Sedo.com - Official Thread

[Sedo]

Hi All! :hi:

By request, we've decided to start a thread dedicated to Sedo. We're looking for invaluable insight into what domainers want and need out of our parking program (and marketplace, of course).

Questions, comments, suggestions, tips are welcome! We're hoping this will be a great discussion about what works at Sedo and what might not (please be constructive and respectful to others in your feedback) so that everyone involved can benefit and learn from it.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and ideas! Happy Holidays!

Always,
Keith
(on behalf of Sedo)

 

[NameGroove]

How does SEDO hold the domain name and block Afternic from doing the fast transfer? I'm missing something about the "HOLD" at SEDO

Good point. Let me clarify. Sedo doesn't place the hold. Sedo requests the hold. And it appears the registrar places it on hold (on their behalf)

Here is what happened

So according to PorkBun, Sedo places a hold. Sedo collects the funds. And then, instead of having the name transferred Sedo released it.

Meanwhile, Sedo requests buyer to create a GoDaddy Account

33 minutes later, buyer buys it on Afternic.

Now I'm asleep at 12:14am, so I am unable to immediately pull down the Afternic listing (but let's be real - many list at both Sedo and Afternic).

But Sedo had it on hold - had they kept the hold, PorkBun won't release or FT it. Not only did Sedo release the hold, they told the owner to create a GoDaddy acct which likely leads buyer to see/check the GoDaddy re path and see the listing. Why? They could've taken the name via Push into their PorkBun acct first. But no - they basically push the buyer to the competitive reg path, where the buyer buys it again.

This process (from Sedo) doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Bearded Goat]

This process (from Sedo) doesn't make sense to me.

It is definitely a strange set of circumstances. In your transfer center, under this cancelled sale, does the domain details tab show porkbun or godaddy as the registrar? If it shows godaddy, it would make sense that they asked the buyer to create a godaddy account. But if it shows porkbun, I don't get it.

 

[rh2000]

Good point. Let me clarify. Sedo doesn't place the hold. Sedo requests the hold. And it appears the registrar places it on hold (on their behalf)

Here is what happened

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So according to PorkBun, Sedo places a hold. Sedo collects the funds. And then, instead of having the name transferred Sedo released it.

Meanwhile, Sedo requests buyer to create a GoDaddy Account

Show attachment 281650

33 minutes later, buyer buys it on Afternic.

Show attachment 281656

Now I'm asleep at 12:14am, so I am unable to immediately pull down the Afternic listing (but let's be real - many list at both Sedo and Afternic).

But Sedo had it on hold - had they kept the hold, PorkBun won't release or FT it. Not only did Sedo release the hold, they told the owner to create a GoDaddy acct which likely leads buyer to see/check the GoDaddy re path and see the listing. Why? They could've taken the name via Push into their PorkBun acct first. But no - they basically push the buyer to the competitive reg path, where the buyer buys it again.

This process (from Sedo) doesn't make sense to me.

That is strange. Sedo must not have a Godaddy holding account. Usually, you just push the domain to Sedo's holding account.

 

[Bearded Goat]

That is strange. Sedo must not have a Godaddy holding account. Usually, you just push the domain to Sedo's holding account.

Sedo does have a godaddy account. If the domain is at godaddy, sedo will ask buyer to create an account there so they can push it. But sedo won't take a godaddy push unless buyer has godaddy. Because once pushed, it is locked from transfer out.

@NameGroove this was a normal sale, correct? One via sedo's website and not mls right?

 

[NameGroove]

It is definitely a strange set of circumstances. In your transfer center, under this cancelled sale, does the domain details tab show porkbun or godaddy as the registrar? If it shows godaddy, it would make sense that they asked the buyer to create a godaddy account. But if it shows porkbun, I don't get it.

Sedo does have a godaddy account. If the domain is at godaddy, sedo will ask buyer to create an account there so they can push it. But sedo won't take a godaddy push unless buyer has godaddy. Because once pushed, it is locked from transfer out.

@NameGroove this was a normal sale, correct? One via sedo's website and not mls right?

Under tech contact details, it shows GoDaddy Software Inc - but I don't know why. I do not have any names regged with GoDaddy (left them 18 mos ago). Not one of my names shows GoDaddy and I didn't enter tech details (which they ask us to do as I was asleep when this purchase went through).

The name was found directly on Sedo's website

 

[Jannes]

"Go Daddy Software, Inc", isn't that a name from 20 years ago?

 

[Bearded Goat]

So strange. I didn't know sedo would / could place a hold for a domain that was not an mls sale. I get why they asked buyer to create godaddy account if godaddy was listed as the registrar. But I don't get why a hold at porkbun and then release.

@Sedo maybe you can explain.

At the end of the day, you can maybe just blame the buyer for having zero patience. Had they just waited a minute, it would have been sorted out and the sale would have been taken care of. Instead they paid for the domain twice. They sure wanted that name.

 

[MAA-Wave]

Hello,
I need help with keywords
Master Keywords ( how many phrase )
Regional Keywords ( how many phrase )
Related Keywords ( how many phrase )

sedo, sedo, sedo3

or just sedo

 

[Sedo]

Good point. Let me clarify. Sedo doesn't place the hold. Sedo requests the hold. And it appears the registrar places it on hold (on their behalf)

Here is what happened

Show attachment 281655

So according to PorkBun, Sedo places a hold. Sedo collects the funds. And then, instead of having the name transferred Sedo released it.

Meanwhile, Sedo requests buyer to create a GoDaddy Account

Show attachment 281650

33 minutes later, buyer buys it on Afternic.

Show attachment 281656

Now I'm asleep at 12:14am, so I am unable to immediately pull down the Afternic listing (but let's be real - many list at both Sedo and Afternic).

But Sedo had it on hold - had they kept the hold, PorkBun won't release or FT it. Not only did Sedo release the hold, they told the owner to create a GoDaddy acct which likely leads buyer to see/check the GoDaddy re path and see the listing. Why? They could've taken the name via Push into their PorkBun acct first. But no - they basically push the buyer to the competitive reg path, where the buyer buys it again.

This process (from Sedo) doesn't make sense to me.

Hello,

Thank you for your comment.

As a general information we are happy to provide the following: The Hold & Release function is used to place a domain on hold and prevent purchase from any other SedoMLS partner, or to release the domain from hold again. Domain names can be placed on hold for a maximum of 4 days (96 hours), after which they are automatically released for anyone to purchase.

If a domain is listed for sale on Sedo and is promoted via our MLS network, we cannot block one particular MLS partner – Afternic in your case – from doing a fast transfer.

Kindly send us your domain in question to [email protected] so we can have a closer look and provide a more specific answer to your case.

Best regards,
Your Sedo Team

 

[NameGroove]

Hello,

Thank you for your comment.

As a general information we are happy to provide the following: The Hold & Release function is used to place a domain on hold and prevent purchase from any other SedoMLS partner, or to release the domain from hold again. Domain names can be placed on hold for a maximum of 4 days (96 hours), after which they are automatically released for anyone to purchase.

If a domain is listed for sale on Sedo and is promoted via our MLS network, we cannot block one particular MLS partner – Afternic in your case – from doing a fast transfer.

Kindly send us your domain in question to [email protected] so we can have a closer look and provide a more specific answer to your case.

Best regards,
Your Sedo Team

Ahh, ok. So even though you tell PorkBun to place it on hold - since my name was cross marketed (on both Afternic & Sedo) - your hold is overridden if the buyer decides to buy both places. You would think PorkBun would keep the hold, but since PorkBun is also a Fast Transfer partner with them - likely released the hold when they saw the sale come through there.

Does Sedo also offer "fast transfer"? If it does, one would think the whole thing would've been wrapped up before Afternic attempted the same. Afternic's Fast Transfer was completed in 5 minutes (and Sedo had 30 minutes to complete the fast transfer before the buyer bought at Afternic). Since Sedo requested the buyer to create a GoDaddy account, I do not believe you offer a true "fast transfer" program. May I suggest implementing one?

As for the request to create a GoDaddy account I have no idea why you asked the buyer to do this. The name was not at GoDaddy... and this step is likely what alerted the buyer to the fact that the name was concurrently listed at GoDaddy (via Afternic). Any thoughts on why this step is/was taken?

 

[Domain Pro Seller]

@Sedo

I applied for the .co.uk/.uk auction with a 99 reserve, and you rejected my domain supervisory.uk along with RoyalWoman.co.uk. Sedo sent me an email saying it was rejected because “Criteria not met,” and then “Learn more about the required criteria here: https://sedo.com/faq/faq.php?faqid=1017.”

Well, I clicked the link, and it takes me to something irrelevant, because the title of the article is “What are the requirements for a GreatDomains Auction Event?” But the auction I applied for is NOT a GreatDomains Auction.

So, why did you reject my domain? Did you think you want to have “better” domains in this theme auction? It’s a one-word domain! And not even a rare word! Then, I visited this page and I saw the following criteria all of which are met by my domain:

Or maybe you’re expecting the owner of like car.co.uk or books.uk to list theirs in this auction with a 99 reserve (as you mention)? lol.

Edit: You’ve accepted into the auction throttled.co.uk, which has 14 TLDs taken, and gunsmiths.co.uk, but not mine, which has 24! And it’s a better word and a more useful domain!

 

[Future Sensors]

Anyone using Sedo's SL1 and SL2 nameservers, both are down right now, so your landers won't load.

The nameservers are not responsive to queries over UDP (91.195.240.173 and 91.195.241.173).

This is not the first time. A recent Sedo webserver outage which affected over one million landers, lasted three (3) days without detection. More info in this thread.

I'm done using Sedo landers for groups of my domains, but will continue listing passively.

 

[carob]

Anyone using Sedo's SL1 and SL2 nameservers, both are down right now, so your landers won't load.

The nameservers are not responsive to queries over UDP (91.195.240.173 and 91.195.241.173).

This is not the first time. A previous Sedo outage lasted three (3) days without detection. More info in this thread.

I'm done using Sedo landers for groups of my domains, but will continue listing passively.

Do the pages using the ns1.sedoparking.com pages load?

Are Sedo missing payments on their hosting account?

 

[Future Sensors]

Do the pages using the ns1.sedoparking.com pages load?

Are Sedo missing payments on their hosting account?

The traditional ns1 and ns2 (sedoparking) nameservers worked, indeed, while sl1 and sl2 did not respond.

At moment of writing, sl1 and sl2 are responding again, but I'm not going to experiment with Sedo landers again.

 

[pb]

Seem to work now, any idea how long the downtime was?

 

[Future Sensors]

Seem to work now, any idea how long the downtime was?

No, I just happened to notice it while visiting several of my domains. And since then it was at least half an hour before I reported it in this thread. I checked from several locations, including DNSViz.

 

[Future Sensors]

Contributing to my view is the fact that Sedo failed to take real responsibility for the earlier three‑day outage, choosing instead to downplay it.

 

[pb]

Thanks. Maybe it's a part of the wider problem with periodical unavailability of different websites that I'm observing for the last two days... I've read google and openai had outages this morning as well. Some websites I'm regularly visiting are down right now. Concerning.

 

[Future Sensors]

Thanks. Maybe it's a part of the wider problem with periodical unavailability of different websites that I'm observing for the last two days... I've read google and openai had outages this morning as well. Some websites I'm regularly visiting are down right now. Concerning.

That's a Google outage, right. I don't think it is related.

inetnum: 91.195.240.0 - 91.195.241.255
netname: SEDO-NET
descr: Sedo Domain Parking
descr: Im Mediapark 6b
descr: 50670 Koeln
country: DE
org: ORG-SA551-RIPE
admin-c: OD12023-RIPE
admin-c: IXCW-RIPE
tech-c: IXCW-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PI
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-END-MNT
mnt-by: IX1-MNT
mnt-routes: IX1-MNT
mnt-domains: IX1-MNT
created: 2007-10-25T09:36:24Z
last-modified: 2023-01-24T09:53:13Z
source: RIPE
sponsoring-org: ORG-IG16-RIPE

 

[Jannes]

Thanks. Maybe it's a part of the wider problem with periodical unavailability of different websites that I'm observing for the last two days... I've read google and openai had outages this morning as well. Some websites I'm regularly visiting are down right now. Concerning.

yeah

https://twitter.com/x/status/1963586532129874307