Sellout?

[LeetPCUser]

Has anyone else noticed that NamePros is starting to sell out? I see more and more ads every day. I know, you can makea lot of money, but still they are making quite a bit from it. I am not saying I am upset enough to leave I am just sad that NP is losing its value.

 

[.X.]

QUOTE:Now I don't want to get banned for this, or warned (since all I need is one more warning point before I'm banned) - but I need to say that I think some of your staff need to get a talking to or ... get replacements... I don't mean to sound harsh and I won't mention both of their usernames but I think that they can guess who they are.

I've heard at least a dozen complaints in the year 2006 alone - not including myself - of unjust moderator actions. I know it's not a democracy but I think that they shouldn't be allowed to be dictators either. These 2 in particular always seem to be on power trips. I think that - if you're not going to do anything ELSE about it - I think you should at LEAST tell them to be more diplomatic and hear things out... and to stop avoiding answering questions in the PTS forum unless they can find something to pin you on! That's one thing that's driving me MAD.

New staff?? Why because you can't follow rules? The staff here is a well originized staff that does an outstanding job.And iam not a member of the staff here either.Well not officially anyway.But i have dealt with you in chat,And you simply don't know how to follow rules,Simple as that.If you decide to leave...Don't let the NamePros door hit you in the rear on your way out.

 

[Eric]

While Ron deserves the money - doesn't he have enough already? - The popularity of NamePros should be enough reward. I don't know his personal finances and none of you do either but I would think that Ron should be able to make some money other ways.

That's right, neither you nor I know how he stands in his personal finances. But I do know, that most if not ALL profit generated by ads, etc is put right back into NamePros.

I don't mind the ads myself but it's a matter of principle IMO. Making money off a site isn't a bad thing - it's great - but it's to what extent you go to to make... more than you need from it.

:lol: Honestly... I will agree with jeter here. How long could any company/site last if they made "just enough"? Eventually, "just enough" would no longer cut it. And I will make this point again, MOST if not ALL profit goes right back into NamePros. Either for new features for members, or the domain registration system (yep, NP$ gotta be converted someway, as far as I know, eNom doesn't accept NP$ :hehe: ) Of course, this is after hosting costs etc.

Now I don't want to get banned for this, or warned (since all I need is one more warning point before I'm banned) - but I need to say that I think some of your staff need to get a talking to or ... get replacements... I don't mean to sound harsh and I won't mention both of their usernames but I think that they can guess who they are.

Heh, it's no secret that i'm one of them. Lol, why new staff? Is it because you can't follow the rules? Rules that have been pointed out to you numerous times by not only myself, but Ron, Mark, and others??

I know it's not a democracy but I think that they shouldn't be allowed to be dictators either. These 2 in particular always seem to be on power trips. I think that - if you're not going to do anything ELSE about it - I think you should at LEAST tell them to be more diplomatic and hear things out...

Powertrip? Dictators? :lol: Give me a break. YOU and YOU alone cause 100% of your problems. Trust me, it's hard trying to hear someone out when they've been told over and over again that this, or that is against the rules and to stop, yet they continue to do it. And even mock those rules.

To the OP, how in the hell is adding advertisements to a site "selling out"? WooHoo!!! 3 new ads, in the footer.. Big Deal! For as long as I've been here, the only advertisements have been the banners in the header, and the Adsense... which btw revenue is shared 50/50 with members. 3 new ads in nearly a year...yep, he's selling out. :bah:

 

[Chris]

compuXP, your comments don't make a whole lot of sense to be honest. If the advertising shouldn't be here and RJ has "enough already" like you say, then why is there any paid advertising in the world? Doesn't ABC and NFL have enough money already? So why do they need to charge mega bucks for Super Bowl ads (around $83,000 per second). Don't newspaper companies make enough off of the subscribers....so why do they charge for classified ads. Why do companies charge for billboard ads, don't they have enough? Racing teams have enough money....so why do sponsors have to pay to sponsor the teams and get a decal on the car.

Rules are rules and they apply for everyone. If someone breaks the rules then they have to face the consequences. If you commit a traffic violation then you get pulled over and get a ticket or more depending on what it was. If there are 30 so called people whining then there is a reason why they were banned in the first place. We don't go banning as we sit fit for the heck of it. There's a reason behind the action we take.

The Internet was meant for free stuff.

I think you need to wake up from your fairtytale dreams and face reality. There's not too much in life that is free now. This is crap that eBay/PayPal are being selfish and making us pay fees for their service. I think they should drop all fees and pay the expenses out of their own pockets. Heck why do people sell domains and not give them away instead..? Why is Dell being greedy and charging when they could be giving them away for free???? Darn and I just bought a new computer a few months ago...could of gotten it for free now.

I'm going to start giving away laptops and dedicated servers for free. There's no limit, request as many as you want. I'm personally covering the expenses. Get real...if everything was free then companies would be filing for bankruptcy nonstop and there would be no companies left.

( Now's the time to insert one of -db-'s eye rolling smileys... )

If you don't like it here, then no one is forcing you to stay here.

 

[sunken]

I don't see what the problem is with a couple of ads at the bottom of the page. I'm sure RJ knows the fine line between ads and annoyance. But you can't slight him for monetizing something he and his group work so hard on. Personally I don't care if he's a profit corp or a non-profit corp. The site is a great resource for domainers and if his devotion and hard work deserve reward, than so be it. There is a lot of options he could go if we were going to go the greed route, but you can't expect him to pay out of pocket for all the expenses without some source of income.

Selling out is not putting a few ads up to support the site or gain a bit of extra to put back into the site (or even to use for his own personal use). Selling out is changing the philosophy of the site, which is to provide a huge resource for free. I, for one, am glad that he doesn't sell out.

 

[Sinfully Wicked]

I got a good idea on how to make NamePros better....Ban complete assholes like CompuXP, bitching like a little girl in the auction the other day because HE was later and it was HIS fault. Ban idiots like Geek for starting threads like this for no apparent reason, well fellas, theres a simple answer to all of this "Dont like it ****off" simple.

RJ deserves complete respect for what he has done for all you the people in this community and he lets most people off pretty lightly with some things i have seen.

As for the Ads, RJ, add some more ads please, i feel the need for more information and ill be clicking on everyone of them.

Geek and XP, to me you both have shown nothing but disrespect for not only RJ but the NP comminuty as a whole. If it wasent for the auctions and NP neither of you would be involved in domains today i suspect, you wouldnt have made half the sales you have had or good buys.


Thank you

Sin

 

[Don]

Well spoken sin.

 

[oliciv]

Still, that's like saying "Hammas" is a charity organization - even though we all know they're terrorists. I'm not saying Bill is a terrorist but he's ... well, let me put it this way. We didn't invite him into the tech world. He kind of butted in. If you want to continue to argue this, I'll grab some resources now...

You weren't even born when he "butted in" to the tech world, so I don't know where "we" comes from.

Are you going to threaten to leave NP in every thread you post in?

The Internet was meant for free stuff.

Maybe so, but if it had stayed that way then it's likely you'd never even have used it. It's debatable how much of a loss that would be :hehe:

While Ron deserves the money - doesn't he have enough already? - The popularity of NamePros should be enough reward.

I'm sure he makes most of his decisions about when he has enough money based on a 15 year old member of an internet forum.

Shouldn't the pride of owning a forum like this be enough to satisfy you?

Making enough money to live on will mean a lot more to you when you're older :lol:

I've heard at least a dozen complaints in the year 2006 alone - not including myself - of unjust moderator actions.

I wonder how many complaints there are about your posts.
[/QUOTE]

Still, that's like saying "Hammas" is a charity organization

No it isn't. Bill Gates does a lot more good things than bad...

 

[singx]

We surely don't want RJ to quit NP and go home, which he can always easily do with all the other things he supposedly has...why do something for general good and then listen to instructions rather than suggestions, wish i had the guts to be that impartial...

I am thankful for his benevolence, and will definitely do not want this to happen and left stranded, so as long as this wonderful resource is there, in any form - i am good!

 

[Gene]

While Ron deserves the money - doesn't he have enough already?

The hell? I'm just floored by this kind of thinking. "doesn't he have enough already?" What business is that of yours?? And how is that even relevant? Are you saying that once a person reaches your idea of "success" that he or she should cease to make more money?

"The popularity of NamePros should be enough reward."

"popularity" doesn't pay the bills. The more income RJ can generate from NamePros, the more he can promote it to continuously increase membership. And the more income he personally derives from it, the more he is able to be generous to charity if he so chooses. But again, that is neither your or my business. The bottom line is NamePros is a business venture, and from what I can tell, is just getting started. In business there is no such thing as "standing still". You're either moving forward, or moving backwards. As soon as you stop trying to move forward, you're destined for failure.

 

[01wojtowicz]

How is ahving some add's a sell out, a sell out would be to either

1 sell the site to someone who will charge for you to eb a memeber
OR
2Charge for you to eb a member
OR
3 cover the site in ad's
and therse plaenty more ways to sell out but 3 ads at the bottom of a page isnt a sell out!
... The ammou of money RJ makes doesnt matter to you or I, He can make as much as he wants and it wont effect us! Leave his finances alone and realise that being so stuck up wont change things. And XP, if everyone lived by your princiles of makign just enough, then the whole world would be differnet, wed all be basically the same financially and that wouldnt be good as the people who put in the effort would make as much as the people who lounge around at home (a bit extreme but that would happen in the end, most people would rely on the state)

Sinfully Wicked and Joseph said it perfectly!

 

[jstep]

go to dn forum, then you can pay to view ads

 

[user-7256]

If you guys are waiting for a reply from me, you're wasting your time.

 

[True_Snake]

Someone needs to check their facts. And take some business course. A grade 1 kid can tell you how a business works. You're not in it to just cover your costs.

And about the Staff; you're not expecting to break the law and then not get the appropriate punishment are you?

Honestly, if you have a problem with it, PM me and ask me to close your account. Not just Matt, anyone. If you don't like it here, don't post that you don't like it; see that "X" on the top right corner of your screen? Yeah that one. Click it and don't come back if all you're going to do is complain.

And get your facts straight.


True_Snake

 

[Eric]

If you guys are waiting for a reply from me, you're wasting your time.

Good, last thing I want to hear is more BS.

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Interesting.

 

[oliciv]

If you guys are waiting for a reply from me, you're wasting your time.

You guys are mean I'm telling




:hehe:

 

[Host47]

RJ can do what the hell he likes, if he wants a hundred popups and if you don't like then leave or do the common sense thing and get a pop up stopper, as someone said earlier, they barely notice the ads, I have to agree but who really cares about a few small ads, do they ruin your viewing of the site, NO, are they hurting the ozone layer, NO, so get over it and grow up.....

 

[JYM]

Well I see that CompuXP's account is closed.. so no more disrespect from him I hope.

Honestly RJ has done an outstanding job with NamePros. If I am correct, I read on Domaining Blog and their interview with RJ that RJ basically spends the equivalent of a day-job on Namepros. So this gives me two impressions: he either works on NamePros all day or he goes to work, comes back, then works on NamePros. Now obviously RJ wants NamePros to go somewhere (it already has, but I am sure he wants to make the community bigger and better), so what gives anyone the right to tell RJ how to run his forum? Hasn't he already taken NamePros this far?

I like to think of RJ as the Bill Gates of domaining forums. Obviously NamePros is the biggest domaining forum around and also rumors say NP is probably worth a few million dollars.. and yet it's main goal has and always will be the benefit of the users right? Sure Bill Gates has a lot of money, and he could just retire because he has enough money to live in luxury for hundreds of life times, and yet he is still working and still trying to advance technology.

Besides, those advertisements at the bottom don't do anything. For anyone to notice it and then think that NamePros is selling out is... completely retarded in my opinion. If RJ wanted to make huge profits don't you think he would stick those ads in the middle of someone's post or something? Sheesh...

Ungrateful little *beeps*...

 

[Eric]

Well I see that CompuXP's account is closed.. so no more disrespect from him I hope.

Actually, it isn't. compuXP changed it to that himself.

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[peaches017]

Lmao... I was wondering about that when I saw what you [sv] and i subsequently posted.

I just figured no one could be that stupid and immature... o how wrong i was...

 

[-db-]

Now's the time to insert one of -db-'s eye rolling smileys...

See... we really do need one!