domain seo.net

[sonix]

This is reagarding this tread that I found googling: Read it first :
http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/371178-search-engine-optimization-net.html


What a wired situation. You will probably laugh very load :yell:

What first comes to my mind is an old joke that I would like to start with.

A newspaper reporter comes to a school to write an article about some children.
What is your name, the reporter asks one of the kids. Bruce Lee the kid says.
Strange he thinks and asks another child. Bruce Lee is the answer again. He goes then to the teacher to find out what it is about and before he open his mouth the teacher is shouting "They are all lying, I'm Bruce Lee"

So to continue on this threat I would like to say I'm the owner of the domain http://seo.net

But habb was 5 minutes from actually buying it from me. And this is so weird so I just have to tell this story.

Well I got a buyer (habb) who gave me good offer for the domain. So we agreed on the conditions and they came with the car driving 500 km so we could sign the deal. They called me that they just arrived and will be at my place in few minutes. I made just last check on the google putting in keywords "seo" and "domain". The bell rings on my door and at the same time a link is popping up saying "SEO.com Domain Purchased for $5 Million". I'm opening the link and what do I see? A photo of a guy that I met almost 10 years ago at the Rapid Site dealer network in Boca Raton, Mike Mann. If I remember right he just moved to US from Germany and had started an e-commerce business. What a wired situation??? What should I do now????
I was quite shocked and you probably guessed that I couldn't sell this domain to these poor guys without making more research around the whole warped situation. Not enough that it was sold to so high price, but to a person I have met in real life????

I have read now about Mike's great success on selling domain business for MUS 65. It's really cool to know somebody who have got some success.

Another thing why I didn't sell to you habb was that your hand shacked terribly showing that you were very nervous. The rise of the offer with 2/3 of the original value means that it was a good choice. And with your offer you are not out of the game.

When now researching what the value can be I got very surprised founding these posts because I own the domain and I didn't post it.

Thanks guys for your opinion on the value of http://seo.net
I decided that I will try to sell it on sedo.com on an auction. I have not contacted sedo yet but I will do it soon. If I get something around these values you posted here I will just let it go. My mail is [email protected] if anyone wishes to contact me.

Add on to this post:
I didn't want to write a book about all details but I have to make this explanation here so you will get the whole picture, because there have been many comments on that:
The buyer said that he has to come anyway to my hometown, but when taking later it turned out that this was the only thing. When they were driving there were still details (conditions) that was discussed and added and changed to the contract and mailed back and forward. So there were no final commitment or decision on the deal. English is not my first language so please try to see the whole picture.

 

[Daniel]

Its maths not math








:hehe:

She's right ya know!

 

[sashas]

UK and we say maths

hmm...cause I'm from India and we say maths too...but right now I'm in the US, and people stare at you if you say Maths...its Math here
funny..

 

[Kate]

Cyberian,
All negotiations were not ready, the deal would be confirmed in this case, when the papers would be signed.
Until that it's always a business risk that one part can leave the negotiations.

Perhaps I am old school but to me a verbal agreement is as binding as a contract. In the end it's your credibility that is at stake.

 

[Kenny]

Thank you, Kate.
I was wondering if anyone else got it.

 

[sashas]

well, a verbal contract is an agreement, but not in the eyes of any court of law. Technically, Sonix did nothing wrong in canceling the negotiations. He had no binding contract to go through with the sale.

 

[gorilla_bob]

Sonix,

Anyone has the right to cancel. But when they do in such a manner, they must accept the consequences. For someone to have the other party drive 500k to seal a deal and then to change their mind like that? I'd be very P.O'ed if I was the buyer.

But you weighed the consequnences and made an adult decision. Now you just have to live with it. Will you ever get someone else to drive 500k mile to do a deal with you? Most likely not. Will you make a little more money from selling seo.net? Yes, that maybe true.

The rule of the kingdom is the law of the jungle. You have determined what type of animal you are and now you have to just deal with it. It is neither wrong nor right, but now we all know you choose to live by the sword.

- Bob

 

[RezaS]

I think Sonix still doesnt realize that he really messed up blowing of the deal like this... This thread only makes it more clear how childish you are and that nobody should take you serious...

I wish you the best luck with your future domainers career...

 

[maroon_cool]

Well, whats your name?

Bruce Lee?

This is reagarding this tread that I found googling: Read it first :
http://www.namepros.com/domain-appraisals/371178-search-engine-optimization-net.html


What a wired situation. You will probably laugh very load :yell:

What first comes to my mind is an old joke that I would like to start with.

A newspaper reporter comes to a school to write an article about some children.
What is your name, the reporter asks one of the kids. Bruce Lee the kid says.
Strange he thinks and asks another child. Bruce Lee is the answer again. He goes then to the teacher to find out what it is about and before he open his mouth the teacher is shouting "They are all lying, I'm Bruce Lee"

So to continue on this threat I would like to say I'm the owner of the domain http://seo.net

But habb was 5 minutes from actually buying it from me. And this is so weird so I just have to tell this story.

Well I got a buyer (habb) who gave me good offer for the domain. So we agreed on the conditions and they came with the car driving 500 km so we could sign the deal. They called me that they just arrived and will be at my place in few minutes. I made just last check on the google putting in keywords "seo" and "domain". The bell rings on my door and at the same time a link is popping up saying "SEO.com Domain Purchased for $5 Million". I'm opening the link and what do I see? A photo of a guy that I met almost 10 years ago at the Rapid Site dealer network in Boca Raton, Mike Mann. If I remember right he just moved to US from Germany and had started an e-commerce business. What a wired situation??? What should I do now????
I was quite shocked and you probably guessed that I couldn't sell this domain to these poor guys without making more research around the whole warped situation. Not enough that it was sold to so high price, but to a person I have met in real life????

I have read now about Mike's great success on selling domain business for MUS 65. It's really cool to know somebody who have got some success.

Another thing why I didn't sell to you habb was that your hand shacked terribly showing that you were very nervous. The rise of the offer with 2/3 of the original value means that it was a good choice. And with your offer you are not out of the game.

When now researching what the value can be I got very surprised founding these posts because I own the domain and I didn't post it.

Thanks guys for your opinion on the value of http://seo.net
I decided that I will try to sell it on sedo.com on an auction. I have not contacted sedo yet but I will do it soon. If I get something around these values you posted here I will just let it go. My mail is [email protected] if anyone wishes to contact me.

:hehe: :hehe:

 

[gorilla_bob]

Will the real Slim Shady please stand up? :P

 

[Damion]

I can argue with you on this one. What REPUTATION do you have if you rip off people on something valuable because they don't know about it

Bullcrap, if you don't research what you have before you're selling then that is your responsibility. Should you undersell something then you're not ripped off - you just made a bad move on your own.

Did you at least compensate his travel expenses?
It's a pretty crappy thing to do what you have done Sonix.

 

[domi]

Did you pay haab for his expence to drive all the way to you for nothing?
A deal is a deal :imho: . Your lucky you didnt get someone that didn't take to kindly to your ethics. You should have researched the price more before backing out and making this poor guy drive all the way to you.No like while he is at your door lol!

 

[sonix]

Thank you, Kate.
I was wondering if anyone else got it.

Guys,
Let me make this clear once for all. There was no contract. If you read in English it says agreed on conditions which are not equal to agreed on the deal. If there was a contract then it's just to transfer the domain and money and that's all. Why to bother to sign any papers.
They came TO buy and not because they bought. Why to meet and sign anything otherwise.
Please take this to your information. When you sign a contract it's when the deal is done. Until then you have to agree on the conditions, so that you can meet and sign off the deal.
Another thing is that he said first that he had some other things to do so he will come, then first when they were here I got to know that it was the only business here. Secondly, when they were driving there were still details that was discussed and added and changed to the contract and mailed back and forward. But I can’t write a book here about all the details.
And then it turns out that the domain is worth much, much more. No strange that the offer was raised a 2/3 by these guys shortly after. So even the buyers didn’t accuse me for things you are doing.
I think it’s very unprofessional to accuse anyone without knowing all the facts and not reading carefully the text. You should ask first if you really have so high business ethics yourself.

 

[domi]

The guy would not have driven 500 miles if the agreement was not for sure.
At least I would not have

 

[Pred]

Anyone for some.......?


:hehe:

 

[sonix]

I was hoping to get info and help on how to sell this domain to right price instead of this pointless discussion. I’m not in this business. So I hope that this will now turn in right direction. But thank you that you are engaged (probably the right English word)

 

[domi]

:kickass: :lol:

I offer $5.00

 

[geb9696]

"Well I got a buyer (habb) who gave me good offer for the domain. So we agreed on the conditions and they came with the car driving 500 km so we could sign the deal."

The way you worded this makes me believe that you did in fact have a verbal contract that you went back on. While the actual events may have unfolded differently the way you stated what happened makes it appear that the deal was made and you committed to a verbal contract and in order to further protect himself habb wanted to have signed documentation on the transaction.

I am not trying to judge but I do see how people are coming about the conclusion that you made a verbal contact and then backed out at the last second. It has to do with the way you described how the events unfolded. Anyway, Goodluck with the sale.

 

[Devil_Dog]

LOW Class.

 

[sonix]

"Well I got a buyer (habb) who gave me good offer for the domain. So we agreed on the conditions and they came with the car driving 500 km so we could sign the deal."

The way you worded this makes me believe that you did in fact have a verbal contract that you went back on. While the actual events may have unfolded differently the way you stated what happened makes it appear that the deal was made and you committed to a verbal contract and in order to further protect himself habb wanted to have signed documentation on the transaction.

I am not trying to judge but I do see how people are coming about the conclusion that you made a verbal contact and then backed out at the last second. It has to do with the way you described how the events unfolded. Anyway, Goodluck with the sale.

Thanks,
Well, I had to be short so that it is ok to read. To me it's clear that conditions and deal are two different things, but English is not my first language so I can be wrong.
In that case sorry for the misspelling and upsetting some people.

 

[domi]

Im not upset.
Well, yes im upset I don't own SEO.net