SubDomain on my Domain name

[DotCom9]

Guys,

I got a message from a person asking me if I do any subdomains on one of my domain names. Can anyone tell me what this exactly means and how I should proceed.

Thx.

 

[Coopey]

If your domain is
yourdomain.com
then they want you to create
theirsubdomain.yourdomain.com
for their use, where somebody entering the subdomain would go to the subdomain site, rather than the main www site
(look at www.google.com and maps.google.com - same domain, but different subdomains go to different sites).

How you go about this may depend on where said domain is registered. In many registrars it's as easy as changing one record on the domain management screen, some it's very tricky and you may need to pay extra...

 

[DotCom9]

If your domain is
yourdomain.com
then they want you to create
theirsubdomain.yourdomain.com
for their use, where somebody entering the subdomain would go to the subdomain site, rather than the main www site
(look at www.google.com and maps.google.com - same domain, but different subdomains go to different sites).

How you go about this may depend on where said domain is registered. In many registrars it's as easy as changing one record on the domain management screen, some it's very tricky and you may need to pay extra...

Hi,

Thx for the quick reply.. The domain name the person wants to me to subdomain is DogSale.us and I have registered the name with GoDaddy. Just wondering ... If I Can gain anything outta it? Initially the person asked me if I would sell the name.. I said if I get a good offer I will.. then he asked abt this subdomain thing. What should I do?

Comments Appreciated.

Thx.

 

[TheBaldOne]

I think you should let them know the domain is for sale at the right price. The number of useful sub-domains that would be 'rented' are very small for this domain.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck

 

[DotCom9]

I think you should let them know the domain is for sale at the right price. The number of useful sub-domains that would be 'rented' are very small for this domain.

Just my 2 cents.

Good luck

Hi,

Do U mean to say.. Once i Rent the name to someone for their purpose.. I cannot cancel it at any time and sell it to someone else?

And I can rent it to N number of people?

And this guy to whom I rent it to.. In turn pays me something like annually?

Thx.

 

[floatingworld]

Hi,

Do U mean to say.. Once i Rent the name to someone for their purpose.. I cannot cancel it at any time and sell it to someone else?

And I can rent it to N number of people?

And this guy to whom I rent it to.. In turn pays me something like annually?

Thx.

If you contract to rent out for a year then you cannot sell within that period unless the new buyer wants to formally take over your obligations...it is like selling a house with a sitting tenant. I suggest you just hold out for an outright domain sale.

 

[DotCom9]

If you contract to rent out for a year then you cannot sell within that period unless the new buyer wants to formally take over your obligations...it is like selling a house with a sitting tenant. I suggest you just hold out for an outright domain sale.

Hi.. There are few things in my mind which I am writing down.

If I contract the name for an year to this person.. It is just for one year and after that I can say Yes or a No to sub domain right then

1). The domain name becomes an year old and as older domain names have good value.. maybe this will also have it.And maybe I can sell it for a much higher price?

2). Maybe I will get some traffic to my name while people keep browsing the sub domain name?

3). How much do these people usually pay if we rent out the name to them?

4). Maybe this guy likes the name but not sure of the traffic and wants to try it for an year and see??


Thx.

Hi.. There are few things in my mind which I am writing down.

If I contract the name for an year to this person.. It is just for one year and after that I can say Yes or a No to sub domain right then

1). The domain name becomes an year old and as older domain names have good value.. maybe this will also have it.And maybe I can sell it for a much higher price?

2). Maybe I will get some traffic to my name while people keep browsing the sub domain name?

3). How much do these people usually pay if we rent out the name to them?

4). Maybe this guy likes the name but not sure of the traffic and wants to try it for an year and see??


Thx.

Guys anyone????

 

[Name Trader]

Save yourself the hassle and sell him the domain. It's probably worth <$100 anyway. So whatever you get, you make a profit and move on to your next investment.

 

[Spade]

Save yourself the hassle and sell him the domain. It's probably worth <$100 anyway. So whatever you get, you make a profit and move on to your next investment.

Agreed. to create a subdomain would be a little silly, and more of a hastle than im sure its worth.

Sell the name, work it out.

Justin

 

[cache]

strange, if someone wanted to rent, why not to rent the domain and do
the subdomain later? Can this be some kind of scam?

Guys,

I got a message from a person asking me if I do any subdomains on one of my domain names. Can anyone tell me what this exactly means and how I should proceed.

Thx.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Sell the domain - renting subdomains on a 3 letter .com or solid dictionary word could make sense, but renting on "DogSale.us"? The user is probably unable to pay anything or they could have registered an available name that is better suited and wouldn't have to deal with subdomains...
Bizarre.
-Allan

 

[diegoid]

Agreed. to create a subdomain would be a little silly, and more of a hastle than im sure its worth.

Sell the name, work it out.

Justin

Agree with Justin. Besides, subdomains are generally used by
black hat seo guys so it could also hurt your domain rank.

Good Luck.

 

[scandiman]

I think you should let them know the domain is for sale at the right price. The number of useful sub-domains that would be 'rented' are very small for this domain.

If developed, there could be a subdomain for each AKC breed which could add up to a lot of subdomains. Regardless, the bigger issue to me is if a renter abuses the subdomain, using it for bad SEO and spam, can the primary domain end up being banned from Google and black listed for e-mail? Just like in real estate, the tenant may pay the rent but you could be left with a trashed house when they leave with little or no recourse to recover your damages. Maybe I'm paranoid, but personally I wouldn't enter into this kind of arrangement without having some way to monitor the activities on the subdomain.

 

[DotCom9]

Guys,

Thx a lot for all the replies... Does anybody actually know if we can monitor the activities on sub domains we give out for rent? and how much actually do they pay rent for each year? Is it less than the registration Fee usually??

Thx.

 

[lzy]

Agree with Justin. Besides, subdomains are generally used by
black hat seo guys so it could also hurt your domain rank.

Subdomains will really hurt the domain rank? Where did you hear that from? :o

Guys,

Thx a lot for all the replies... Does anybody actually know if we can monitor the activities on sub domains we give out for rent? and how much actually do they pay rent for each year? Is it less than the registration Fee usually??

Thx.

How much they pay is determined by you, if you would like to charge them 100/year go right ahead. :D

And all his files will be residing in your account so you can go thro them yourself? :o

 

[TheBaldOne]

Financially it is the norm for a 'leased domain name' to pay between 25% - 35% p.a. of the agreed value of a domain. 'Normally' this kind of arrangement occurs either where a potential buyer is not sure of the absolute value of a domain and will 'taste' the domain for a period of time (normally 3/6/12 months), or where the buyer has to put in place the finances to purchase the domain outright.

Sub-domains are usually 'rented' for a much lower figure, this is so variable that the only good guesstimate would be between 1% - 15% of domain value (but that is a real stab in the dark). Sub-domain rentals are rare because of the costs of contracts and the problems of shackling the developer of the domain whilst the risks run by the owner are also immense. Most renters would insist that the domain is registered for at least the period of the 'lease'.

My advice (for what it is worth) is this kind of arrangement is only really fit for the big boys and a domain valued as at least 6 figures ($100,000+). Find a sales price the purchaser will pay and you are happy to sell at, that is what I would do in this situation.

All the best.

 

[shockie]

Subdomains will really hurt the domain rank? Where did you hear that from? :o

And all his files will be residing in your account so you can go thro them yourself? :o

1) misuse of the subdomain will hurt domain rank.
2) the subdomain can simply redirect, so no "go thro them" - whatever that means.

 

[lzy]

As look through their files himself to moniter them. Blah.

 

[Fundraiser]

Agree with Justin. Besides, subdomains are generally used by
black hat seo guys so it could also hurt your domain rank.

Good Luck.

sub domains work just fine and in fact can be better for ranking as using a sub domain can provide for perfect parsing of a highly searched phrase into the individual keywords (for example small.business.us or car.loans.pro).

On a related note, anyone know of a script that would work with cpanel to create a sub domain, record registrant details and allow for payment?

Thanks.

 

[Gerrit]

Interesting question. A good domain (not sure if there's many left though) can have a great value in selling subdomains (or 'renting' them). Look at CentralNIC who are often criticised but meanwhile make a large profit by selling subdomains of eu.com, us.com, de.com, etc

I have considered this in the past but a few things make me hesitate:
- if you sell or rent subdomains with renewals, I guess you need to have a registered business before you can start any such trade?
- especially if you allow the subdomain to be moved to someone's own DNS, there is little control over what the person is using it for. Imagine someone buys freemusic.domain.com and then uses it to offer illegal MP3 downloads, can the owner of the domain itself be co-responsible or only he who rents the subdomain? I guess a simple disclaimer can prevent a lot of hassle but still...
- is there still a market for it? I guess that if you count renewal fees of the domain + setting up an easy registration system , that to make it profitable you need to sell a fair amount of subdomains, while only few will pay an amount for it that is close to the price of an actual real domain. So I doubt if there's still names available whose subdomains can make it truly profitable.