.mobi Seeing some trends I don't like....Mobi

[jeffoverman]

Hi

First of all, I want everyone to know I am a fan of mobi, I am a mobi domain user, buy my domain names, flowers on my crackberry. I love reading things, especially the namepros.mobi site. Ha!while I am working this dead end job at night and lost my number business account, I needed income so I browse the net on my phone at work.

Ok. Here I go. Want thoughts, good and bad.

I am seeing a trend by google. I think google is going put a damper on mobi names, websites. Why do I think this?

I had downloaded the google mobile software and basically its fast, easy to use and I know google is trying catch up to yahoo mobile search. Side note, google needs to buy admob and if it was for frank schilling, couple other big boys yahoo would be in worser condition. Sorry had to side track on this, my next post I guess.

Anyways.....

The software works great, easy format, fast. Now here is the twist and my argument is that google software could slow the mobi domain business, registrations down heavily. There are always exceptions to things.

1. You can view a perfect .com website and google transform it to mobi format. Even the nampro ads on front page loads fast if not the same speed basically.

2. So if 95 percent of the dot com sites can be accessed on the google software and good why go dot mobi? I am referring to here, in India then dot mobi would be good since there probably 5 years behind us.

3. Google will probably win the FCC and enter the cell phone market. All they need to do is offer free phones, free wimax cell phones, free voip or something and the masses will be huge for google. So basically the anti tech person will leave verison do the google phone and service, punch in dot com because of google software and ignore the dot mobi? The plus side of this for the domain owners would mean more views and clicks and huge ad revenue for google assuming your parking company does feeds with them

Abmob would be the most perfect fit for google, users and the push for mobi development.

Then you can say the tellme networks, search through talking will dampen us a lot.


I am upbeat as a whole but the above issues worry me the most on mobi factors.

Oh. Ricks flowers.mobi 200,000 purchase. Did you know flowers.com you type that in and it fits your phone. They know that's a web browser and formats perfectly. I am sure Rick knows this by now. The web developers and site makers will dampen the mobi market in a big way. The prices will come down, the outsource companies will learn how to do this well for 500 bucks and run dot com, dot net and have a website that can viewed as a mobi site.

So before you guys say Jeff is clueless, just think about this and the risk factors. Besides that, the future holds well but will impact it some.

Talking admob, send me PM if you know a good admob developer please for basic stuff and cheap. Indidicate general prices please and how they charge. Prefer Romania and willing give India developers a chance as well or a us developer that won't charge me 300 a web site.


Thanks.

 

[hedgefund]

Are you kidding? Google is much much better and stronger than admob, it's mobile ad system is in beta, google does not need admob at all. And the most important, google can do context search and advertizing where abmob can't do or is very weak. Context search is why google makes much more money than any of its competitors.

Now regarding mobi, you could be right, google is going for the mobile application platform.

but converting a .com site to mobile format is a no no, because no matter how clever the converting software is it will not filter out a lot of garbage on a .com site.

 

[jeffoverman]

Agree on some...

1. good point on admob...however how about google buys it anyways and continue to do what there doing...

but converting a .com site to mobile format is a no no, because no matter how clever the converting software is it will not filter out a lot of garbage on a .com site.


quoted above- www.flowers.com on a google download software version or even a normal phone and it should work amazing..you will see what I am saying-the webmasters and the company that did this for 800 flowers will impact the .mobi part of things...

good thoughts-keep them coming...I love reading everyones thoughts and view points-only in america!

 

[GeoOwners]

Dont forget the reverse is also true...a mobi can detect a PC and show a full blown site...so it all comes down to marketing.

my own take is like this...I own SportsWriter.mobi, could prolly not afford sportswriter.com...I can put the same site on both.

bingo.


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[garrett200]

A lot of things could happen, it is WAY early to speculate as to what WILL happen.

Althought they haven't really shown it yet, remember that Google is a so called backer of .mobi.

If they decide to roll with .mobi, they could singlehandedly make it an instant overnight success.

 

[jeffoverman]

I hope your right...They wanted mobi users and people on there phones buying things like me but just had to bring that up with the google software issue and the tell me factor..then I notice google has 411 calling now-toll free number for search I believe...will test that one out soon.

Mobi names and full blown sites-yes I agree for the most part except that sedo does all there mobi names in mobi format..parked, traffic z you are right on they are full blown sites on computer.

J

 

[garrett200]

New Jeff vs. old Jeff - No comparison, LOL.

 

[scandiman]

jeffoverman, I'm not seeing anything disturbing about Google spending millions, if not billions of dollars to increase the number of people using the web on their phone. Isn't more mobile web users a good thing?

It doesn't bother me one bit that domains other than .mobi are being used for mobile content. They existed before .mobi and more will continue to be used. Technology will continue to try and find new ways to shove 17" websites into 3" phones. None of this is surprising as it was being done before .mobi even launched. But none of this trumps or renders useless the .mobi trustmark. Any website on the planet CAN be coded to view well on a mobile phone, but only a .mobi MUST. As an added benefit, .mobi sites are typically built from the ground up with mobile users in mind, delivering content relevant to mobile users in a context that is friendly to the small screen. .mobi=mobile, that branding statement is taking hold more and more each and every day.

All the gloom and doom prognostications about the iPhone killing .mobi have proven invalid, .mobi site traffic is up thanks to the iPhone because more mobile web users = good for .mobi.

 

[garrett200]

All the gloom and doom prognostications about the iPhone killing .mobi have proven invalid, .mobi site traffic is up thanks to the iPhone because more mobile web users = good for .mobi.

I couldn't agree more. Ever since the thing came out, traffic and clicks have skyrocketed, at least for me.

The more mobile web users there are, the better .mobi will do. And since the mobile web is pretty much guaranteed to be the "next big thing", the future of .mobi looks very very bright.

 

[jeffoverman]

iphone killer, lol so tired of that term worse then web 2.0

I am so tired of hearing the iphone killer. Weather it be the dot mobi, or how its going kill blackberry.

No way in hell its going beat blackberry and there platform. Takes twice as long to type vs keys. The only thing good for I phone is there browser, amazing screen. Besides that its over hyped junk and there email sucks.

Besides you drop 600 bucks on a phone before the phone price dropped today and you send the iphone back to apple so they can recharge your phone. What about privacy factors, losing it in the postal service, being with out a phone for a few days.

As you can see I am no means of an iphone phone and happy to be a proud crackberry user and loyal user.

J

Hmm. Interesting thoughts. Still a risk factor on google software but google wants mobi users. That's why they did the software but my issue and worries is .com formats well and works as great as mobi right now.

We shall see. Hope I am wrong because I am a buyer of mobi names and I just rigged my first mis spelling mobi word. Hint, the big one and sold today or yesterday. I got rigged on a dot com and missing out some traffic so I guess its my turn.

More misspellings on mobi users I believe if the word isn't predicting well and etc.

 

[satsdifference.com]

google software?

google trying to cover all corners of the square?

I really think Google is more powerful than even people give it acknowledgement for, and that is alot already..

if I get this picture of the software correct..

..well, I don't think trying to get people to install software or going to a site to visit another site is reliable across the gamit.. i mean the extra step is why i think .mobi can succeed because it cuts out the middle man.. i mean the second half of the domain (extension) in the URL can already have implications..

I've always stated that the success of dotmobi is not necessarily a techie issue (though, since most people who know about it are techies so they see it through that lens often); but, rather what becomes popular to the mainstream timely will gauge this dot mobi's success..

After one year, I am guessing a birfday coming out statement, perhaps a strong second wind marketing blitz; maybe gone are some of the held back, strange URL's and the purposeful non marketing (like TV) of the companies already on board.. yes, most phones don't have internet yet.. but dot mobi seems geared to strike soon with a marketing blitz to ensure that it brands itself (the domain extension and this alliance) as small screen internet to the masses off the bat.. or risk a leaky bucket of non compliant sites spreading? remember, nobody knows yet if all those sites in all those languages can be policed for compliance.. if deemed not, anymore, than the brand of .mobi as small screen internet must come out soon enough to the masses mentality - then others will follow and spur that content & ecosystem desired..

well, we'll see.. hold on to your best dot mobis friends; and, for others, look into that aftermarket asap to secure a spot in this roller coaster ride so powerful, silence is the game (for security/power reasons apparently)



Kind Regards,

Yelo

 

[scandiman]

...but my issue and worries is .com formats well and works as great as mobi right now.

Granted, I haven't seen what you are specifically referring to but I find this very difficult to believe. A site built for PC users typically contains way too much information for a tiny mobile screen. Something will fall apart when you take 17" of information and automatically compress it into a 3" screen (or 1.5" on my phone). Either there is too much text, or you have to scroll and zoom to read it all, or the automated system will eliminate stuff from view. Also something will be lost in terms of the graphics, either reduced too small or at full size you are scrolling around to see it. And then there is the current issue of Flash content.

Mobile is a unique medium that requires a different design approach for your site content. No automated programming can decide what is or is not relevant for mobile users.