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Namepros forced me to change my avatar- Do you find it or me disturbing

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Seems clear to me that the Mod Teams are slowly prepping NP for sale.

Think about it. In recent-ish NP history, management has:

- enticed many of us into paid accounts (successfully boosting revenue)

- become extremely lenient allowing spam & spammers (boosting post & member counts) (quantity > quality) (poor for the community, so it's a giveaway that owners are prepping to sell)

- switched to anonymous modding (less accountability for the unpopular "HR" decisions)

- been pushing people to use their full names (an attempt to give this place a more LinkedIn-esque "professional" vibe, and transcend being "just a forum")

- and now apparently the next step is profile pictures

Some members will find the "new" NP appealing, but many will venture to a more casual, fun domain forum, where they're able to express themselves more freely, and without constantly being bombarded with spam and bickering.

In the end, will it be "worth it" for the owners? Possibly, if a sale occurs sooner than later. But we're clearly seeing a growing trend of high-quality members leaving NP, so I'd say it's pretty clear that this won't be "worth it" for the NP community.
 
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Dear NamePros Mods,
By this act you guys are saying that a person's appearence/looks is more important than his/her wisdom.
Not fair.
Can we please keep this forum Cool as before!?
Cheers!
 
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He wasn't asked to remove it because of the report. He was asked to remove it because NP felt it was unprofessional. The report just brought it to their attention.

Would I find it reasonable if you had to delete an Obama avatar for those reasons? No.

Would I make a stink about it if I were you? Maybe.

Would I feel strongly enough about it that I would leave the forum instead of just picking another picture and moving on with my life? Hell no.

Now you are doing doublespeak.

The Mod clearly stated that they acted because of the report. Now you come here, state the opposite and keep arguing pointlessly.

Basically, it was made clear that to lose an avatar forcefully two conditions are to be met a) someone has to complain; b) a mod has to find it unprofessional by own personal standards.
 
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Now you are doing doublespeak.

The Mod clearly stated that they acted because of the report. Now you come here, state the opposite and keep arguing pointlessly.

Basically, it was made clear that to lose an avatar forcefully two conditions are to be met a) someone has to complain; b) a mod has to find it unprofessional by own personal standards.
Correct. The report brings it to their attention, and then they make the decision on whether or not to take action.
 
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I think this is really unfortunate. We seem to have lost a long term and respected member over something that clearly many think is trivial. Many people have gotten angry and said some things in less than professional ways.

It seems from the exchange shown early in thread, that the original request was respectfully made by mods, and again respectful from mods on the repeat. While I totally understand a member not wanting to arbitrarily give up an avatar that he had used for a long time, and I think he had the right to respectfully request a reconsideration or additional reasons, but it seems, to me by simply saying I am leaving and starting this thread was not a helpful way to respond.

I found the image unattractive, but was not offended, perhaps because I had no clue until today what it was from (I never watch horror movies). I had always assumed it was just a really unflattering picture of Elad! :xf.eek:

A few times over the decades through my work I had to deal with situations that at first to me seemed someone unreasonably sensitive about something, but when I knew the entire story, I could see why they reacted so strongly to something that others felt was fine. That is why a vote, even if it was set up correctly, and voted on by more than about 0.05% of the monthly visitors to NamePros, would still not be the right way to decide an issue like this. I did not vote and do not plan to.

Mods have an incredibly difficult job, and all of us should go out of our way to be respectful and understanding, while at the same time communicating if we think they are off-base with a decision.

Perhaps this is already in place, but I wonder if what we need at NamePros is some sort of an appeal mechanism, not one with power to change what the admin and mods decide, but as a sober second look that they would consider in a reconsideration of a disputed decision. Several respected people who would confidentially look at issues brought to them, provide an opinion, which both sides would consider. At the very least it would provide a brief cooling off period so perhaps things like this would not explode in a matter of hours.

On some of the general issues raised earlier in the thread, I personally do support a more professional tone for NamePros, at least in the sections which are open to Google search. I think it is in all of our interests to be part of a professional domain organization that can facilitate our development as domain investors, and that has a positive public face to a much broader world.

While frankly, until today I had never thought much about avatars, I think what we need is some general guidance about what is and is not allowed, and some sort of phase-in period after the community has discussed in detail the new guidelines. I think the abruptness of the request was part of the issue here, and probably feeling singled out (or have others been asked to change avatars?) While I would prefer if everyone used a professional avatar, I realize that different people have different styles. I have wondered about the copyright or TM infringement issues with some images used. That seems incongruent with our general agreement that registering TM names is wrong.

I hope this can be unwound and some sort of satisfactory resolution found.

Bob
 
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Correct. The report brings it to their attention, and then they make the decision on whether or not to take action.

You saying correct and then saying something else in the following sentence doesn't make much sense. Mods can use their own eyes to "bring it to their attention", yet they haven't done it for hundreds of "unprofessional" avatars they see daily, and even within this thread. So, no, it is not about bringing to the attention.
 
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You saying correct and then saying something else in the following sentence doesn't make much sense. Mods can use their own eyes to "bring it to their attention", yet they haven't done it for hundreds of "unprofessional" avatars they see daily, and even within this thread. So, no, it is not about bringing to the attention.
@Mod Team Bravo explained earlier in the thread the reasons why many mods might miss those opportunities. I guess you can choose to accept their good faith and sincerity or not, but I agree that it would be nice if this kind of decision were applied more consistently.
 
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Correct. The report brings it to their attention, and then they make the decision on whether or not to take action.

Any mod doing their job properly would have seen that avatar go through the NP gamut many times.
 
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I find it funny that the person with the least common sense in this thread is calling himself "common sense consultant" on a profile label.

Please do consult us more, its entertaining :ROFL:
 
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I went ahead and made some template responses (no charge this time) for the future, for the next time somebody flags an avatar. Depending on how long you want your response to be:

Avatar is fine.

Avatar is fine, they've had it for years.

Avatar is fine, they've had it for years. Nobody else has ever complained about it.

Avatar is fine, they've had it for years. Nobody else has ever complained about it. Actually, I don't like your avatar. They can keep their avatar, you have to change yours. And take this 1 week account restriction to think about ever bringing this type of nonsense to me again.

much better than.........

What will probably turn into some 20+ page thread discussing avatars

Members possibly leaving

Members getting account restrictions
 
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@Mod Team Bravo explained earlier in the thread the reasons why many mods might miss those opportunities. I guess you can choose to accept their good faith and sincerity or not, but I agree that it would be nice if this kind of decision were applied more consistently.

They don't miss anything, regardless of what they say, because that is ... impossible.

They have on multiple occasions interacted with those peoples directly and indirectly. I can understand missing a post, but how do you miss an avatar of a person you interact with??? Especially, if the criteria is not just if it is horror or not (I can get that they haven't watched everything) but "professional" or not, which is pretty much either your own photo or your own logo.

I invite to use the god-given fantastic gift: a gift of critical thinking. It is an amazing resource.
 
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Any mod doing their job properly would have seen that avatar go through the NP gamut many times.
Well Mod Bravo did also say that NP is taking a "new direction". Either way, I agree with you guys that it wasn't a well thought-out decision. There's a definite lack of consistency.
 
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They don't miss anything, regardless of what they say, because that is ... impossible.

They have on multiple occasions interacted with those peoples directly and indirectly. I can understand missing a post, but how do you miss an avatar of a person you interact with??? Especially, if the criteria is not just if it is horror or not (I can get that they haven't watched everything) but "professional" or not, which is pretty much either your own photo or your own logo.

I invite to use the god-given fantastic gift: a gift of critical thinking. It is an amazing resource.
I'm all for critical thinking. But let's apply it to future decisions, not to cast blame for past mistakes.
 
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- switched to anonymous modding (less accountability for the unpopular "HR" decisions)

To be fair on that point, knowing the name is irrelevant it should be a member name with history I will agree with that, but should have no ties to real identity.

Pretty sure no one here wants their family threatened or to be told someone knows where their child goes to school.

And for all the, "Oh that's probably just a kid in his basement running his mouth, or some idiot harmless threat? It only takes one time for it to be not that. And modding this stupid forum is completely worthless compared to someone's well being and the well being of their family.
 
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I went ahead and made some template responses


Possible other template responses.


"It's just a movie, Thanks for understanding"

"It's just THEE comedic moment of the film, Thanks for understanding"

"You only see his head, Thanks for understanding"

"That movie was made in like fing 1980, Thanks for understanding"

"The movie had so many surreal moments it was arguably a dream, Thanks for understanding"

"Cinema and pop history is very professional, Thanks for understanding"

"Hey it's not the bear costume scene, Thanks for understanding"
 
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Might want to get the people using a Facebook Icon to change, are they Facebook? I don't have a problem with it but if we are talking impersonating or professional.Show attachment 152836
Thanks for letting us know.

We are currently in the process of trying to verifying their authorization to use that FaceBook Trademark, which could potentially be misleading to members, thinking they could possibly be an authorized representative for FaceBook.

Please report any other activity like that so we can investigate further.
 
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If we want to reimagine this scene playing out it could have and should have in my worthless opinion played out like this.

Member reports Elad N avatar
The Mod who got report would have had a discussion with all those making decisions (in another post it was said not all mods may have saw it as unprofessional)
They would then have said, people we do not want to single out one member, let's put together a post that we want to have a more professional looking forum.

Post published - Please be advised that members who have an avatar that does not fit with our enhanced professional standards will be kindly asked to change the avatar. We will not be holding a poll for each avatar, if you are asked to change it please change it. If you will not change it, we will refund you any 2020 membership fees you paid and close your account.

Namepros will be updating our terms of service that members understand by joining we can rule what avatars are professional and which are not.

Thank you
 
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Well I have read the whole thread, took some time, why bother? Because what brings me to NP is the members and the info I find and share, and the humour too. There have been some critical comments in this thread from members whose domain professionalism I value, and I especially value them because I have benefited from what they have posted over several years. So it really does concern me to see serious dissatisfaction and members leaving or being suppressed. Is it really so easy to go out and find replacement members with knowledge and experience?

The following mod comment wasn't directed at me but I want to point out something - it is not just words or images, but also attitudes that show respect.

You were issued a warning because of your behavior. Do you say, โ€œwtf are you even talking aboutโ€ to your coworkers and boss in an office environment? If so, then you are the perfect example of a member who will either learn to behave professionally or be removed from NamePros.

In case you missed it, NamePros has expectations for respect; we expect you to be respectful to every member. It can be described as:

Do you see us speaking to anyone that way?

Be respectful or leave. Itโ€™s that simple.

Edited: Post clarified. We were not calling moderators your boss. We were saying you should treat everyone on NamePros as professionally as you would treat your boss.

So do be cautious in talking about the .wtf domain extension, you have been warned. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.wtf
 
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