.tv Premium Names - What Chance Is There Of A Sale At ENOM?

[GoneWalkabout]

With the absolutely DIRE economic news coming out of almost every global nation and region in the past few months does anyone think this will translate into a reduction in the price of Premium names in our beloved .TV?

We've all heard rumours of the AUGUST SALE but it just didn't materialise.

I've seen ENOM have started discounting some names again on a one-to-one level but has anyone any info on whether a SALE is imminent or just pure make-believe?

I, for one, hit personally by massive currency exchange rate fluctuations, and aware that many end-users are not quite as financially strong as we might like them to be, have decided to hold back on purchasing a couple of premium names I was after, until the picture is more clear.

BUT, if there was a premium name sale, I think that would cause the necessary lift to this extension we've all been waiting for.

 

[StoneRoses]

With the absolutely DIRE economic news coming out of almost every global nation and region in the past few months does anyone think this will translate into a reduction in the price of Premium names in our beloved .TV?

We've all heard rumours of the AUGUST SALE but it just didn't materialise.

I've seen ENOM have started discounting some names again on a one-to-one level but has anyone any info on whether a SALE is imminent or just pure make-believe?

I, for one, hit personally by massive currency exchange rate fluctuations, and aware that many end-users are not quite as financially strong as we might like them to be, have decided to hold back on purchasing a couple of premium names I was after, until the picture is more clear.


BUT, if there was a premium name sale, I think that would cause the necessary lift to this extension we've all been waiting for.

I am not sure i know why you think the extension needs a lift Jim?, i think it is doing just fine, infact i am delighted with .TVs progress at this time.


However,lets just look at how attractive a so called discount on premums would be?

Lets take just one example of what has been happening,all the LLL.tvs that have been repriced from $500 per year to $5k per year.
A mind boggling increase of 1000%.

Just what kind of discount could or would they offer that would make you want to go out and buy one? even with the old Verisign 70% off deal you would still be paying $1500 per year. So now you are only paying 200% more than you were previously, what a deal that is!!!.

LLL.tvs is only one example and accounts for only a small % of the names whos premium has gone up,so whatever "deal" they come out with, i for one will not be having any part of it.

I am really not sure what DM are doing and quite frankly i do not care, i stopped worying about them ages ago.

I have my own plans and Enom/DM play no part in those plans,if they want to piss about trying to be clever and thinking they know best then good luck to them,.TV is here to stay with or without them.

BTW, i am aware Verisgin own .tv, but IMO ,it is DM who are responsible for the rise in premiums.

 

[jeffoverman]

I hope there is a discount soon as well. I missed the boat last year and don't own any as of yet but hopefully soon with a cheap yearly fee geo name. We shall see. Guess I am on the side and hopping for a code.

Economy does suck.

Agree with bob. .tv extenson continues to. Well

J

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I am not sure i know why you think the extension needs a lift Jim?, i think it is doing just fine, infact i am delighted with .TVs progress at this time.

I'll agree we are going down the runway at the required speed, but to get in the air properly we need the pilot (ENOM/Verisign) to pull the 'joystick' back a bit.

As we've been short-changed on the mass of promotion that was supposedly going to materialise, perhaps that little bit of lift would make ALL the difference to getting us where we want to be a bit quicker.

It could also have everything to do with the fact I want to buy a significant number of premium names!

 

[mckennaronnie]

I would like to see a massive premium sale and worldwide advertisement / marketing to try get the general public to buy more .tv's BUt neither will happen so there is little point discussing it. IMHO

Premium prices are rising not falling & as Bob says, even if there was a massive price cut on premiums then they would still be overpriced compared to a few months back.

Reagrds giving .tv a list
Things are going so well for .tv when you take a longterm view to it, i try and think of things over a 3,4 year period and the progress this extension has made is excellent. IMHO
We dont need anything major to boost this extension, just let things keep growing slowly & smoothly and i'll stay a happy boy. :D

I'm still gutted i didnt get Fight.tv, IF ONLY .tv's were worth much less like the good old days :hehe:

Ronnie

 

[smashfactory]

the old furniture store fake out? raise all the prices, then have a big "sale" ? bah ;-(

 

[TheBulldog]

here is my theory.....

Verisign sets the premium prices, then DM markets them and gets to set there own price not to be below verisign pricing but with no cap on the amount the DM can charge.

I personally believe that DM is raising prices to raise capital. For instance, LLL.tv's are set at $250 by verisign. whatever they are sold for on top of that, DM keeps. Much like how retail stores operate.

I know there are others that think Verisign might be behind the raise, but I just don't believe so. That is IMHO only.

 

[equity78]

Bob, one of the best posts here in a long time IMO,

Bulldog I agree it is Demand Media, Verisign is not marking up, MGM dropped last week a normal $500 Premium for LLL, it got marked up to $10,000. Demand Media is hoping for the ignorant buyer and would rather get someone who does not know or belong to NP to come to their site and say MGM.tv $10,000 ? OK we need the domain we are MultiGramMedia we will take it for $10,000.

I doubt but have no info, that you will see a sale. It looks the opposite way they are marking everything up.

 

[TheWatcher]

I missed one of my premium renewal and DM racked to $10K, BullS*** in my opinion.

 

[meeks]

I'd say Bulldog is on the money here as far as pricing goes, seems like they can charge whatever they can get away with and give Verisign their cut or % whatever that may be!

DM are after an IPO problem is the market is against them at the moment, so they need to show as much incoming as possible and whats easier than raising premiums and collecting the residual every year?
Every bit helps when your talking about a bottom line to present to potential shareholders.

.TV is IMO going along fine.... So DM will most likely raise the premiums until they find the market limits. Then they'll soften the prices when the IPO market turns and they look to float. That way they can sell "bargains" en mass,...... again my opinion!
thats what I'd do if I was them and had control over premiums.

Jimbo I dont think this extension need a lift, as others have said its going quite well right now, whether I'm saying the same thing in 2 years who knows, but, for now signs are good lets hope the growth continues.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I think I should not have said the word 'lift' in the original question. My PR skills seem to be switched to 'cr^p' this week.

Talk about waving a red flag!!!!

Sorrrrrry!

I GET the message - TV is alive and happy, enjoying its new found dominance and is doing rather well.

I still wish the premiums were lower though.

 

[mckennaronnie]

Even if Premiums were reduced by 90 - 95% i'm not too sure i would reg anything new. IMHO

To be honest at anytime in the future i would probably not consider reg'in or buying anything above a $500 premium but the $500 list if full of junk with the odd exception every few weeks.
I really dont like the practise of domains expiring with $xxx renewal and then suddenly being advertised at 10x that price, i think it makes horrible business sense and will slow down the stream of end users who are thinking of registering a premium .tv as the majority of the prices are awful high.

Maybe though it will make Quality Aftermarket .tv's with no premium renewal or lower premium renewals even more desirable to end users though which could be good new to those who stocked up a while back.

 

[equity78]

No Jimbo you make a valid point, premiums are now getting crazy. I always thought that $500 to $1000 fine, but these people raising premiums that were $500 to $10,000 because they are just trying to get lucky finding a newbie are just way off.

Its why investing in the .tv extension requires active management rather than passive management. You need to compare premium to non premium to undeveloped .com version. You need to look at is the keyword with channel at $25 better than paying $5000 for the keyword.tv. There is not one answer some will want the quality and others the value priced alternative.

 

[TheWatcher]

I'm developing .TV and trying to expand the business even in in-mature stage of .TV but the company behind .TV is holding me up due to ridiculous increase of premium .TV domains.

 

[cityforums.com]

I recommend you all re-read the T&C ...

there is no cap on how high premiums may go and the future may hold

some surprises to .tv holders. There's a reason why the top domainers

have not bitten into .tv

 

[equity78]

WHO SAID there was a cap, they can charge a million per year for any name they like. Everyone here knows that and most here could care less what top .com domainers are doing. If they did they would not be here and kissing Rick Schwartz ass at T.R.A.F.F.I.C instead.

 

[cityforums.com]

WHO SAID there was a cap, they can charge a million per year for any name they like. Everyone here knows that and most here could care less what top .com domainers are doing. If they did they would not be here and kissing Rick Schwartz ass at T.R.A.F.F.I.C instead.

Have you read the T&C ?

 

[equity78]

Sure Have

 

[cityforums.com]

Sure Have

You see what's happening with premiums now that .tv is not wide spread.

What do you think will happen to premiums the more .tv succeeds ?

Why haven't you put the T&C up as a sticky so people understand all the risks

with .TV?

 

[equity78]

These terms supercede any previous agreement you may have regarding your .TV domain registration. In addition to the terms set forth above, the following terms shall apply to registrants of .TV domain names. Premium .TV domains, shall be determined and designated Premium names by the Registry, and such Premium names are non-transferable to another registrar. Registration prices for Premium .TV domain names may vary. In addition, renewal prices for Premium .TV names may be different from the original registration price. Your premium name renewal fee will be no greater than your registration fee as long as all of the following occur 1) you renew the name, 2) VeriSign maintains its current .tv agreement with Tuvalu and 3) eNom maintains its current .tv agreement with VeriSign. eNom commits to not increase renewal fees above the registration fee for as long as the fees we pay do not increase. For .tv premium names that are not renewed (for names that are expired), eNom reserves the right to raise or lower the price of the registration fee before making it available for re-registration by someone else. The registration period for a .TV domain name is for one-year. Your registration of a domain name in the .TV top-level domain is subject to policies established or revised from time to time by the registry for such .TV domain name (".TV TLD Registry"), in its capacity as the registry for a .TV domain. The .TV's registry's current policies (".TV Registry Policies") are available for you to review at the registry web site. You agree to be bound by and comply with the applicable Registry Policies, including amendments and modifications thereto, with respect to your .TV domain Name registration. Such policies shall not alter the terms and conditions of this Agreement. To the extent there is a conflict between the Registry policies and the terms of this Agreement, the terms of this Service Agreement shall prevail. You agree that the .TV Registry has the right to enforce the .TV Registry Policies.