registrars PDM.COM is Expiring - Poll To See Which Service Will Catch It

[Expron]

In a few days PDM.COM will become released from the registry. Let's have fun and try to predict who will catch the name. Whoever is lucky to catch this name will have caught a nice name. If it goes to auction, the price will grab traction in the thousands. I predict $10K+.

It's a shame to see this name in pending delete. It is currently registered to: Pitt-DesMoines, Inc.which operated from 1892 - 2002. they built notable structures such as the gateway Arch in St. Louis MO & the forked columns for the World Trade center.

Let's see who will catch the name and who will take over this premium drop.

 

[JBubba]

This domain didn't go through the standard pre-release process for a very good reason: PDM.com did not expire.

If you view the history of this domain on something such as DomainTools, you will see that the previous expiration date was April 1st, 2015, yet the domain dropped on April 5th, 2015.

I have done extensive research into the expiration and deletion process of domains, and based upon my calculations, this domain would have to have been *manually* deleted on February 27th, 2015, in order for the domain to drop on April 5th (A domain drops on the 37th day after the delete command is sent in to Verisign).

I notice this from time to time on decent domains, but it's very rare for this to happen on a domain as valuable as a good LLL.com.

 

[Sheogorath]

Anything is possible in this industry

Due to the nature of public auction it is no longer bound to the Domaining industry(resellers).
Many End users may find this domain name and bid since it's a public auction.
I'm sure they are also advertising this auction besides the redirect from the domain.

Due to the nature of public auction on Dropcatch.com and to the fact most good domains are getting many backorders on their system, it is almost useless to backorder a domain there.
They also caught heads.net and others on this drop.
I used their system in the past but I may stop using their drop catching services soon.
Public auction is very bad to Domaining.

 

[Edward Smeu]

@JBubba If what you are stating is true and can be confirmed by others then..anything is possible in this industry.

@Sheogorath DropCatch.com is destroying the industry by allowing everyone to bid on their names and catching the best domains. Practically, they are selling to end-users. If everyone would have the same attitude and strategy then we would have no re-seller market. I honestly do not use them and will not do it as on the long run I believe we will all lose.

 

[Dave]

I remember seeing LLL.com domains on eBay back in the late 90's for a few dollars.. oh man.. I had no idea these three letter things would be worth so much in the future.

How about NNNN.com's which if memory serves me right were still selling for low $xxx only about 7 years ago. What a miss lol.

 

[tonecas]

NetworkSolutions is buggy, big-time. If people knew how insecure they are they would be running from networksolutions...

it is not the first time that they let a domain miss their own expiration cycle. mind you that this practice should be illegal. no registrar should be able to take a domain and auction it, unless under extenuating circumstances, which should be record in their bookkeeping for 3 years.

but lets move on.

PDM.com and GONO.com are just two examples of something gone wrong. in the case of PDM.com my guess is that someone tried to take control of the domain and the domain was put on-hold. the domain should have drop last year but was kept one more year at NetworkSolutions and the administrative contact email was changed to a previous employee who stated that he had no control over the domain name.

then it should be moved to NameJet for auction and easy profiteering but NS is so F#$ incompetent that they let the domain go to redemption period.

DropCatch MO is unfair because they are capitalizing on domainer's backorders to gauge the interest on a domain and then put it to sale on a public auction. but the action of catching the domain by itself is less unfair/ilegal/unethical than place a domain for sale after it has expired, something that is clearly in violation of ICANN rules to nobody's interest, including ICANN itself.

We, as a community, play along with this scam because we get domains that most people don't know how to by this way. But at the expense that these guys are making loads of money with almost no risk and one day they are going to compete with us in catching domains with these profits. In fact they are alreadina doing that, not to mention the portfolios that have been assembled by taking expired domains and not even sell them, wich is completely aggaints ICANN rules for years (for instance, tucows portfolio in yummynames).

back to NS f***ups, they have even move domains for auction at NameJet without warning (making private auctions with almost no bidders) so letting domains drop is no surprise.

 

[muttus]

DropCatch MO is unfair because they are capitalizing on domainer's backorders to gauge the interest on a domain and then put it to sale on a public auction. but the action of catching the domain by itself is less unfair/ilegal/unethical than place a domain for sale after it has expired, something that is clearly in violation of ICANN rules to nobody's interest, including ICANN itself.

We, as a community, play along with this scam because we get domains that most people don't know how to by this way. But at the expense that these guys are making loads of money with almost no risk and one day they are going to compete with us in catching domains with these profits. In fact they are alreadina doing that, not to mention the portfolios that have been assembled by taking expired domains and not even sell them, wich is completely aggaints ICANN rules for years (for instance, tucows portfolio in yummynames).

Interesting. If I understand correctly you are saying that they are catching domains for them self. I do understand that, we all do it, but of course the problem is they can beat us all if they decide due to their system. However my question is: Do they catch ordered domains without releasing them to person who ordered them? Or do they bid on caught domains to increase the value or to purchase them? There I would see real problem.

 

[tonecas]

DropCatch until now is catching domains and placing them on public auctions. They are not taking domains for themselves. DropCatch belongs to the Reberry Brothers who have been building a massive portfolio going for the drops in the last few years. This is fair game unless the part they are placing domains in public auctions when they should have limit them to bidders that have shown interest in them.

The other guys connected to registarrs are the ones profiting with no rights at all when they auction expired domains. Registrars cannot take domains without extenuating circumstances. ICANN rules are very clear in this matter.

 

[NPer]

How about NNNN.com's which if memory serves me right were still selling for low $xxx only about 7 years ago. What a miss lol.

In 2012 I saw NNNN.com selling in the $400-$700 range.

back to NS f***ups...

Take it easy on NS... he is no longer a member here. :D

 

[equity78]

DropCatch $30,470 closing price

 

[Jasonn]

DropCatch until now is catching domains and placing them on public auctions. They are not taking domains for themselves. DropCatch belongs to the Reberry Brothers who have been building a massive portfolio going for the drops in the last few years. This is fair game unless the part they are placing domains in public auctions when they should have limit them to bidders that have shown interest in them.

The other guys connected to registarrs are the ones profiting with no rights at all when they auction expired domains. Registrars cannot take domains without extenuating circumstances. ICANN rules are very clear in this matter.

they do keep domains for themselves, the only domains they won't go after are ones people have backordered at dropcatch...they catch plenty every day they keep for themselves.

 

[tonecas]

correct Jasonn, I was referring to domains with backorders that they place on auction and do not move to their private portfolio, at least for the domains I have been monitoring.

 

[Armageddon]

But if $30,470 was closing price for PDM how much will be get the new owner?

 

[Dave]

But if $30,470 was closing price for PDM how much will be get the new owner?

That must be end user already, it's beyond reseller price imo.

 

[Nazz]

Nothing seems to pass DropCatch without being caught.. Not really a fan, seeing if you backorder a domain and it heads off to auction which remains public for all people to participate.

Unfair.

 

[vicho]

Time tells everything....

 

[pchip]

That must be end user already, it's beyond reseller price imo.

So much competition now in getting good quality domains. Probably just a couple of domainers getting caught up in the bidding excitement that someone over paid IMO. The price doesn't shock me since even mediocre names go for higher than normal values.

Think about the type of names you could go after if you had 30k to drop. I certainly wouldn't be spending it on a random 3 letter domain, especially when there are active trademarks.

But hey, maybe it was an end user or if it was a domainer, they have a solid plan for it. That's the beauty of domain names, you never know how much someone is willing to pay.

 

[tonecas]

one of the active bidders was from the chinese backorder service jinmi.com
the winning bidder that was active since $10k I am not aware who he is.

DropCatch also adopted the lame decision of erasing past auction history. Doesn't bode well for their transparency.

 

[GoWeb]

Seems like the top bidder failed to pay up.

DropCatch.com started a reauction for PDM.com, now at $22,705

 

[Nazz]

What was the starting bidding price?

 

[GoWeb]

What was the starting bidding price?

That's the starting price. They probably removed bids upto the point from where the failed buyer shot them up sky high.