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Please include the domain name and its translation.

Here's mine:

MiMadreLoca.com

Trans: My crazy mother
 
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Mayazir, get with the program. You are now considered to be a very bad person in the West if you do not believe that men can get pregnant.
 
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@tonyk2000 and @TCK. : Domains with Tildes are they even relevant?

Question is on domain company names you sell, do those words without accents available with normal ascii char set โ€œfeelโ€ acceptable, to your customers?. Does anyone complain, object? Or even use or buy accented domains? Example, Colecion... should be Coleciรณn. Alcazar should really be Alcรกzar. Etc.

As an example, Take the well known tourist trap SenorFrogs... is wrong. SeรฑorFrogs, is correct but the domain version with รฑ is not resolving and assume not registered probably since the customer base is foreigners.

Cancun is wrong technically, but Airport signages depending where donโ€™t include the tilde. As you are aware on the noun โ€œCancรบnโ€ is correct. Doubt many domains are registered or used with the accent, but never looked into it. Probably as you pointed above registered by domainers.

Certain verbs like should not and cannot be registered without the accent as the meaning is thrown out the window.

I see domains, even signage sometimes that leaves off the the tilde, for esthetic reasons I assume. The accented words agudas, graves, esdrรบjulas have accents, yet it seems in order for domains to work mostly everyone ignores this.

So technically it is incorrect spanish yet for registration convenience, I see plenty.
 
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tarjetascrรฉdito.com Creditcards.com Spanish
registered 2001
 
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LosCryptos.com

Maybe spanish. Not sure
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tarjetascrรฉdito.com Creditcards.com Spanish
registered 2001

Thanks IDN king, yeah, so forgot the tilde is an IDN. I havenโ€™t pay any attention to idnโ€™s but, Nice domain, But parked hope you sell it and make a bunch of dinero.
Are there lots of examples of popular domains in use with accents?
Did a search, first ad comes up FlexiPrestamos.com. Yet Prรฉstamos is correct.
 
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My recomendation as a native spanish speaker. Dont buy domains with tilde . All of them are useless to do online marketing.
 
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@tonyk2000 and @TCK. : Domains with Tildes are they even relevant?
A very good question.
IDNs:
As for IDNs, business owners (and the public in general) are simply unaware of IDNs. A lot of endusers, at least in South America, even if they remember the domain name, would still type it (with or without tildes but with spaces between words sometimes) in google/msn search bar (their browser default home page) and will use the first SE result to reach the website. However, I remember somebody reported right here on NP that his IDNs _do_ receive typein traffic.

Being a "perfectionist", I personally do not like domains with missed tildes. It looks like using "bookz" instead of "books" or "xcellent" instead of "excellent". Somewhat similar imho. For the reasons of fairness, however, I made a little survey (in South America), Nothing statistically significant - just a few cases when I regged domains for friends (or for my dentist / his clinic and the like), as well as asked a few small business owners "why did you select this particular domain, does it work for you, etc". I learned the following:
- domain registrants (or potential registrants) are well aware of different extensions (dot com vs country code). They usually have a preference here and can explain it.
- missed tildes are, generally speaking, acceptable from endusers point of view. A dialogue from real life: "1. Tony, please register <domain-with-missed-tilde> for me 2. Sure thing, but we have an error. No tilde. Some brainstorming and we'll find an alternative... 3. Never mind, lets register it"
 
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Juventud.com

Means Youth, in the sense of young people.

Also own it's Portuguese version, Juventude.com
 
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@tonyk2000 and @TCK. : Domains with Tildes are they even relevant?

IMO it comes down to real world usage. Do you see companies using Spanish IDN's for their websites? In Mexico I have not seen any. I am Canadian but spend a lot of time there. Who's to say that it won't change in the future.

Also look at Google results. Does G flag words without the tilde as misspelled? I just checked and it doesn't but displays results with the tilde in the description or body of the pages.

If you are going to register a domain with the tilde, you should also have the version without it as most people will type the word without the tilde.

Also it would be interesting to see which version has better SEO results, tilde or no tilde. I suspect the non-tilde one because a lot of searches are made from countries with keyboards that don't have the รฑ key (i.e. USA, Canada, UK, etc).

Hope this helps.
 
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Bachelores DOT com
 
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"1. Tony, please register <domain-with-missed-tilde> for me 2. Sure thing, but we have an error. No tilde. Some brainstorming and we'll find an alternative... 3. Never mind, lets register it"

Thanks Tony for your input. I also live down here, permanently in several places in Latin America, but not 100% fluent and a non native spanish speaker.

I assume if we get more specific, you mean those nouns, non verb words like I mentioned above where the tilde does not alter the meaning, just assists in the pronunciation.

In cases where confusion would occur, say conjugated verbs say for example like estudiรฉ, (estudiรณ past tense 3rd person versus estudio present tense first person), estudiarรฉ, estudiarรก, estudiarรญa... I doubt anyone registers plusperfectos... habrรฉ, habrรญa, habรญa... so I would imagine few if any non present tense verbs are registered? Just like in english few if any of extended length have value. Few Like in english, HaveHadRepaired or WouldHaveGone, IShallHaveReceived, etc.
 
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Do you see companies using Spanish IDN's for their websites?

Good question. Not really. Most signage is where I see URLโ€™s. I see .com and net as just about as often as CCโ€™s in the 5 countries I travel in. As you are aware It seems to me many businesses of locals like also to use English to name their company to do (2) things 1st to attract foreign tourists, 2nd to seem โ€œTrendyโ€. I saw a new business sign yesterday that had Hollywood in its name. I have seen plenty of t-shirts in over a decade here where english sayings/dichos are used that the wearer evidently had no idea what it said. Lol.

Yes the SEO question is evolving too. I just read an article about how spanish lyrical music is becoming popular in the states.
 
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Regarding usage of tildes I do recall once seeing a .TV site with one as I held the non-tilde version. Developers and end users will try to register variations of the ideal keyword to avoid paying a premium for a domain. Thus, it makes no sense to hold marginal domains.
 
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I assume if we get more specific, you mean those nouns, non verb words like I mentioned above where the tilde does not alter the meaning, just assists in the pronunciation.

Accents: รก, รฉ, รญ, รณ, รบ. Yes, they do assist in the pronunciation. They are natural part of the word in question and should not be omitted (if you ask any Spanish language teacher). In some cases, words with omitted accents may have completely different meaning - but, since in real life words form parts of a context, it is not hard to see that a writer forgot to put an accent. Which is common for quick typing like sms or messengers, especially for younger generations. Not only (missed) accents, teenagers would frequently type abbreviations that I think a google translator would not understand (but another Spanish speaking person will).

A separate letter: รฑ. It should not be considered as "n"+"~". It is a separate letter with a separate key on a spanish keyboard, and is pronounced differently.
 
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I have 2 domains that are city names with 'รฑ' in the official name but registered without the 'n'. Mainly because they are tourist destinations and target audience are foreigners. These are:

LaPenita.com (La Peรฑita)

PenaDeBernal.com (Peรฑa de Bernal)

From what I have seen, there is no trend in registering IDN characters in Spanish. Unless there is any sales data to support it, there is no value in them.
 
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In some cases, words with omitted accents may have completely different meaning

Absolutely. Like Si and Sรญ. I was lazy until recently and in informal communications like SMSโ€™s seem normal, so easy because answering a question. ClaroQueSi like Claroโ€™s slogan means 2 different things removing the tilde. I have been writing more and more and that requires the accent, but in domains I think I will stick to non IDNโ€™s.

What about registering a reflexivo? Have anyone ever sold one? I bought some expired .com one word reflexives, but not sure if they will sell. They are good category centric names, but not confident.
 
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What about registering a reflexivo? Have anyone ever sold one? I bought some expired .com one word reflexives, but not sure if they will sell. They are good category centric names, but not confident.

You have to be very selective when registering verbs in reflexivo. My rule of thumb is how does it sound. Can a gringo recall it easily. For example, I have Ubicado.com (located) which could potentially be a good real estate brandable.

Spanish domain sales are in very early stages compared to English counterparts. I'd say 10 years behind, at least.

I have not had a significant sale but I have been involved in competitive bidding on Spanish language domains.

My sales in Latin American market have been English words like "ColombiaDirectory.com", etc.

But the standard rules apply, such as, is it memorable, easy to spell, easy to recall, etc.
 
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confiable / com
controlo / com
 
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