PARKED.COM - Official Thread!

[TOXX]

Hi,

Welcome to the OFFICIAL PARKED.COM thread!

 

[TOXX]

It is. Unfortunately, we can't all have "Candy.com" or something similar.
It's just a logical conclusion that after the fall of CTR, the QScore will go down the drain which in turn will prompt Yahoo to encourage Parked.com to pull the plug on domainers. It's a spiral effect that i'm not yet sure how to overcome. My CTR was stellar prior, now it's dead. ...confusion is settling in...

M.

Mike...Patience is Virtue!
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You KNOW Donny will not let us loyal Parked'ers perish! :tu:

 

[mrizos]

Mike...Patience is Virtue!
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You KNOW Donny will not let us loyal Parked'ers perish! :tu:

Yeah, I hope not. I love parked.com. It's really nice getting indexed by search engines (I'm adding custom content)...but my TQ will probably be far below par...I used to have a 10 as well.

My CTR went from about 62% to 20%...

 

[netmeg]

Uh, we all know we shouldn't lay it on Donny to somehow come up with something to remedy this, right? We're all responsible for our own business models, and if we chose to do arbitrage, we knew the risks going in (or should have). I don't *think* anyone is expecting him to ride in on a white horse, but I just wanted to make sure. He's stated several times that Parked doesn't do arbitrage, and arbitrageurs are only a small part of Parked's clientele. So it wouldn't do to have unreasonable expectations of him, when he already does so much.

 

[rickkumar]

Uh, we all know we shouldn't lay it on Donny to somehow come up with something to remedy this, right? We're all responsible for our own business models, and if we chose to do arbitrage, we knew the risks going in (or should have). I don't *think* anyone is expecting him to ride in on a white horse, but I just wanted to make sure. He's stated several times that Parked doesn't do arbitrage, and arbitrageurs are only a small part of Parked's clientele. So it wouldn't do to have unreasonable expectations of him, when he already does so much.

I would mostly agree, especially with the expectations part.

But I do see some accounts moving to other yahoo based providers if they still allow arb.

I didn't really do arb as I was just still learning for last couple of weeks.

But I do have accounts at hitfar, TZ, DotZup etc...almost everywhere even though I never used any of them.

If they keep allowing arb, then I may move couple of domains to utilize what I learned from many people here including you Netmeg. But I will wait for the dust to settle as I don't like to move around domains....very lazy
:hehe: I don't want to move and then find out that now they don't allow it either

 

[Donny]

For those of you who were doing arbitrage, I wish I had an answer or a solution for you, but I really don't. Yahoo told us that arbitrage had to stop immediately and it was supposed to effect all parking companies. At least as of now it seems we are the only parking company who has stopped aribtrage at this point even though I am being assured everyday that all of the others will follow suit. So I'm not 100% sure what is going on, I know what I'm being told, but that's it.

I will be at the Traffic show next week in Vegas, so I should hopefully get some good answers then.

Donny

 

[mrizos]

For those of you who were doing arbitrage, I wish I had an answer or a solution for you, but I really don't. Yahoo told us that arbitrage had to stop immediately and it was supposed to effect all parking companies. At least as of now it seems we are the only parking company who has stopped aribtrage at this point even though I am being assured everyday that all of the others will follow suit. So I'm not 100% sure what is going on, I know what I'm being told, but that's it.

I will be at the Traffic show next week in Vegas, so I should hopefully get some good answers then.

Donny

Wow man, it's too bad they singled you out like that (allegedly). I hope they give you some answers....why pick on such a great parking provider (if it's true)?

 

[rickkumar]

For those of you who were doing arbitrage, I wish I had an answer or a solution for you, but I really don't. Yahoo told us that arbitrage had to stop immediately and it was supposed to effect all parking companies. At least as of now it seems we are the only parking company who has stopped aribtrage at this point even though I am being assured everyday that all of the others will follow suit. So I'm not 100% sure what is going on, I know what I'm being told, but that's it.

I will be at the Traffic show next week in Vegas, so I should hopefully get some good answers then.

Donny

Donny,

You are a great help: always quick to respond, and upfront and honest in your answers. I just hope that if yahoo allows others to continue arb, then it should let parked do it too.

Thanks.

 

[TOXX]

Donny,

You are a great help: always quick to respond, and upfront and honest in your answers. I just hope that if yahoo allows others to continue arb, then it should let parked do it too.

Thanks.

I TOTALLY agree!
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If other companies will be allowed to arbitrage, then it would be ABSOLUTELY ridiculous for Parked not to arb.

 

[tonyfloyd]

I will be at the Traffic show next week in Vegas, so I should hopefully get some good answers then.

Donny

Don't go!!!...last time u went to a show and hoping to get answers.....u came back and a week later this Yahoo Arb news dropped like a bomb.....don't go Donny....afraid to see what bad news u bring back this time....lol....

U da Man!!

Tony

 

[cassidy36]

Donny,
As usual, thanks for being open and forthcoming with us.

Brian

 

[whitebark]

Do a search on google or yahoo for anything like - mortgage refinance, bad credit repair etc and look at the destination of sponsored links - over half still go to parked pages - including those who claim in their terms of service to disallow such traffic sources.

Something is rotten in Kansas.

 

[GILSAN]

Lets hope that whatever hapens in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas, unless offcourse its bad news. Bon voyage and good luck!

GIL

 

[mrizos]

Do a search on google or yahoo for anything like - mortgage refinance, bad credit repair etc and look at the destination of sponsored links - over half still go to parked pages - including those who claim in their terms of service to disallow such traffic sources.

Something is rotten in Kansas.

wow...i'm getting angry now.

 

[Avo19]

wow...i'm getting angry now.

Why get angry?
PPC traffic is a given with most parking outfits. It's just not acknowledged publicly for every Tom, Dick & Harry to see. Parked was the only one to do so.

 

[thebutler]

Just check the who.is

Why get angry?
PPC traffic is a given with most parking outfits. It's just not acknowledged publicly for every Tom, Dick & Harry to see. Parked was the only one to do so.

If you seeing some arb on parked names its pretty easy to figure out who's still doing it (which companies). Three easy steps.

Google your term of choice
Click the sponsored links
Who.is any parked domains result.

Donny you might want some ammo before going to Traffic to discuss.

Looks like some people are doing arb through Godaddy's parking service or the sites are very simple looking MFA sites (which is another story). I'm sure other people can spot some easily and maybe post in this thread so Donny can discuss the FACTS.

I never did any arb but obviously a fair playing field for everyone would be nice.

 

[Avo19]

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Donny you might want some ammo before going to Traffic to discuss.

Looks like some people are doing arb through Godaddy's parking service. I'm sure other people can spot some easily and maybe post in this thread so Donny can discuss the FACTS...

Donny would know more about the behind scenes "realities" that anyone of us could contribute. IMO there's a lot of smoke 'n mirrors....conduct your negotiation's in private, not on a forum.

 

[goodkarmaco]

No, parked is not the only one,

I reported in this thread a couple weeks ago that Trafficz just contacted all its members and insisted on a strict no arb and made mention that if they are getting the hammer then arb is not liked by the providers and why is everyone in Parked thinking it is ok? . Fab and Bodis does not allow it either.

Maybe it was a little too blatent here?

 

[hitchhiker]

No need to get all up in arms about this. Companies that can guarantee the quality of their traffic CAN arbitrage both yahoo and google feeds. - take smarter.com, business.com, shopping.com, geosigns.com etc just to start. There is no requirement that there is a level playing field for any given company versus another - much less an individual domainer. Frank and the rest of the top domainers with their own feeds all do some sort of arbitrage too (not even search but other mediums as well). They can do it cause they keep it under the radar, the work constantly with the feed providers to tweak the quality of their traffic. You dont see those guys on forums talking about it cause its something both yahoo and google want to keep in the "gray market" - and have the option of shutting anyone down at any given notice.

it simply spung out of control here a bit in the last 5 month from what I can see - I'm just as bummed out as anyone else . . .

 

[domainpark]

No need to get all up in arms about this. Companies that can guarantee the quality of their traffic CAN arbitrage both yahoo and google feeds. - take smarter.com, business.com, shopping.com, geosigns.com etc just to start. There is no requirement that there is a level playing field for any given company versus another - much less an individual domainer. Frank and the rest of the top domainers with their own feeds all do some sort of arbitrage too (not even search but other mediums as well). They can do it cause they keep it under the radar, the work constantly with the feed providers to tweak the quality of their traffic. You dont see those guys on forums talking about it cause its something both yahoo and google want to keep in the "gray market" - and have the option of shutting anyone down at any given notice.

it simply spung out of control here a bit in the last 5 month from what I can see - I'm just as bummed out as anyone else . . .

This is whats not fair to the everyday domainer. If saying that both google and yahoo allow ppc arbitrage to mainly the bigger players of domain parking and also search engines, where's the level field for the everyday domainer??

Well hopefully someone at yahoo and even google will wakeup one day and see that ppc style traffic to a parked domain is not as evil as some have made it and everone benefits.

The Advertiser (MORE CUSTOMERS)
The parking co's ( Extra Cash)
Google and or Yahoo ( Advertisers Spending Extra's)
Google and Yahoo Stock Holders ( Stocks Go Higher With Extra Cash Coming In)
The Avg Domainer ( Extra Cash From PPC Traffic)
THE ECONOMY (The avg domainer spending all that extra cash) "HAD TO THROW THIS IS THERE"

See arbitrage traffic saves the US economy :hehe:

Yahoo and Google WAKEUP!!!!

 

[hounddomain]

This is whats not fair to the everyday domainer. If saying that both google and yahoo allow ppc arbitrage to mainly the bigger players of domain parking and also search engines, where's the level field for the everyday domainer??

I don't think there would be many to disagree that a level playing field would be nice (including me). However, who says these companies have to create an equal market? I'm sure the large scale domainers would argue that the decision to have arb ignored for their accounts is a commercial business judgement based on volume, relationship value etc.

Don't get me wrong...I see the recent arb developments as a slap in the face to small and medium scale domainers, but complaining about the fairness of the industry is futile IMHO.

regards
Rob