domain SUITSFOR.MEN (AN NGTLD THAT WORKS)

[slader23]

Non-Premium Renewals.

I currently own it until 2023, with the added coupons I've paid about $6.50 for 6 years of ownership and I'll be maxing it out for the full 10 years after I complete a quick $4 sale of one of my .coms, just waiting for the paypal payment.

The best .com domain for suits other than suit.com or suits.com is 100% MensSuits.com(There is no NGTLD equivalent). I am trying to create price competition for my name as the 4th best due to the fact that it is the emd competitor of the .com SuitsForMen.com.

I have the advantage of locked in renewals for the next 10 years for the domain and renewal at a price below .COM renewal fees.

Here is the Important Data

Source: Domain Index

For an EndUser this could be a great name for an online store selling Men's suits. .Men is imho a pretty weak ngtld but this is probably one of the best uses of the tld on the entire internet. Any end user buying into the name now would be saving years of renewal fees ( which rocket back up soon) and be able to focus mainly on marketing and advertising the name as the .com doesn't even rank for its own keyword (original owner is end user), just check out the domain now www.suitsformen.com, not much done at all in terms of development.

Since I'll be locking this up for a few years I'm interesting in leaving this thread open and seeing how peoples opinions vary over the years. It'll be fun.

 

[Brands.International]

I like the name, but what I really love is the pricing. To get perfect domain name and have it locked for 10 years with total costs of $10 is very clever move imo.

It can be a great brand for any company in that niche, and you have now 10 years to maximize your profit. If you do not sell it in 10 years (and I am sure you will sell it with huge profit) worst case is you can loose 10 dollars.

I think this is really no-brainer here

 

[TC27]

I like the name, but what I really love is the pricing. To get perfect domain name and have it locked for 10 years with total costs of $10 is very clever move imo.

It can be a great brand for any company in that niche, and you have now 10 years to maximize your profit. If you do not sell it in 10 years (and I am sure you will sell it with huge profit) worst case is you can loose 10 dollars.

I think this is really no-brainer here

I agree, for the nominal cost the upside could be huge. Although, I wonder if Suits.Men would be better?

 

[slader23]

I agree, for the nominal cost the upside could be huge. Although, I wonder if Suits.Men would be better?

Maybe, its not an emd though Mens.Suits would be the right name but there is no .Suits tld, and probably won't be due because it would be so limited.

 

[TC27]

Maybe, its not an emd though Mens.Suits would be the right name but there is no .Suits tld, and probably won't be due because it would be so limited.

Red.Suit
Blue.Suit
Green.Suit
Navy.Suit

Well that's a start...

 

[slader23]

Red.Suit
Blue.Suit
Green.Suit
Navy.Suit

Well that's a start...

All of those can be bought at SuitsFor.Men

 

[.NJ]

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios....

But let's get to the reality of things here.

1. The .men extension only has 102,000 registrations.

2. 49,000 of those registrations are parked.

We need to expect a huge drop ratio over the next year time frame.

Numbers like these cannot sustain a thriving business model.

Numbers don't lie....

As for appraisal, I'm going to say it's worth what you paid for it.

 

[slader23]

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios....

But let's get to the reality of things here.

1. The .men extension only has 102,000 registrations.

2. 49,000 of those registrations are parked.

We need to expect a huge drop ratio over the next year time frame.

Numbers like these cannot sustain a thriving business model.

Numbers don't lie....

I won't "expect" anything until the next round of numbers are out. Also its just one extension out of a basket, owned by Famous Four Media so its not like its going anywhere.

 

[slader23]

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios....

But let's get to the reality of things here.

1. The .men extension only has 102,000 registrations.

2. 49,000 of those registrations are parked.

We need to expect a huge drop ratio over the next year time frame.

Numbers like these cannot sustain a thriving business model.

Numbers don't lie....

As for appraisal, I'm going to say it's worth what you paid for it.

1. 47% percent of names are parked in comparison to almost 70% for all ngtlds.

2. .Men has more registrations than .shop, .cloud, .work, .store, .news, .live and has a lower percentage of parked domains than every one of the extensions I just listed.

3. Its been live for less than 2 years, 100k+ registrations after that long is a lot better than the majority of ngtlds out there, in fact its in the top 30 ngtlds on the internet.

I don't appreciate guys that like to throw numbers out there trying to skew an analysis to cater to their own opinion, if your going to provide analysis with data make sure you provided a clear picture otherwise what you say will be viewed as misleading...but then again "I don't want to piss on anyones cheerios", clearly you did and I've just given you in return the reality of your own statement. Your intention was to "Piss on" my name and not provide a fair appraisal. Thanks for your opinion.

 

[.NJ]

Your intention was to "Piss on" my name and not provide a fair appraisal. Thanks for your opinion.

I did give you an appraisal....

It's worth what you paid for it.

Reg-fee.

Put it on any auction platform with a high reserve to protect your asset.

This will give you a very clear indication of its current value.

You may even like my reg-fee appraisal after that.

I'm not saying these things to downgrade you or the domain.

I'm saying these things from experience and past mistakes I made and learned from.

Kevin

 

[slader23]

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios....

But let's get to the reality of things here.

1. The .men extension only has 102,000 registrations.

2. 49,000 of those registrations are parked.

We need to expect a huge drop ratio over the next year time frame.

Numbers like these cannot sustain a thriving business model.

Numbers don't lie....

As for appraisal, I'm going to say it's worth what you paid for it.

Here is an image to discredit your point. The majority of registrations have occurred within the past year, this extension isn't even two years old and your trying to say that "Numbers don't lie". Well, guess what there have been over 75k registrations in just the past 2 months, which is massive growth for the tld, with the majority of people like locking in their investments long term. There has been 2.5k registrations in the past week and this extension has quickly become one of the better run ngtlds with such a cheap renewal. This is the kind of pricing structure that KEEPS businesses running and its been an excellent move by Famous Four Media.

 

[slader23]

I did give you an appraisal....

It's worth what you paid for it.

Reg-fee.

Put it on any auction platform with a high reserve to protect your asset.

This will give you a very clear indication of its current value.

You may even like my reg-fee appraisal after that.

I'm not saying these things to downgrade you or the domain.

I'm saying these things from experience and past mistakes I made and learned from.

Kevin

Its not worth my time. I won't be putting this on any auction platforms because, that is not the best mechanism to sell ngtlds at this time. When we reach 2020, I might give an auction a second thought, but even that is unlikely.

 

[.NJ]

Here is an image to discredit your point. The majority of registrations have occurred within the past year, this extension isn't even two years old and your trying to say that "Numbers don't lie". Well, guess what there have been over 75k registrations in just the past 2 months, which is massive growth for the tld, with the majority of people like locking in their investments long term. There has been 2.5k registrations in the past week and this extension has quickly become one of the better run ngtlds with such a cheap renewal. This is the kind of pricing structure that KEEPS businesses running and its been an excellent move by Famous Four Media.

Yes the extension is doing great....

One single recorded sale. Yes one sale.

102,000 registrations.
1 sale.

So let's get back to appraising the name.

 

[slader23]

I don't want to piss in anyone's cheerios....

But let's get to the reality of things here.

1. The .men extension only has 102,000 registrations.

2. 49,000 of those registrations are parked.

We need to expect a huge drop ratio over the next year time frame.

Numbers like these cannot sustain a thriving business model.

Numbers don't lie....

As for appraisal, I'm going to say it's worth what you paid for it.

I'd also like to point out that there are only
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Yes the extension is doing great....

One single recorded sale. Yes one sale.

102,000 registrations.
1 sale.

So let's get back to appraising the name.

Exactly. One Sale, so whats the point of listing it on auction when neither the ngtld market nor the tld have reached an acceptable stage in development for me to do so? Your also making the wrong assumption by assuming that one sale accounts for all aftermarket transactions for the tld, discounting private sales that you are not privy too. Its time you rethink your approach to ngtlds, the market does not operate in the same manner as legacy tlds. I appreciate your appraisal, but everything else you've said has been hogwash.

 

[Casey L]

Not to be crass but this domain was a waste, even at $1 per year

 

[slader23]

Not to be crass but this domain was a waste, even at $1 per year

Thanks for your opinion.

 

[bmugford]

Your also making the wrong assumption by assuming that one sale accounts for all aftermarket transactions for the tld, discounting private sales that you are not privy too.

The same can be said with any extensions. Far more .COM sell than are actually reported.

There is no reason to believe that .MEN sales are disproportionately higher than other extensions that are not reported. The bottom line is low reported sales = low overall sales.

A reg fee appraisal in the current market is basically what it is worth.
In the future who knows...

Brad

 

[slader23]

The same can be said with any extensions. Far more .COM sell than are actually reported.

There is no reason to believe that .MEN sales are disproportionately higher than other extensions that are not reported. The bottom line is low reported sales = low overall sales.

That shows the current demand. A reg fee appraisal in the current market is basically what it is worth.
In the future who knows...

Brad

Its wrong to assume things you cannot quantify. For example there are 12 sales listed for .work but I know of a bunch more because of info from other ngtld domainers. If anything your only getting a very limited view of aftermarket pricing because the one name that did sell isn't even premium.

Anways I'll keep this thread going for as long as possible, it will be interesting to see how peoples views change with the markets. I appreciate all appraisals thanks to everyone especially you @bmugford for providing your opinions.

 

[ecalc]

suitsfor.men

wholesale: $x
retail: $x

strike 1 - TLD is not com or cctld. There is no evidence of market demand for .men domains. Namebio show one reported sale, indoset.men (210 USD, 2016-03-29, uniregistry). If there is any appreciable underground sales activity it will bubble up in public reports.

strike 2 - SLD is more than one word. Sales data shows that two or more words is a hurdle for .com and a brick wall for all other tlds.

strike 3 - Branding efforts by publishers like kars4kids have raised an element of spelling confusion about 4/for in domain names. Prepositions in general are domain dead weight.

strike 4 - Weak market for clothing domains with phrases ‘suits for’ or ‘for men’. Recent public sales include hatsformen.com (335 USD, 2015-02-06, godaddy) and socksformen.com (215 USD, 2015-03-13, godaddy). Exclude ‘for’: threepiecesuits.com (101 USD, 2016-01-28, namejet), leathersuits.com (211 USD, 2015-11-16, namejet) and woolsuits.com (361 USD, 2014-11-01, godaddy). Publishers/investors can buy practical 2+ keyword .coms for low $xxx or hand reg available names such as sportcoatsformen.com, mensbusinesssuits.com, tuxedosformen.com, etc for $x. The .men enthusiast can hand reg tuxedosfor.men, pantsfor.men, shirtsfor.men, etc for $0.69 each.

This is not baseball. Two strikes and you’re out. Good luck!

 

[slader23]

suitsfor.men

wholesale: $x
retail: $x

strike 1 - TLD is not com or cctld. There is no evidence of market demand for .men domains. Namebio show one reported sale, indoset.men (210 USD, 2016-03-29, uniregistry). If there is any appreciable underground sales activity it will bubble up in public reports.

strike 2 - SLD is more than one word. Sales data shows that two or more words is a hurdle for .com and a brick wall for all other tlds.

strike 3 - Branding efforts by publishers like kars4kids have raised an element of spelling confusion about 4/for in domain names. Prepositions in general are domain dead weight.

strike 4 - Weak market for clothing domains with phrases ‘suits for’ or ‘for men’. Recent public sales include hatsformen.com (335 USD, 2015-02-06, godaddy) and socksformen.com (215 USD, 2015-03-13, godaddy). Exclude ‘for’: threepiecesuits.com (101 USD, 2016-01-28, namejet), leathersuits.com (211 USD, 2015-11-16, namejet) and woolsuits.com (361 USD, 2014-11-01, godaddy). Publishers/investors can buy practical 2+ keyword .coms for low $xxx or hand reg available names such as sportcoatsformen.com, mensbusinesssuits.com, tuxedosformen.com, etc for $x. The .men enthusiast can hand reg tuxedosfor.men, pantsfor.men, shirtsfor.men, etc for $0.69 each.

This is not baseball. Two strikes and you’re out. Good luck!

Thanks for your opinion. None of those were previously held or dropped premiums by the registry and quite francly pantsfor.men, shirtsfor.men and tuxedosfor.men are all low level emds for this tld.
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Weak Market for "for men"? I don't thinks so. All the sales you have mentioned are emds that are not within the top 5 names in that niche

SuitsForMen
ShoesForMen
WatchesForMen
ClothesForMen

All of these have yet to sell in the aftermarket, and all would likely go for high 5 to low 6 figures. So your analysis of the market does not take into account the fact that the top names in the niche, which are relative to my name have not sold, and their value to an end user because that would be a better comparison. Regardless I appreciate your opinion, this isn't a game to me, You may think I've struck out, but I think I view things with a much further outlook than you legacy domainers. I can sit on this name for 5 years and still be in my 20's, so lets see what happens. I'm in no need to sell or auction this name until at least 2021, I've got other emd ngtlds like Fishing.Tools that will go up for sale in 2020. This isn't baseball, this is chess, and I'm thinking several years ahead.

 

[gilescoley]

Don't fall for the ngtld domainer hype, it will end up costing you money in wasted renewals.

Most companies don't even know they exist, so unless you plan on developing it, I would let this one go.

1 reported .men sale

indoset.men 210 USD 2016-03-29 Uniregistry

Good luck in whatever you decide