discuss Squadhelp - Good idea?

[WebAddy.co]

So our domains are currently listed on :

Afternic (BIN)
Own custom landing pages (Make an offer with Offers in the region of)
Sedo (MO)
Dan.com (MO)
Godaddy (MO)
DomainAgents (MO)
SquadHelp (MO)

So far, no sales for a month and a half. But seems like a number of Domainers feeling that pinch. My question for today friends is as follows, how do people feel about SquadHelp.com?

I recently thought - Okay - Let's give them a whirl. They have two listing options :

1. Standard listing - allowing you to list the domains on their market place, paying a 7.5% commission, and no exclusivity requirements.
2. Premium Listing - They apparently market these a lot more externally, asking for a 35% -> 15% commission depending on domain price. They do some extra bits and bobs to the domains to make them stand out better for people to buy (incl. Logos etc). You can choose a premium listing with exclusivity, meaning you have to sell all the domains through SH, or you can pay a coin ($1) to list with semi-exclusive - basically meaning that you cannot list anywhere other than Afternic.

Because of my other listing arrangements, I thought - well - I will list as standard as they are wanting to sell domains so may not get the external marketing (although you can upgrade for a fee for SOME of this) I would give them a whirl.

So merrily I go and put on close on 200 domains as a test case, non-exclusive, standard listing MO. I then go to search the marketplace to see what my domains look like - and low and behold - none of them shows up. I have verified them, even filled in a little bit of detail to help the squad help systems find the domains. Still nothing.

I get hold of them to discuss - and they say - or your domains won't show in the market place. I'm like "Gulp!" why not? Because they are standard listings they say. They then direct me to a link for a market place that shows the standard listings too, but guess what fellow patrons of the virtual real-estate world - this market place link doesn't seem to show up (even searching directly for it) on any of the page links in the NAV bar. Meaning that people actually don't directly get the ability to search standard domains.

I asked if the enhanced exposure would put them on the "standard" marketplace that has a link on the site, I was told no - that's only for premium domains.

So I am like - how do people find the standard domains - to which I got this response from the lady on chat "As mentioned earlier, the all domains link will be promoted to prospects via retargeting ads as well as popups - thus, prospects can still see standard domains." - So basically people cannot search directly for your keywords, just if the system thinks it should make a last-ditch attempt to sell the "standard stuff".

So I thought - let's test this. I then found a premium domain that was VERY close to one of mine. I went onto the landing page for it and low and behold - my Standard domain is nowhere to be found - no retargeting - no additional info - nothing.

If they were negotiable on their premium listings I may upgrade, even if it cost me money. I want my domains to have the best chance across many marketplaces. I cannot afford to have $500k worth of domains in one marketplace. The sticking points for me are:

1. I do not want restrictive exclusive relationships. I want the option to sell wherever I like.
2. I am happy for commissions to be higher on the basis that they do some marketing leg-work. But they expect the higher commissions with the exclusivity.
3. Only 10% of the accepted premium domains can be MO - otherwise they have to be BIN. This restricts things significantly.

To top it all off - I use my own landing pages - but when clicking on the domain when I could search for it in the standard unknown / cant be found marketplace, the landing page brought up a 404 error. Fun! Every barrier to actually selling anything through SH.

Anyways, that's my little rant. Would love to hear from others - and/or perhaps even from SquadHelp themselves? So far - chatting to them online has only caused confusion and frustration.

 

[tiletalk]

@tiletalk Wasn't the case with me. My single domain was rejected 5 days ago.

Don’t know then. Did you check your spam?

can you pm me your domain name? I had 4 acceptance back to back tonight on SH. 3 pre-approved 1 manual approval. No idea how but seem to be lucky af tonight...

 

[JanO]

@tiletalk Yes, checked spam. No need to get mine approved; it was rejected and I've closed my account. Domain was V R T U A L I Z E .com.

Congratulations on getting your domains approved, hope they sell well.

 

[tiletalk]

@tiletalk Yes, checked spam. No need to get mine approved; it was rejected and I've closed my account. Domain was V R T U A L I Z E .com.

Congratulations on getting your domains approved, hope they sell well.

I would do some more reading / research on brandables. Tgere is lots of vids from SH on youtube. I also made same mistakes as you when started but i am learning daily

 

[WebAddy.co]

So the saga of SH continues - I tested their premium submission service. Added over 40 domains - most of which would have been accepted at other brandable marketplaces (I know this as I checked). Some of them were single-word (dictionary) .coms - so some value in that. And the outcome - all of them rejected.

I look through the marketplace, as I am sure loads of you have - and notice the absolute rubbish that there is on there which has been accepted. Perhaps these domains are the ones that are dreamed up by someone and submitted to SH for registration etc (in which case they get more than their pound of flesh).

Anyways, I really do think they need some stiff competition. Wake them up a little bit.

I tried to get someone who I could speak to - and I was told that all comments go through the support system. Its probably one person sitting behind a computer with a drink (or seven) and depending on where they are on the drunk scale they press the approve or reject button.

 

[Tom_Collins]

So the saga of SH continues - I tested their premium submission service. Added over 40 domains - most of which would have been accepted at other brandable marketplaces (I know this as I checked). Some of them were single-word (dictionary) .coms - so some value in that. And the outcome - all of them rejected.

I look through the marketplace, as I am sure loads of you have - and notice the absolute rubbish that there is on there which has been accepted. Perhaps these domains are the ones that are dreamed up by someone and submitted to SH for registration etc (in which case they get more than their pound of flesh).

Anyways, I really do think they need some stiff competition. Wake them up a little bit.

I tried to get someone who I could speak to - and I was told that all comments go through the support system. Its probably one person sitting behind a computer with a drink (or seven) and depending on where they are on the drunk scale they press the approve or reject button.

They rejected your domain names because they were not brandable names. Maybe come up with creative names instead of bashing a legit business.

 

[FolioTeam]

My point is people who have hundreds of premium names don't want basic listing to show up and compete in the search.

Why would anyone pay 30% for premium if all they had to do was list in Standard?

Like I said for a lot name the 30-35% is commission well worth paying. Because many of these are names that might not sell at other places.

Anyway there are many people who are selling good names in basic listing. basic is the best for good names that would sell on it's own.

I have removed some premium names from the premium and downgraded to basic because they get enough inquiries on their own.

If squadhelp had an option for full non-exclusivity, even at 30% commission, I know people who might consider that.

 

[rwy]

I've been a member of SH for one and a half month and submitted a total of 50 domains with these stats:

19 approved
7 pending
24 rejected

Also acquired 3 names from SH Wholesale, bringing the total number of premium domains to 22, with a total SH portfolio value of $200k

Names about 50/50 handreg and auctions.

So far they're getting decent amount of likes and traffic, but will take some months until things will materialize. Probably need to be an active participant in contests etc to improve traffic stats even more, from what I've understood from others.

What seems to help though is to give a weekly discount as the names gets pooled into a separate section with limited offers. Improves visibility it seems.

 

[deepak2512]

1) Is it a good idea to go for Squadhelp Standard listing instead of Sqadhelp Premium?
I say this coz for Standard listing we can list them at a host of other platforms too while for premium ones they want it to be exclusively there at SH(except for exclusions like afternic if premium portfolio >50).

2) Do most sales in SH comes from premium only or standard ones also sell?

Thanks in advance

 

[rwy]

1) Is it a good idea to go for Squadhelp Standard listing instead of Sqadhelp Premium?
I say this coz for Standard listing we can list them at a host of other platforms too while for premium ones they want it to be exclusively there at SH(except for exclusions like afternic if premium portfolio >50).

2) Do most sales in SH comes from premium only or standard ones also sell?

Thanks in advance

SH Standard doesn't give you any traffic, whatsoever. Standard listing aren't searchable through the main search box, so it's only good for submitting names to contests (after you pay $3 for marketing exposure per domain). IMHO it's worthless as an integrated part of SH, but it's OK if you want to use the standard listing as a storefront with your own domain name and use SH as a payment handler. You'd still have to drive traffic to your site though. As an example, I've listed about 50 names at standard, with 0 traffic in 30 days. Nothing came organically from SH. My 20 premium names got visited 400+ times in the same period.

 

[deepak2512]

SH Standard doesn't give you any traffic, whatsoever. Standard listing aren't searchable through the main search box, so it's only good for submitting names to contests (after you pay $3 for marketing exposure per domain). IMHO it's worthless as an integrated part of SH, but it's OK if you want to use the standard listing as a storefront with your own domain name and use SH as a payment handler. You'd still have to drive traffic to your site though. As an example, I've listed about 50 names at standard, with 0 traffic in 30 days. Nothing came organically from SH. My 20 premium names got visited 400+ times in the same period.

So if say I don't want to go for a premium listing at SH, does it makes any sense to go for SH Standard listing or Standard listing is of no use?

 

[rwy]

So if say I don't want to go for a premium listing at SH, does it makes any sense to go for SH Standard listing or Standard listing is of no use?

Depends on what you want to achieve by it? If it's to get traffic from SH users to your standard domains, then no. Standard listed domains needs traffic driven to them by your own efforts (e.g. externally). It's like a DAN listing, except that your domains are not searchable by anyone using DAN, only organic searches if you use their landing pages. Not much of a use.

 

[BuyItNows.com]

i think sh is bad idea because platform requires exclusive listing with pointing on their nameservers.

 

[NameGroove]

I've been listing with SH now... 30% commission and for a $1 "coin" I can list with Afternic and they list with SedoMLS. So I get my name in a brandable marketplace and still have it listed with the 2 majors. Along with the $1 I get a logo and a nice landing page. Not a bad deal (assuming they can sell at least some of the names). With (my) current approval rates, it's more like $2 per name - but still, not bad. Maybe as I submit more names it'll get closer to $3 - but I expect it to stop there (you've got to know the types of names they're looking for).

Has anyone had any SH sales lately?

 

[MxN]

So our domains are currently listed on :

Afternic (BIN)
Own custom landing pages (Make an offer with Offers in the region of)
Sedo (MO)
Dan.com (MO)
Godaddy (MO)
DomainAgents (MO)
SquadHelp (MO)

So far, no sales for a month and a half. But seems like a number of Domainers feeling that pinch. My question for today friends is as follows, how do people feel about SquadHelp.com?

I recently thought - Okay - Let's give them a whirl. They have two listing options :

1. Standard listing - allowing you to list the domains on their market place, paying a 7.5% commission, and no exclusivity requirements.
2. Premium Listing - They apparently market these a lot more externally, asking for a 35% -> 15% commission depending on domain price. They do some extra bits and bobs to the domains to make them stand out better for people to buy (incl. Logos etc). You can choose a premium listing with exclusivity, meaning you have to sell all the domains through SH, or you can pay a coin ($1) to list with semi-exclusive - basically meaning that you cannot list anywhere other than Afternic.

Because of my other listing arrangements, I thought - well - I will list as standard as they are wanting to sell domains so may not get the external marketing (although you can upgrade for a fee for SOME of this) I would give them a whirl.

So merrily I go and put on close on 200 domains as a test case, non-exclusive, standard listing MO. I then go to search the marketplace to see what my domains look like - and low and behold - none of them shows up. I have verified them, even filled in a little bit of detail to help the squad help systems find the domains. Still nothing.

I get hold of them to discuss - and they say - or your domains won't show in the market place. I'm like "Gulp!" why not? Because they are standard listings they say. They then direct me to a link for a market place that shows the standard listings too, but guess what fellow patrons of the virtual real-estate world - this market place link doesn't seem to show up (even searching directly for it) on any of the page links in the NAV bar. Meaning that people actually don't directly get the ability to search standard domains.

I asked if the enhanced exposure would put them on the "standard" marketplace that has a link on the site, I was told no - that's only for premium domains.

So I am like - how do people find the standard domains - to which I got this response from the lady on chat "As mentioned earlier, the all domains link will be promoted to prospects via retargeting ads as well as popups - thus, prospects can still see standard domains." - So basically people cannot search directly for your keywords, just if the system thinks it should make a last-ditch attempt to sell the "standard stuff".

So I thought - let's test this. I then found a premium domain that was VERY close to one of mine. I went onto the landing page for it and low and behold - my Standard domain is nowhere to be found - no retargeting - no additional info - nothing.

If they were negotiable on their premium listings I may upgrade, even if it cost me money. I want my domains to have the best chance across many marketplaces. I cannot afford to have $500k worth of domains in one marketplace. The sticking points for me are:

1. I do not want restrictive exclusive relationships. I want the option to sell wherever I like.
2. I am happy for commissions to be higher on the basis that they do some marketing leg-work. But they expect the higher commissions with the exclusivity.
3. Only 10% of the accepted premium domains can be MO - otherwise they have to be BIN. This restricts things significantly.

To top it all off - I use my own landing pages - but when clicking on the domain when I could search for it in the standard unknown / cant be found marketplace, the landing page brought up a 404 error. Fun! Every barrier to actually selling anything through SH.

Anyways, that's my little rant. Would love to hear from others - and/or perhaps even from SquadHelp themselves? So far - chatting to them online has only caused confusion and frustration.

I even mentioned these issues and others to Darpan and honestly I am not impressed and will have to consider something new. 8 months and yea.

 

[Future Sensors]

I even mentioned these issues and others to Darpan and honestly I am not impressed and will have to consider something new. 8 months and yea.

You're responding to a post from 2021 that was describing the old situation. Recently, the visibility of Standard listings has improved a lot.

https://helpdesk.squadhelp.com/en/a...rd-wlm-listings-discovered-in-the-marketplace

 

[NameGroove]

You're responding to a post from 2021 that was describing the old situation. Recently, the visibility of Standard listings has improved a lot.

https://helpdesk.squadhelp.com/en/a...rd-wlm-listings-discovered-in-the-marketplace

Personally I think premium listings should take priority. Significantly. You want to pay only 7.5% commission rather than 25-30% - guess what, you lose certain marketing. Why should SH be in the business of marketing names where they get less? Especially if your standard names were denied and can't get listed as Premium. Getting premium isn't all that hard... I am at a 70% approval rate. So it costs me ~$1.30 per name. If your name(s) aren't worth $1.30 to get marketing they are pretty poor if you ask me and aren't deserving of higher results in search.