Scam Alert - Beware of Sriram Gopalan

[Verysassyc]

Hello!!!

I've had a frustrating week...

Last week I sold my domain name on Sedo insurance.casino for $$$$ to Sriram Gopalan. He immediately wanted a receipt with my signature. (Red flags are going up.) I waited and waited and no payment...then I decided to do a name look up and I found my domain for sale on Dan.com with Sriram Gopalan listed as the owner.
I contacted Sedo and they said that his cc was rejected due to security reasons. They would try a wire transfer and then cancel the escrow.

I CONTACTED DAN.COM (See below)
Sriram Gopalan is selling insurance.casino on your site.

He bought the domain from me on Sedo over a week ago... but has yet to pay for it...so he should not be selling a domain name he does not own.
Their reply:

Thank you for notifying us.

Please grant a print screen of the domain residing in your registrars account and I will make sure to remove the domain for you.


What kind of security does DAN.COM use??? I guess anyone can sell a domain without verification??? Why am I on the hook to provide them with proof of ownership??? HEY DAN.COM - SHOULDN'T SRIRAM GOPALAM BE PROVING HIS OWNERSHIP OF THE DOMAIN???

PS Everyone...it is STILL UP FOR SALE!!!!

 

[DAN.COM]

@Verysassyc we're sorry to hear about your experience, however, I would kindly like to ask you to not engage in defamatory actions against us for no good reason. The title of this thread is extremely inaccurate and negatively impacts all DAN users.

We've spent quite some time on building a solution to prevent problems like the one you've faced and are on the verge of introducing a new domain verification system that will ensure to avoid us promoting outdated inventory.

Having said that, no automated verification system will prevent internet users from adding domains that they might not own. Our own domain: DAN.COM is offered weekly on all major marketplaces because a prankster thinks that's funny.

What's important to know is how we handle these cases. We have a zero-tolerance policy against sellers that add domains which they don't own and since the seller is never paid out before they deliver a domain, no fraud can ever be conducted by someone that lists domains which he or she doesn't own anymore.

 

[DAN.COM]

please remove the photo of Laszlo, he's a top guy and doesn't deserve to have his name/job/photo indexed with such accusations

We just observe this. Laszlo has assisted you @Verysassyc with respect. He has answered all your questions professionally before you created this post, please delete his image and name from this post.

 

[wwwweb]

Hello!!!

I've had a frustrating week...

Last week I sold my domain name on Sedo insurance.casino for $$$$ to Sriram Gopalan. He immediately wanted a receipt with my signature. (Red flags are going up.) I waited and waited and no payment...then I decided to do a name look up and I found my domain for sale on Dan.com with Sriram Gopalan listed as the owner.
I contacted Sedo and they said that his cc was rejected due to security reasons. They would try a wire transfer and then cancel the escrow.

I CONTACTED DAN.COM (See below)
Sriram Gopalan is selling insurance.casino on your site.

He bought the domain from me on Sedo over a week ago... but has yet to pay for it...so he should not be selling a domain name he does not own.
Their reply:

Thank you for notifying us.

Please grant a print screen of the domain residing in your registrars account and I will make sure to remove the domain for you.

Have a great day!
-

Laszlo from DAN.COM

What kind of security does DAN.COM use??? I guess anyone can sell a domain without verification??? Why am I on the hook to provide them with proof of ownership??? HEY DAN.COM - SHOULDN'T SRIRAM GOPALAM BE PROVING HIS OWNERSHIP OF THE DOMAIN???

PS Everyone...it is STILL UP FOR SALE!!!!

Just give them the screenshot showing you have ownership, case closed.

 

[Verysassyc]

I am super confused why people are defending this turkey...
He paid for the domain with a fake cc...and knows he has a domain for sale that doesn't belong to him.
From SEDO:
Our system recently flagged the payment due to security reasons. Unfortunately we had to refund the buyer´s credit card payment because the buyer has not sent us the verification documents that our credit card institute has requested.

We have created a new only wire payment request and asked the buyer to resend the payment as soon possible otherwise we have to cancel this transaction.

**I am going to state this one more time...for the last time...I am a good person/ I am a mom/and a teacher...I am letting others know what happened so that they are not taken advantaged of. This has nothing to do with me losing a sale on Sedo. I am fine with losing a sale...I am not fine with my domain being used without my permission this way.

 

[SirDrago]

That's fine...but I don't have to agree with their policy. I did give Dan.com evidence yesterday...and the domain is still up for sale. They told me it wasn't enough evidence. I gave them my Sedo transaction which shows everything. So despite this...they let him keep the domain up for sale...and told me to give them more evidence...which I have done so tonight.

You don't need to provide Dan with ANYTHING.
If the above domain name is sitting nice and cozy in your account you can tell Dan to go F themselves.
You have it listed at sedo which requires owners verification. Since no money was deposited in your bank the domain remains in your account.
So Dan and the fake owner can go fly a kite.
You are NOT responsible for providing proof of ownership to a venue you had/ have no association with.

 

[Hypersot]

Totally agree with you @Verysassyc

that domain shouldn't be up on sale without an ownership verification. HE should prove that he owns the domain and not you.

 

[LaszloSchenk]

Exactly thank you!!! Because they are lazy asses at Dan.com

Verysassyc,

To my surprise, I found a 4-page long thread on Namepros regarding a statement you have made which could have been solved within a matter of minutes.

It is easy to ramp on about this topic without providing a clear and factual picture. Please consider:
- we have our own verification methods at the moment of subscribing a domain
- the domain you are referring to was listed for sale by this particular seller in 2016
- we do not perform a continuous check of live ownership. If a domain expires the seller is responsible for removing the domain(s). Regardless, we are developing a live ownership verification ensuring this situation will not happen again
- the entire portfolio of this seller was listed in 2016 meaning it is likely part of the portfolio expired over time

Please bear in mind that we receive hundreds of inquiries on a daily basis. Amongst those inquiries we receive dozens of remarks stating a domain was stolen, illegally listed or not allowed to be listed for sale. In 90% of these cases, it involves a former owner who neglected to renew the domain and lost it through auction. You might understand that we cannot contact our sellers multiple times on a daily basis to verify these claims. If I was a seller on any platform I would not desire to be contacted regarding this frequently. However, we do not want to disregard your statement and ask you to send this print screen in order to get this resolved straight away.

It is unfortunate to see that something this simply resolves in such a large post with several unprofessional remarks. Regardless, our support will tend to your ticket this morning and make sure the domain gets removed as well as any other outdated listing of the seller.

Have a great weekend still,

 

[johnn]

People just make every problem BIG and waiting for the opportunity to attack others.
Everything can be solved in a peaceful manner without posting here.
Contact the company/registrar/organization first before posting some accusations:
- Godaddy stole my name
- xyz member is a scammer, etc......

KEEP YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE down and You Will Live Longer.

 

[Sutruk]

Having said that, no automated verification system will prevent internet users from adding domains that they might not own.

Try to list a domain you don't own at Sedo.com, and let me know if you have success.
Sedo.com, and even Godaddy.com, are using TXT DNS record validation to validate domain ownership (Godaddy for domains not registered with them). And they have been doing this kind of verification already from some time ago.

 

[Verysassyc]

Just give them the screenshot showing you have ownership, case closed.

Yes, my case will be closed...but as a good person...I would like to warn others so that they are aware that they may be buying a domain on www.dan that does not belong to the seller.

 

[Verysassyc]

Take it easy Incorrect listings do happen. This is life.
But, still -
innocent until proven guilty
- a good rule. So I'd also tag @Sedo , even though they do not visit the forum frequently.

There's just something so wonderful about a man telling a woman to not be emotional and to take it easy...

 

[Daniel Owens]

Biggest point you're missing....

Brokers sell domains that they do not own for others via their DAN account.

You do not need to be the registered owner to list.

I have domains listed in my portfolio that I do not own, at the request of the owners.

Why?

I get exposure to my portfolio that they wouldn't.

Unless there is an express agreement to broker a domain for someone via written contract it is wrong to list a domain for sale you don't own.

 

[griff]

please remove the photo of Laszlo, he's a top guy and doesn't deserve to have his name/job/photo indexed with such accusations

 

[tonyk2000]

Our own domain: DAN.COM is offered weekly on all major marketplaces

So, DAN should be the first to implement the following:
Require custom TXT record to be published in DNS in all relevant times, not only initially. Or, require the owner to use DAN dns servers. If the domain is no more using DAN dns servers, and there are no appropriate TXT records in 3rd party DNS, it should be instant;y removed from the markerplace. This would eliminate situations like the one we are discussing.
As for this thread - it contains a number of useful opinions on various subjects, so it might be good to edit it as appropriate - change the title, remove unnecesessary images etc. Not an easy task for the mods though...

 

[SirDrago]

He wasnt willing to.pay for it...he used a bad cc and hasnt responded to sedos request for wire payment...he wanted me to send him a receipt for the sale asap with my signature...which...like a dummy ...I sent...so he has that now.

NEVER give a receipt prior to funds hitting your bank account.

Keep a close eye on that domain as he might try to use that receipt to transfer out. (Make sure domain is locked) in your account.

 

[Verysassyc]

I am also not Ok with Dan.com's lack of verification.
Thank you!!!!

 

[tonyk2000]

I am super confused why people are defending this turkey

Not exactly defending. Not enough evidence. Removing incorrect listings of own domains from marketplaces or parking companies is such a routine daily job - so there is no space for emotions. Periodical checks, ownership conflicts, proofs of ownership, dns txt records etc. - it is all as common as monthly renewals. It may well be that there was something fishy with your sale. Maybe not. Only Sedo can find out. They should have no issues contacting DAN (and receiving a response) if indeed something too questionable happened - both marketplaces should be well known to each other. So, just tell Sedo all the things you know, and ask Dan to remove incorrect listing, sending them account screenshot if necessary...

 

[equity78]

I am replying to your quote"I get it...."
If that wasn't for me then I am sorry!!!

When someone here tags someone with @ it's so they come into the thread and answer the questions of the person who started the thread. If not they may not see it and not comment. Reza is @DAN.COM so he can come in and address your comments here.

 

[tonyk2000]

never tell a woman to chill or that she is being too emotional.

Words of wisdom. I wish I learned it when I was a child (as early as possible)

 

[karmaco]

You need to modify the thread title and not lump DAN with your supposed deadbeat buyer. DAN did nothing wrong and you are clearly taking it out on them.

 

[Mary Muse]

We can feel you. But I think you should at least remove the Dan Staff's photo. If you don't, that innocent guy will soon be indexed on Google with these tags, which isn't good for him.

Agreed. So many assumptions and too much misinformation.

This thread is toxic.

 

[SirDrago]

@Verysassyc
Having said that, no automated verification system will prevent internet users from adding domains that they might not own.

WRONG!

So, DAN should be the first to implement the following:
Require custom TXT record to be published in DNS in all relevant times, not only initially. Or, require the owner to use DAN dns servers. If the domain is no more using DAN dns servers, and there are no appropriate TXT records in 3rd party DNS, it should be instant;y removed from the markerplace. This would eliminate situations like the one we are discussing.

@DAN.COM
Spelled out for you in black and white.

 

[BrandEntrance.com]

Not exactly defending. Not enough evidence. Removing incorrect listings of own domains from marketplaces or parking companies is such a routine daily job - so there is no space for emotions. Periodical checks, ownership conflicts, proofs of ownership, dns txt records etc. - it is all as common as monthly renewals. It may well be that there was something fishy with your sale. Maybe not. Only Sedo can find out. They should have no issues contacting DAN (and receiving a response) if indeed something too questionable happened - both marketplaces should be well known to each other. So, just tell Sedo all the things you know, and ask Dan to remove incorrect listing, sending them account screenshot if necessary...

Are SquadHelp the only ones in the domain branch that have invested in automating these checks?

Simple CRON jobs that can be programmed in a short time..

 

[Verysassyc]

Totally agree with you @Verysassyc

that domain shouldn't be up on sale without an ownership verification. HE should prove that he owns the domain and not you.

Thank you so much!!! Big Hugs!!!