question So Who has a Solution to Andrew Reberry?

[domainhacks-931385]

I doubt people are gonna sit idle for long as that vacuum sucks every good domain out of the drop, and then posts it on his site for $2000. NameJet and Snapnames are in decline as he beats them everytime. Who is next to challenge him?

 

[Asfas1000]

It's easy. You search for all the Pre-Release domains they are dropping on DropCatch.

Does this list not also include domainers' domains with Namebright ?

 

[Name Trader]

Does this list not also include domainers' domains with Namebright ?

It's possible. but every domain I checked had been for sale by HugeDomains. But my sample was not scientific. It only included the domains I was interested in. 12 domains out of 4500 is not a representative sample I actually don't know if they are auctioning drops which they don't or shouldn't own, like GoDaddy. Perhaps I'll enlighten myself by going an having a read of NameBright's ToS

 

[Name Trader]

NameBright's ToS: You get 30 days to renew at regular renewal rates. After 30 days the domain goes into Redemption Grace Period for another thirty days. They reserve the right to auction/sell the domain in this second 30 days, or RGP. But if they do. You still have a final right to renew the domain by paying the Renewal and RGP Fee of $85. They will inform you if the domain is sold, and still give you the right to renew before transferring the domain to the buyer. Which is one of the most generous RGP's I've seen.

It's still possible that they are auctioning off other people's domains. I will check a few more domains to find if anything other than HugeDomains were the owners of any of these domains. But it's also possible, because of their ToS, that they are not auctioning off customers domains.

The domains I won yesterday were transferred to my NameBright account today. That would have been 42 days after expiry. So perhaps I should read DropCatch's ToS, since any NameBright customer has up to 60 days to clawback a domain, which I'm not bound by.

 

[BrandableDomain]

I just remembered something important. Until five years ago, DropCatch was actually a private closed operation used to acquire inventory for Huge. So I searched for a report about it:

DropCatch.com enters the expired domain business with a bang

“Now the company is opening up its expired domain drop catching business at DropCatch.com. Even better, it won’t compete against the domainers that use its new system…”

“…Some people are frustrated about competing head-to-head with HugeDomains. With the private beta launch of DropCatch.com, people no longer have to compete if they pay to use the system.”

https://domainnamewire.com/2014/05/12/dropcatch-com-expired-domains/

Domain Name Wire, 2014

My opinion is we are lucky to be able to access their superior service, it is a privilege not a right, and thanks again to the Reberry brothers.

 

[Name Trader]

I just remembered something important. Until five years ago, DropCatch was actually a private closed operation used to acquire inventory for Huge. So I searched for a report about it:

DropCatch.com enters the expired domain business with a bang

“Now the company is opening up its expired domain drop catching business at DropCatch.com. Even better, it won’t compete against the domainers that use its new system…”

“…Some people are frustrated about competing head-to-head with HugeDomains. With the private beta launch of DropCatch.com, people no longer have to compete if they pay to use the system.”

https://domainnamewire.com/2014/05/12/dropcatch-com-expired-domains/

Domain Name Wire, 2014

My opinion is we are lucky to be able to access their superior service, it is a privilege not a right, and thanks again to the Reberry brothers.

It could be possible that some of these Pending Release sales are competing with GoDaddys selling other registrars deleting portfolios. But I haven't seen any evidence of that.

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

What a business.

 

[BrandableDomain]

The domains I won yesterday were transferred to my NameBright account today. That would have been 42 days after expiry. So perhaps I should read DropCatch's ToS, since any NameBright customer has up to 60 days to clawback a domain, which I'm not bound by.

Since I get confused about the different deletion stages, this was a good opportunity to learn more about it.

ExpiredDomains.NET says that once a domain reaches the third stage “Pending Delete” then the previous owner can no longer renew it. Maybe NameBright has an unusually short Auto-Renew Grace Period which can be “up to 45 days.”

This is followed by the Redemption Grace Period of 30 days. Then finally Pending Delete of 5 days.

Here is ExpiredDomain.NET’s explanation of Pending Delete Domain Status:

“After a domain expired, it will pass through a number of states, before it gets deleted. The last state before the deletion is the Pending Delete State. If the domain reaches this, the previous owner can not renew the domain and it will be deleted after exactly 5 days! …

“There is no priority system for Domains in Pending Delete. Not for the previous owner and not for the previous Registrar. Everyone can register it when it gets finally deleted and everyone has the same chances. It only depen[d]s on the system you use to automatically register those domains. Some Backorder companies have more Registrars and with that can do more Registration attempts per second/minute. These have the best chances to actually get the domain.

“Conclusion: The Domain will definitely become available and the previous owner can't do anything anymore to keep the Domain (except backorder of course).”

https://www.expireddomains.net/article/pending-delete-domain-status-15103.html

There is a great graphic explaining the deletion life cycle on ICANN’s site:

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-lifecycle-2012-02-25-en

 

[Name Trader]

The Com life cycle is typically 45+30+5=delete. At NameBright it is 30+30+15+5. So they extend the RGP by 15 days, and only charge a "reasonable" RGP Fee of $85. But the problem is, when it comes to DropCatch, most of HugeDomains domains are not at NameBright. AFAICT.

 

[Name Trader]

From my extremely limited testing of where Huge Domains domains are registered. They are at many registrars. At their 1200 Drop Catch Registrars, at NameBright, at some other Registrars they own. Quite a few of the Drop Catch registrars point to the NameBright DNS. So my guess would be that a substantial chunk of their portfolio would be managed by NameBright.

So my guess would be that pretty much all DropCatch's expiring domains would be from the HugeDomains/NameBright/DropCatch portfolios. My guess, and it's only a guess, would be that the Expiring Domains list, probably would not include dropping domains from customers. At least until, we had some clarification from DropCatch, because of the vagary of NameBright's (and the presumably the others) ToS. Which clearly says they reserve the right to auction off their customers expiring domains, after they are over 30 days expired, but will offer any sold domain to their customers before completing the sale. Which is an anathema to functioning and selling expiring domains to the public.

This about sums up my investigations into the question as to whether DropCatch expiring domains includes third party drops or not.

 

[biggie]

didn't know this thread was still going, until @Fadi H liked my post from 2013!​

my solution:
to not buy more domains, than I need to own.

imo...

 

[Dandelion]

A solution to Andrew Reberry huh?

This is so easy most won't agree but the answer is simple " Development".

If you stop chasing hundreds of thousands a names and sit down and develop even 10% of your portfolio and build a revenue stream your already ahead of andrew. Think about it while he's fighting tooth and nail to avoid renewal fees of thousands of names your cashing checks

Just my 2 cents

Blake

Your 2 cents makes no sense. As an owner of revenue generating websites, I can tell you that developing a single domain to the point where it starts generating revenue is a major project. I mean serious task that requires a lot of money, energy, and time. That's just one domain.

Advising anyone to develop 10% of his entire domain is a useless advice that leads nowhere.