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I wonder what makes a TLD good or bad
We all saw many TLDs popping up
None of them succeed to break the .com "monopoly"
The companies that applied for .info , .biz .... had a detailed plan for the registry and they should also have large cash for it
What makes the previous TLD acquiring procedure different from this one ?
The fact that now it's easier but still need the same money (or more if the TLD ext. is auctioned) ?
All the known TLDs failed to take a decent share from the old TLDs even they had a marketing plan, a budget, different pricing policies.....
If ebay or any other company wanted to run a registry had the money and the power to do it anytime they wanted
Maybe large corps will get their name as a TLD extension too, so what ?
Is it the name of TLD that will flip the whole situation ?
I don't think so (for example i like much better pro from com as a name)
TLDs and Domain Trends are just a set of characters
The developed sites, their growth, the big companies that give their awareness to the TLD, the price and the tools, the people suggesting the TLD.... are the main factors for TLD success or not
Now if one new TLD manage to get 100 big corps like coca cola and 200 "little ones" like Microsoft use their TLD exclusively (and not with redirection) maybe this TLD have a chance to play at the same level with .net
I see only confusion to the users from this move
The ccTLD is a daily and total massacre
Thousands per day go to parked pages of .couk.com type (just an example) and even plain .com has lost visitors from people typing .kom at the end (and MANY OTHER typo examples)
Thousands believe that a name without the www. has wrong spelling and they type the www. even if you don't tell them to.
Are we really serious to say that this was a move from ICANN to give the chance for "everybody" to have a decent name ?
First of all with these money i don't think we can talk for "everybody" and second there are so many unregistered names with the current TLDs that even if you have unlimited money and time couldn't register them all in one lifetime
Anyway well done for ICANN
They could now increase their salary and take each one their dream car, house, plane, spaceship...
ICANN loved the idea of Sedo and now they decided to auction the TLDs
WHy didn't they get a LLLL.com to do it better ?
We can sell them one cheap, don't' we ?
We all saw many TLDs popping up
None of them succeed to break the .com "monopoly"
The companies that applied for .info , .biz .... had a detailed plan for the registry and they should also have large cash for it
What makes the previous TLD acquiring procedure different from this one ?
The fact that now it's easier but still need the same money (or more if the TLD ext. is auctioned) ?
All the known TLDs failed to take a decent share from the old TLDs even they had a marketing plan, a budget, different pricing policies.....
If ebay or any other company wanted to run a registry had the money and the power to do it anytime they wanted
Maybe large corps will get their name as a TLD extension too, so what ?
Is it the name of TLD that will flip the whole situation ?
I don't think so (for example i like much better pro from com as a name)
TLDs and Domain Trends are just a set of characters
The developed sites, their growth, the big companies that give their awareness to the TLD, the price and the tools, the people suggesting the TLD.... are the main factors for TLD success or not
Now if one new TLD manage to get 100 big corps like coca cola and 200 "little ones" like Microsoft use their TLD exclusively (and not with redirection) maybe this TLD have a chance to play at the same level with .net
I see only confusion to the users from this move
The ccTLD is a daily and total massacre
Thousands per day go to parked pages of .couk.com type (just an example) and even plain .com has lost visitors from people typing .kom at the end (and MANY OTHER typo examples)
Thousands believe that a name without the www. has wrong spelling and they type the www. even if you don't tell them to.
Are we really serious to say that this was a move from ICANN to give the chance for "everybody" to have a decent name ?
First of all with these money i don't think we can talk for "everybody" and second there are so many unregistered names with the current TLDs that even if you have unlimited money and time couldn't register them all in one lifetime
Anyway well done for ICANN
They could now increase their salary and take each one their dream car, house, plane, spaceship...
ICANN loved the idea of Sedo and now they decided to auction the TLDs
WHy didn't they get a LLLL.com to do it better ?
We can sell them one cheap, don't' we ?
I think we shouldnt worry. There is huge huge money at play here, more then anyone here on NP probably has.
First of all there will be millions of dollars in legal action. As other intelligent posters have already said sex.com will look to stop .sex and poker.com would look to stop .poker.
Secondly the bidding wars would be huge. .car or something would give the owner whole control of the extension and so wouldnt all car companies want to own it? These companies spend millions of dollars each year in projects which may or may not help them develop better cars without much hesitation so why wouldnt they spend millions on owning the .car tld?
Also there wont be thousands of extensions, apart from maybe companies buying there brand, some new useful extensions like .xxx, IDN extensions and generics there wont be anything else. Its not only 100k, infrastructure costs will be huge. It will probably cost 1 mil to get an extension off the ground without a bidding war. At 10$ a name they would have to sell 100,000 domains just to make up the cost of launching it and I doubt any extension not involved in a bidding war will sell that many.
With all this money involved all I can see to come from this is another .com (or should I say .tld) crash. Millions of dollars will be invested due to speculation., with no real return.
There are a number of reasons ICANN did this. They were in big trouble if they didnt create a new system to allow IDN extensions. Countries were threatening to do it themselves. So by doing this they protect there power. Secondly, it costs lots to do this so they saw a way of making money by offering other extensions for sale. Finally, I also think they didnt like the way domainers play the game, so they changed the game.
First of all there will be millions of dollars in legal action. As other intelligent posters have already said sex.com will look to stop .sex and poker.com would look to stop .poker.
Secondly the bidding wars would be huge. .car or something would give the owner whole control of the extension and so wouldnt all car companies want to own it? These companies spend millions of dollars each year in projects which may or may not help them develop better cars without much hesitation so why wouldnt they spend millions on owning the .car tld?
Also there wont be thousands of extensions, apart from maybe companies buying there brand, some new useful extensions like .xxx, IDN extensions and generics there wont be anything else. Its not only 100k, infrastructure costs will be huge. It will probably cost 1 mil to get an extension off the ground without a bidding war. At 10$ a name they would have to sell 100,000 domains just to make up the cost of launching it and I doubt any extension not involved in a bidding war will sell that many.
With all this money involved all I can see to come from this is another .com (or should I say .tld) crash. Millions of dollars will be invested due to speculation., with no real return.
There are a number of reasons ICANN did this. They were in big trouble if they didnt create a new system to allow IDN extensions. Countries were threatening to do it themselves. So by doing this they protect there power. Secondly, it costs lots to do this so they saw a way of making money by offering other extensions for sale. Finally, I also think they didnt like the way domainers play the game, so they changed the game.
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Internet group opens door to domains beyond .com
source: USA TODAY
Starting in early 2009, almost any word will be able to replace ".com" in a Web page address. That opens the door for addresses such as www.restaurants.sanfrancisco or www.books.amazon.
The decision was made Thursday by the organization that manages the technical underpinnings of the Web, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. ICANN, a non-profit based in Marina del Rey, Calif., wants "to increase competition and choice," CEO Paul Twomey says.
The news is likely to spark a scramble for desirable addresses, called top-level domains. It could force businesses to register thousands of domains to protect their brands. And it could make some Web pages easier โ and some harder โ to find.
"It is an amazing development," says Tom Lowenhaupt, who heads Connecting.nyc, a New York City community group pushing for a ".nyc" domain.
Details are still in the works. But ICANN says that registrants applying for a top-level domain must prove that they have the ability to manage the sizable technical task of running it, or have hired someone who does.
They'll also have to pay up. Fees haven't been set but could start around $100,000. Popular domains could be auctioned, Twomey says.
Not all words qualify. An application can be thrown out if it conflicts with a trademark (".pepsi"), is too similar to an existing domain (".kom"), is a geopolitical term claimed by a government or other group (".china"), or is a threat to morality or public order.
ICANN previously came under criticism when it considered adding a ".xxx" domain. Twomey says his group doesn't regulate morality and will send all potentially problematic applications to a yet-to-be-determined independent review board.
The Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy group that argued against ".xxx," says that may not be enough. "The main issue is whether โฆ these new domain addresses will make it harder for filters (that block pornography or other undesirable sites) to work," says Chris Gacek, a senior fellow.
Confusion may be another downside. Although some companies, including eBay, argued for additional domains, others may be unhappy to learn that they "have to buy all the variants on their name in order to protect their trademarks," says Gordon Cook, author of trade newsletter The Cook Report on Internet.
And Web surfers may not know where to go to find information. "We don't need anymore top-level domains," Cook says.
Big winners are companies that sell domain names, such as Network Solutions and GoDaddy.com, Cook says. They could reap huge profits from new applications. Cook argues that ICANN is too closely aligned with their interests, but Twomey says his group is just fulfilling a pledge to give website owners more options.
Avi Silberschatz, chair of the computer science department at Yale University, says few people type in domain names anymore. Instead, they use search engines, he says. " 'Yale.edu' โฆ 'whitehouse.gov' โฆ who remembers it?" he says. "You just go to Google."
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That means you're going to see domains like fu*k.sh*t, sh*t.sh*t, sh*t.fu*k, whatisthissh*t.fu*k, and so forth.
source: USA TODAY
Starting in early 2009, almost any word will be able to replace ".com" in a Web page address. That opens the door for addresses such as www.restaurants.sanfrancisco or www.books.amazon.
The decision was made Thursday by the organization that manages the technical underpinnings of the Web, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. ICANN, a non-profit based in Marina del Rey, Calif., wants "to increase competition and choice," CEO Paul Twomey says.
The news is likely to spark a scramble for desirable addresses, called top-level domains. It could force businesses to register thousands of domains to protect their brands. And it could make some Web pages easier โ and some harder โ to find.
"It is an amazing development," says Tom Lowenhaupt, who heads Connecting.nyc, a New York City community group pushing for a ".nyc" domain.
Details are still in the works. But ICANN says that registrants applying for a top-level domain must prove that they have the ability to manage the sizable technical task of running it, or have hired someone who does.
They'll also have to pay up. Fees haven't been set but could start around $100,000. Popular domains could be auctioned, Twomey says.
Not all words qualify. An application can be thrown out if it conflicts with a trademark (".pepsi"), is too similar to an existing domain (".kom"), is a geopolitical term claimed by a government or other group (".china"), or is a threat to morality or public order.
ICANN previously came under criticism when it considered adding a ".xxx" domain. Twomey says his group doesn't regulate morality and will send all potentially problematic applications to a yet-to-be-determined independent review board.
The Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy group that argued against ".xxx," says that may not be enough. "The main issue is whether โฆ these new domain addresses will make it harder for filters (that block pornography or other undesirable sites) to work," says Chris Gacek, a senior fellow.
Confusion may be another downside. Although some companies, including eBay, argued for additional domains, others may be unhappy to learn that they "have to buy all the variants on their name in order to protect their trademarks," says Gordon Cook, author of trade newsletter The Cook Report on Internet.
And Web surfers may not know where to go to find information. "We don't need anymore top-level domains," Cook says.
Big winners are companies that sell domain names, such as Network Solutions and GoDaddy.com, Cook says. They could reap huge profits from new applications. Cook argues that ICANN is too closely aligned with their interests, but Twomey says his group is just fulfilling a pledge to give website owners more options.
Avi Silberschatz, chair of the computer science department at Yale University, says few people type in domain names anymore. Instead, they use search engines, he says. " 'Yale.edu' โฆ 'whitehouse.gov' โฆ who remembers it?" he says. "You just go to Google."
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That means you're going to see domains like fu*k.sh*t, sh*t.sh*t, sh*t.fu*k, whatisthissh*t.fu*k, and so forth.
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Hi, many thanks for posting, but there is a discussion going on this subject in this forum in this thread here:
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?p=2862725#post2862725
http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?p=2862725#post2862725
Hurley4540
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At first I was going to say "This is dumb, everyone will be regging there own .dot" but then I saw they will be able 100k each...in that case, if you can afford it, go ahead!
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100,000$ is the catch
so only large firms can afford to register their own extension
so only large firms can afford to register their own extension
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But if is is a popular term then the large firm will have to go into auction against other large firms, $100,000 will just be the opening bid, could end up going for millions upon millions of dollars for a domain name extension multiple firms wantdarkangel1988 said:
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Another thread on what is been already discussed now in two other threads on the same board.
When is the last time any new ext. has hurt .com?
While this may kill niche exts like .mobi and .biz (or are they rip already) which are still searching for their place, and maybe even hurt .net, it can only serve to strengthen .com as consumer get frustrated and confused and turn to the old standard.
If I want a hotel, am I going to hotels.com, or am I going to go to fool around and try marriott.hotels. What if I don't know what hotel I want? Or how many times am I going to come up empty trying that?
While this may kill niche exts like .mobi and .biz (or are they rip already) which are still searching for their place, and maybe even hurt .net, it can only serve to strengthen .com as consumer get frustrated and confused and turn to the old standard.
If I want a hotel, am I going to hotels.com, or am I going to go to fool around and try marriott.hotels. What if I don't know what hotel I want? Or how many times am I going to come up empty trying that?
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Well the way I think now is I only want .com, If I had interest in other extensions I don't now, I only want .com, as it will be the most desired, everything else will be a blur IMO, people always want the best, it is a pride thing, so its .com or .com all other choices will all be pretty much on the same level IMO, now double thinking some money I put into ordering .me, I was probably way better of getting even more .comjacal1 said:
Agreeed. I guess the one concern I have as an 80% .com owner is that if major players get caught up in bidding for these new tlds we may see a decrease in high-end generic .com sales. It's not that the names won't be worth it (and maybe worth more after the dust settles), but the buyers may get distracted.raredn.com said:
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.com is like a classic car it'll always be something unique that everyone wants
can you imagine domains like amazon.amazon or ebay.ebay
my guess is after 5 years from now we will drop all the extension and endup with just words.
can you imagine domains like amazon.amazon or ebay.ebay
my guess is after 5 years from now we will drop all the extension and endup with just words.
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This is going to be a mess!
I personally think this is great! It's opening the doors to a lot of great ideas in regards to team work. $100,000 isn't a lot of money if your on a team of 50-200 people who all have a share of an extension!
I see a lot of people in the domain industry creating their own teams to buy and own an extension! Imagine the possibilities with this. Owning your own extension with others, your team being the only people who own it! I see a lot of people making money with this!
Why is everyone in fear mode? This is going to be great!
then again...I'm not thinking about bidding wars and how some extensions will go for millions... argh!
I see a lot of people in the domain industry creating their own teams to buy and own an extension! Imagine the possibilities with this. Owning your own extension with others, your team being the only people who own it! I see a lot of people making money with this!
Why is everyone in fear mode? This is going to be great!
then again...I'm not thinking about bidding wars and how some extensions will go for millions... argh!
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Hurley4540
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The 'create your own tld'
I know there are many threads, just giving my 2 cents.
At first, I thought it was a dumb idea, however after being sarcastic on another thread and made a comment, I think this could be a good idea.
Take for example the many possibilities of .CITY's...like:
.boston
Now this could be very good because there can be:
vist.boston
food.boston
drinks.boston
airport.boston
clubs.boston
ETC, this could really help narrow and make searches easier....this could make the 100k(That is what the rumored price is, not millions, not 10k!) price for your own tld a reasonable one.
HOWEVER, I only see potential in .CITY's ... not some other ones that could come of this. IMO .citys and a few others will only be decently popular.
I know there are many threads, just giving my 2 cents.
At first, I thought it was a dumb idea, however after being sarcastic on another thread and made a comment, I think this could be a good idea.
Take for example the many possibilities of .CITY's...like:
.boston
Now this could be very good because there can be:
vist.boston
food.boston
drinks.boston
airport.boston
clubs.boston
ETC, this could really help narrow and make searches easier....this could make the 100k(That is what the rumored price is, not millions, not 10k!) price for your own tld a reasonable one.
HOWEVER, I only see potential in .CITY's ... not some other ones that could come of this. IMO .citys and a few others will only be decently popular.
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