someone crosses the line between whats right and wrong, and I mean crosses the line, someone should do and or say something.

So, in this case, I did. Im sure my actions will draw negative attention, once again to what we do, but Im hoping it draws more negative attention to this individual, who thinks its acceptable to profit off of 30+ dead students, their friends, and family.

Justin

 

[GreenGambler]

Wow.. you pissed somebody off..

[Edit] -- opps I guess the moderators removed that post.. Wow.. that guy was mad and a first time poster.. probably the owner of that name.. LOL

I wish you hadn't contacted the news on this guy... All it will do is give his website more traffic and publicity.. There's no such thing as bad publicity when you are only looking to make a quick dollar like this person might be.
Also it will probably give us DNers even more negative attention, if a story is run.

I really appreciate your advice you've given me, I respect and have learned from your posts and like you as a fellow NPer but....
I would just leave it alone, all your doing is causing more, un-needed, drama! I'm sure you have more constuctive things to concentrate on ...SELL those DNs.., you seem to be pretty darn good at it

 

[Spade]

Wow.. you pissed somebody off..

I love this forum, how long did that last? 2 minutes?

 

[movingconcierge]

Not even two minutes. It was gone faster than my one line response to it. What a turd.

We should Charlie Wenzel this guy! Warning: addictive offsite thread. Well worth the time you'll spend reading it and a life lesson for some to learn.

I love this forum, how long did that last? 2 minutes?

 

[Dave_Z]

I don't see much difference between publishing a newspaper with a 10-page xtra color coverage of the Virginia Tech massacre and registering the domain name for it. CNN probably has their own theme music and a fancy logo for the massacre already..

Some magazines put images of such tragedies in their front covers. Do some
of you really think they donate all their net profit to charity?

Anytime you decide to "impose" your beliefs on someone else, another may be
ready to do the same to you. Karma goes both ways.

But if you insist, at least be ready for the consequences.

 

[circa1850]

For the record:

I have regged 51 domains names of things I know, what I am aware of, news I am picking up, and so on. All very highly searched terms, some very disturbing, many things that others are unaware of but will soon find out, and it is just a matter of time.

In an effort to stem this tide of capitalizing on a tragedy so close by, I have redirected all the domains to this site:

http://www.vt.edu/tragedy/memorial_fund.php

So don't call or post information about the registrant without checking the redirects. Also, there are others doing this. One person has already received to offers for one domain name that was not of Virginia Tech origin or affiliation.

I applaud your efforts, I think it is kind of funny, but when you get down to it, domains are serious business. My cost for registration is a non factor for my belief in doing what is appropriate.

I have contacted VT and let them know what I was doing and why. Some names may be disturbing but they will at least know someone is not profitting off of their sorrow and tragedy.

I also have given them permission to consider any for memorials or fund raising efforts. None are for sale.

 

[Spade]

Clearly there is dissenting opinion. And I understand your points. Whats the difference between the media profiting from this vs a domainer? Although there are clear similarities, there is a difference.

The difference is the media makes money by reporting the news, good or bad. Sometimes the media does go too far as well. But in my mind, the big difference here is substance. Although the media does profit, they provide us with information.

This domainer has simply registered a tragedy, and instead of providing usefull information or even any anything, he is selling a piece of intellectual property. It just seems so empty and heartless. Again, maybe your right, what is the difference between Him and the Media? Im not even sure I can exactly quantify it, but It doesnt "feel" right to me, and I have no problem telling him that.

Justin

 

[Binfus]

.....that's why I don't reg any medical domains I would not want to profit from any of that

IMO, that seems to be a bit extreme.....afterall, what would be wrong in having names like:

Antipsychotics.info
BipolarDisorder.info
EatingDisorders.info
MentalIllness.info

etc. etc. (all mine....and I do happen to have some background for using them properly)

Do you know lots of similar names (such as schizophrenia.info, psychosis.info, etc) are registered by BIG pharma....so why its legit for these mega companies to have them but not for a little guy like myself??