"The King is full of it"

[Sull]

I don't know Rick and have absolutely no opinion on this whatsoever, but thought I would share this YouTube video.

EPISODE I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CdP2Z4jGxE

EPISODE II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuIRvFaMhls

 

[mjnels]

if they accepted IDNs into the auction my guess is, like .mobi, there currently would be very little interest among the specific crowd attending/bidding.

this might be due to lack of understanding, hearing rumors, or just plain not interested, etc.. the point is that even potentially viable ideas go through periods where they are largely ignored/shunned or achieve what is perceived as low aftermarket prices.

 

[Kate]

Taken from this interview :

"I probably had a blog before there were blogs."

So does that mean that Rick Schwartz actually invented blogs ?

Wait, didn't he invent the Internet too ?

 

[Name Trader]

Wait, didn't he invent the Internet too ?

Nope. That was Al Gore

 

[raredn.com]

Nope that was George W Bush

 

[hawkeye]

can someone tell me how this man is a benefit to the Internet in any way?

First off, he's got all these 'pundits' here 'still' discussing him like they have for the last 8-9 years.

Funny, everyone was talking before about how they wanted to do what he did and make millions buying and selling domains, and what a bunch of great names he has. And now everyone is trashing him for being full of himself and his course of actions with his domains, as they sit with their portfolios of .info, .net, .whatever L-L-L-L's, CVCVCV's and whatever .unrenewable's they have, like the new experts 'they' are. Everyone seems to know about and read about him, but how many trashers are known by anything but their moniker in some forum. Just one name he sold this year will be more than all these 'trashers' have sold combined, but 'he's' the loser???

Ahhh, to bask in the glory of 'also rans'.

 

[gazzip]

Just one name he sold this year will be more than all these 'trashers' have sold combined, but 'he's' the loser???

Ahhh, to bask in the glory of 'also rans'.

I wish I was half the "loser" he supposedly is :tu:
(..as long as I don't have to wear those freaky shirts! )


Although what -db- has pointed out is proven to be fact the mans still a WINNER :tu:

.....no wonder the big shots don't come round here, they'd probably get a bollocking - pass the rope ! :yell:


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Check out his website.

www.digimedia.com

Cool, thanks Charley !


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[Alex]

Cool, thanks Charley !

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When will all this confusion stop? DigiMedia is owned by Scott Day.

 

[gazzip]

When will all this confusion stop? DigiMedia is owned by Scott Day.

..nobody is confused, just slightly off topic but related and correct

My vote for "current" domain king is Schilling for the same reasons plus his blog was excellent :tu:

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reply

I like Scott Day better.

question

Thats the WaterMelon Man right ? - Do you have any links to articles about him I could read ?

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Check out his website.

www.digimedia.com

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[Rubber Duck]

iReport.com was a good sale.

But somebody please tell him it is not a Generic. It drive me nuts when he describes all his brandables as Generics.

First off, he's got all these 'pundits' here 'still' discussing him like they have for the last 8-9 years.

Funny, everyone was talking before about how they wanted to do what he did and make millions buying and selling domains, and what a bunch of great names he has. And now everyone is trashing him for being full of himself and his course of actions with his domains, as they sit with their portfolios of .info, .net, .whatever L-L-L-L's, CVCVCV's and whatever .unrenewable's they have, like the new experts 'they' are. Everyone seems to know about and read about him, but how many trashers are known by anything but their moniker in some forum. Just one name he sold this year will be more than all these 'trashers' have sold combined, but 'he's' the loser???

Ahhh, to bask in the glory of 'also rans'.

 

[Pred]

iReport.com was a good sale.

But somebody please tell him it is not a Generic. It drive me nuts when he describes all his brandables as Generics.

lol
i agree. i actually did on his blog when he ran the story
:sold:

 

[Alex]

..nobody is confused, just slightly off topic but related and correct
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OK, got it

 

[Kate]

...
Just one name he sold this year will be more than all these 'trashers' have sold combined, but 'he's' the loser???

Ahah well put
At least if he dropped his TM names we could take him more seriously :bah:

 

[equity78]

The basic problem is that Rick in common with a lot of Americans sees no merit in other people communicating in their own languages and believes that it would just be much simpler for everyone else to speak English. IDNs therefore have no value.

How can one argue with logic like that!

The problem is that there are always opposite opinions out there and no amount of logical argument will influence some people. At the end of the day people are either right in their judgements or they are not. I wish you well with your investments but rather fear you are going to need it.

Personally, I am very concerned about the way certain genres of domains are hyped by those with vested interests. I look at the promotion of IDN differently. I regard it as an education process, but of course there is always the risk that the Chinese will never understand why their government is trying to force them to use web addresses in their own language. And of course if that is the case then I will also be viewed as guilty of pumping domains. I think on balance, however, that is a risk that I am prepared to take.

First off Duck you can speak about Rick because he has rebuffed you, but don't say most. Your Anti-American digs that are so common in a lot of your posts are really non sense. I believe in IDN but I do not own any, why ? because you cannot own everything and be involved in everything. I see them as no threat and they will grow and do well,there is room for everyone on the net IMO.

Secondly you promote your vested interest too you are not an educator. You are not Aristotle you are a Domainer with a vested interest in IDN who trys to spread it everywhere even in threads that have nothing to do with IDN. Spin it anyway you like you are nothing more than a promoter of your agenda. Again IMO

 

[mjnels]

yea, the "like most Americans" thing is getting really old. you are not going to get much respect from people starting out like that...

i am in the same spirit as equity78 here, i think IDNs are a good idea but i dont own any because i cant keep up with all the niches and succeed. same with .TV domains... anyone who has flipped on the television lately has noticed this extention is picking up steam.. yet i dont own any of those either. (okay, i do have 1)

domaining is already a niche within itself. if you try to do it all, often times you end up spreading yourself too thin and there is somebody doing what you are trying to do better and more focused. focus is the key, not many of us are superman.

 

[equity78]

IN General not at one person I do not understand the mentality of minding everyones business and criticizing their portfolio. Who cares is you think .mobi sucks ? or .biz is a joke, or people will never use IDN's. IF that is what someone thinks stick to your interest and leave other people alone unless you are refuting absolute lies or outrageous hype that can not be substantiated. But the constant my niche is better than yours is just a waste of time IMO

There, has been money made in everything, LL,LLL, LLLL, LLLLL, IDN, mobi, biz, exotic tlds, .tv, hyphens,.us on and on. There is no one way and your way is not right for everyone.

If I see mobi spelled mobey one more time I am throwing this laptop through a window and I am not a .mobi domainer. WOW get over it move on, you have a finite time on this planet how does anyone spend 1 second with this incessant nonsense. Again IMO and I could care less who agrees, I don't need anyones validation and neither should you.

 

[mjnels]

people like to have strong/extreme opinions on popular topics.. its sexy.

it just takes a certain type of personality....

 

[hawkeye]

IN General not at one person I do not understand the mentality of minding everyones business and criticizing their portfolio. Who cares is you think .mobi sucks ? or .biz is a joke, or people will never use IDN's. IF that is what someone thinks stick to your interest and leave other people alone unless you are refuting absolute lies or outrageous hype that can not be substantiated. But the constant my niche is better than yours is just a waste of time IMO

There, has been money made in everything, LL,LLL, LLLL, LLLLL, IDN, mobi, biz, exotic tlds, .tv, hyphens,.us on and on. There is no one way and your way is not right for everyone.

If I see mobi spelled mobey one more time I am throwing this laptop through a window and I am not a .mobi domainer. WOW get over it move on, you have a finite time on this planet how does anyone spend 1 second with this incessant nonsense. Again IMO and I could care less who agrees, I don't need anyones validation and neither should you.

"Hear, Hear!"

 

[Pred]

yea, the "like most Americans" thing is getting really old. you are not going to get much respect from people starting out like that...

i am in the same spirit as equity78 here, i think IDNs are a good idea but i dont own any because i cant keep up with all the niches and succeed. same with .TV domains... anyone who has flipped on the television lately has noticed this extention is picking up steam.. yet i dont own any of those either. (okay, i do have 1)

domaining is already a niche within itself. if you try to do it all, often times you end up spreading yourself too thin and there is somebody doing what you are trying to do better and more focused. focus is the key, not many of us are superman.

:sold:

IN General not at one person I do not understand the mentality of minding everyones business and criticizing their portfolio. Who cares is you think .mobi sucks ? or .biz is a joke, or people will never use IDN's. IF that is what someone thinks stick to your interest and leave other people alone unless you are refuting absolute lies or outrageous hype that can not be substantiated. But the constant my niche is better than yours is just a waste of time IMO

There, has been money made in everything, LL,LLL, LLLL, LLLLL, IDN, mobi, biz, exotic tlds, .tv, hyphens,.us on and on. There is no one way and your way is not right for everyone.

If I see mobi spelled mobey one more time I am throwing this laptop through a window and I am not a .mobi domainer. WOW get over it move on, you have a finite time on this planet how does anyone spend 1 second with this incessant nonsense. Again IMO and I could care less who agrees, I don't need anyones validation and neither should you.

:sold:

both rimmed lol :sold:

np: couldn't rep ya eqiuity. too fond :wave:

 

[Rubber Duck]

Domains consist essentially of two bits. Keywords and Extension. Not really surprising that the merit and validity of both bits is common subject of discussion. Things would be a bit lop sided if only one of these elements were a valid subject of discussions.

On the American thing, I was merely responding to why IDN were not featured at TRAFFICS. The point if it needs to be rubbed in is that Rick is not head of our Industry. He has specifically and in quite a xenophobic way more or less limited himself to the segment that addresses the North American Market. He is not alone in this. In one instance that was total uproar when a .co.uk was introduced into a Moniker Auction, and I have witnessed members of the Audience behave in the most disgraceful way when I have IDNs in a Moniker Auction. For this reason, I do not feel it is even appropriate to try to enter domains at US venues. Of course many IDNers are from the US, and there are many very enlightened people in the Industry from the US, but I do not feel that my remarks were out of context or inappropriate. Ultimately of course, this is not our target market either, so whilst in the short-term it might be considered a nuissance, longer-term it really matters not to us whether signficant number of US players chose to become involved or not. However, in my view the IDN sector has vastly more potential than any other segment, so I do specialise. My portfolio is just about 100% IDN, because it is my opinion that it would be a serious dilution of my resources to become embroiled in anything else.

 

[Timewarp]

IN General not at one person I do not understand the mentality of minding everyones business and criticizing their portfolio. Who cares is you think .mobi sucks ? or .biz is a joke, or people will never use IDN's. IF that is what someone thinks stick to your interest and leave other people alone unless you are refuting absolute lies or outrageous hype that can not be substantiated. But the constant my niche is better than yours is just a waste of time IMO

When I was looking into mobi and tv in the last few months there were only a couple of naysayers in those forums willing to put up a fight and bring some other opinions to the threads, if they had just minded their own business and portfolios I would have made some bad buying decisions based on lack of information from only hearing positive side. In the end I bought a few names in both of those extensions anyway but the negative input definitely helped me pick better.

 

[equity78]

Big difference TIMEWARP in someone having an educated,informed thesis to back up their disliking of an extension. I am talking about 6th grade remarks like .mobi sucks or who will ever use IDN's without anything else.

I created the .tv forum and have been critical of many bad regs and verisign but it is done with logic behind it not just taking a cheap shot at someone else's portfolio. And critiquing an individual name is completely different than putting down a complete extension. I like .tv but Twizzle Sticks.tv sucks and so do a million other names. That is not saying .tv sucks or .mobi sucks.

DUCK that's fine but doesn't it make sense a lot of people would be sticking to their language ? I think the people who have great IDN's are going to do well, but I understand everyone not being there they are lucky they can pick good names in their own language. And you would have to agree IDN is not easy I have seen many people think they had sexy in Chinese and then someone from CHINA be like "what are you talking about?" There are many mistakes being made by those not into it like you are.

 

[lcbyou]

Dry humor & cold humor

 

[labrocca]

If I see mobi spelled mobey one more time I am throwing this laptop through a window and I am not a .mobi domainer. WOW get over it move on, you have a finite time on this planet how does anyone spend 1 second with this incessant nonsense. Again IMO and I could care less who agrees, I don't need anyones validation and neither should you.

Sounds like someone needs to take a computer break. :bingo:

 

[soggyindo]

man, this used to be a good thread. isn't there a .mobi vs. IDN discussion somewhere else?

 

[michaeldotcom]

man, this used to be a good thread. isn't there a .mobi vs. IDN discussion somewhere else?

NP is a fantastic forum with many great threads.

Unfortunately a few members always try to hijack just about every thread to push their IDN agenda or their .mobi agenda.